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Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:13 am  |
| Where can I get protein without eating meat? I'm trying to cut back on red meat and chicken. |
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Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:23 am |
| Dairy product is a good source of protein. If you want to totally eliminate "animal product" then soy products and beans are the way to go. |
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Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:19 pm |
I've been a vegetarian for a number of years now and it's quite easy to find non-meat sources of protein.
I regularly include in my diet the following sources of protein: beans, nuts, eggs, cheese, leafy dark green vegetables, spirulina protein shakes, yogurt, nuts, whole grains and various soy products such as soy milk, tempeh, etc.
If it's only red meat and chicken that you are trying to cut back on try fish -- it's an excellent source of protein. |
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:52 pm |
| chimera...I second that! I have been a vege for 16 years. Beans,nuts,soy all good sorces...you really dont need tons of protein everyday. You can get more than enough by making sure you eat a balanced diet. A great book to read is called Garden Cuisine by Paul Wenner. |
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:00 pm |
I'm not a vegetarian by any means, but I thought I would ask a question anyways b/c I'm curious. Everytime I try to by these healthier products, I end up spending a fortune. Even veggies can get pretty expensive given their shelf life. So my question is, do you guys have to spend more money now as a vegetarian or do you have cheaper solutions to eating these healthy foods?
I'd like to incorporate more of these items into my daily meals but some of them, particuarly those with soy, can get so expensive. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place.  |
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:39 pm |
| I would say it is more expensive to eat vegetarian but I have really never known any other way... Veges do add up and I feel like I am constantly grocery shopping because I like fresh everything. I would suggest that you substitue beans for meat in your current meals. Or just omit the meat. There are also farming co-ops that you can split with people and get great (organic) fruits and vegies for not a lot of money. |
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:35 pm |
| Also nutritional yeast flakes are high in protein & a great substitute for cheese in recipes. Also mung beans ar every high in protein, well, as well as most all legumes & lentils. |
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:39 pm |
| Yes, I definitely find that it is a more expensive and time consuming lifestyle. And as Olivia said you end up going shopping a lot more often in order to have fresh produce. |
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:52 pm |
Hi! I am not a vegetarian (although I am not a big fan of meat) But I know that when I am spending $$ on more organic veggies and fruit I get don't get sick as much (colds, etc) and I think I save money on doctor bills and supplements, so depending on how I rationalize it, it seems like I'm saving money. Then I spend anything xtra on skincare! 
I find that buying grains and beans in bulk is much cheaper. |
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:43 pm |
| Cottage cheese is a source of very high protein. Word of caution though in regards to meat. I wouldn't totally cut out meat eating; you could CUT DOWN on portion size but don't take it out of your diet. Animal protein are the building blocks of the human body. |
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:52 pm |
- mushrooms! (I can always remember an ad with the copy "Mushrooms - meat for vegetarians" )
- tofu (just toss cubes in the pan with veges and stir fry with a yummy sauce)
- try eating one serve of red meat once a week rather than cutting out.
- don't add too much fish (unless you know the source and know it is mercury free - ie. go for fish farm fish)
- if you are worried about not having enough protein, try a home-made protein shake once or twice a week
if you are cutting back on meats, what will you be changing them for? Replace those meats with lots of veges and if adding carbohydrates make sure they are complex (brown rice, wholewheat breads etc.)
I am getting hungry |
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Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:59 am |
[quote="SusieQ"]Cottage cheese is a source of very high protein. Word of caution though in regards to meat. I wouldn't totally cut out meat eating; you could CUT DOWN on portion size but don't take it out of your diet. Animal protein are the building blocks of the human body.[/quote]
Not true, there is nothing in meat that you can't get elsewhere. |
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Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:53 pm |
B12 is only high in ruminant meat. Recent studies that address meat show that the bad effects from meat come from particular types; things with high fat that have been cooked at high T, smoked meats and most processed meat (like bologna). Ingestion of meat with a meal decreases blood sugar spikes and increases abosrption of iron and some other nutrients.
Meat eaters live longer than vegetarians. The oft quoted 7th day ADventists data is misinterpreted as they do not drink, smoke and get plenty of exercise. If you disregard the exercise and compare lifespan against Americans who only drink a little bit and never smoked the advantage is to the meat eaters and it is huge (around 2.5 years). The meat eaters had more coronary disease but the vegetarians had more stroke and cancer possibly because of high Omega 6 intake on fat profiles.
