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Nasolabial lines and other horrific creases
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:34 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Has anyone found a product that decreases the appearance of nasolabial lines that's not an injectable? Maybe there's something out there that will plump up the skin to make them less prominent (even if it's just for a matter of hours...I'll take what I can get LOL)? I'm getting creases (I call them "pre-wrinkles") under the eye area and around the mouth, and in the wrong lighting I look like a marionette. Laughing
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Uh,oh. Sunscreen (LaRochePosay line) used on a daily basis will prevent premature aging if you feel this is what is happening. C serums (Vivier, J&B, Cellular Skin Rx) and Retin-A both work to thicken your skin so if these lines are fine (nothing too deep), regular long-term use of both (Retin-A at night, C and sunscreen each morning)will reduce these quite a bit.

For temporary relief, I'd think about using a wrinkle relaxer like Relax Plus with Vialox, that helps to stop the muscles that cause the lines from being able to contract as intensely as usual, thus the lines won't continually be reinforced.

Of course, lots of water and a good moisturizer will help keep your skin plump in general but probably will not have much effect on lines that are being caused by muscle movement or sun damage as opposed to simple dehydration.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:32 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Hi,
I know you didn't want to hear about injectables, but they can work very well in the hands of a qualified doctor. Topicals can only do so much.
HTH-Laura
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:12 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Not too long ago, Winnie found this stuff called DermaFreeze 365 at her local drugstore - may have been CVS or Rite Aid; I know it is also carried by www.drugstore.com.

It isn't a miracle worker, but it an IS effective topical. It has the effect of relaxing the muscles or nerves (not sure which, to be honest, but I'm pretty sure it is the muscles), plus it seems to also act like some kind of filler.

I don't really have nasolabial lines, except after a night of really hard partying. When that occurs, this stuff is great! My older sister, who is beginning to get those lines, and who