The reason to be a vegetarian is that you do not want to harm animals a worthy enough goal in itself. If that is not your agenda then eating lots of green leafy things, high fiber carbs, and a wide variety of protein sources including meat is most healthful. Soy comes in many forms I like the soft gushy forms especially in hot soups but all of the tempeh burger type things taste foul to me (and I've tasted many brand as sis is a vegan). Mushrooms have about 15% protein. You don't eat much weight so it isn't a bulk source. They are good for you though moderate consumption does help your immune function. |
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:24 pm |
If you are worried about b12 consumption, you can find it naturally in whole grains, soy products, dairy products and eggs (among others) . . . or if you are like me you can take a b12 or b-complex supplement and it does the trick!  |
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:28 pm |
Sharky -- do you mind posting the sources where you read that vegetarians have shorter lifespans than meat-eaters? Because this contradicts most of the studies I have read, and I would like to see where you are getting your information.
At any rate, if you are intent on becoming vegetarian I wouldn't be deterred by a study or two, they always seem to be changing their minds!!  |
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:46 pm |
I forgot 2 other soy products that
I eat frequently.
Edamame are really good tasting green soy beans. They are given as an appetizer in Japanese restaurants. My dd loves them as snacks and I put them in salads.
Also there is a product called Soy Nutlettes (available on the WEB and at Whole Foods grocery stores) that I eat several times per week. I use it mixed with cereals or on toppings of desserts. It tastes and has the texture of Grape Nuts |
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:42 pm |
| I'm sorry Eve, but I disagree with you. Plants have a different form of iron from meat and is not absorbed as readily by the body. It is also not sufficient to take an iron pill or to eat a lentil burger. Vegetarians need to eat A LOT of foods rich in iron. You will find out quickly how you feel by not including SOME meat in your diet. |
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Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:33 pm |
| To each her own, I guess...I've never felt better since switching to a vegetarian diet! I find it's a lot easier to eat better too, since you can't just grab a burger for dinner. |
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:45 am |
| chimera wrote: |
Sharky -- do you mind posting the sources where you read that vegetarians have shorter lifespans than meat-eaters? Because this contradicts most of the studies I have read, and I would like to see where you are getting your information.
At any rate, if you are intent on becoming vegetarian I wouldn't be deterred by a study or two, they always seem to be changing their minds!! |
most of the stuff I've read says that to, but that is based on a healthy vege diet containing more fresh fruit and vegetables, there's plenty of crappy vegetarian foods and people who live off chips. |
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:46 am |
| SusieQ wrote: |
| I'm sorry Eve, but I disagree with you. Plants have a different form of iron from meat and is not absorbed as readily by the body. It is also not sufficient to take an iron pill or to eat a lentil burger. Vegetarians need to eat A LOT of foods rich in iron. You will find out quickly how you feel by not including SOME meat in your diet. |
I'm not saying it's the same, that's crazy, I suggest anyone who stops eating meat read up on nutrition. All it takes is a little bit of thought. |
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:53 pm |
| I totally agree, Eve. I've been a vegetarian for the last 4 years. It DOES take more effort and thought, but with enough work you can get all of the vitamins, minerals and nutrients you need. I agree that there is NOTHING in meat that you can't find elsewhere; it just takes a little work! |
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Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:43 pm |
I have been a vegetarian for 21 years (I am now 34). I am not sure where you are located but there are so many good protein options for non-meat eaters...way more than there were 20 years ago. Here are some ideas for meals that are quick and easy. If you are located in the US, of the soy products, I would recommend Morningstar Farms. Even my non-vegetarian friends eat their "sausage" links/patties -- best made with a George Foreman grill. I would also try the chicken nuggets and anything else that looks interesting. I eat a lot of beans --- love Mexican food so often make my own burritos. Peanut butter (and jelly) is always an option (maybe not if you are not American as my non-American friends don't seem to like it much). All the new soy crisps that are out now are great (come in cheddar, barbeque, etc... flavors). Silk soy milk is quite popular. There is so much stuff.
I disagree with anyone who says that you need meat in your diet....especially now with all the soy products, you can eat very well. |
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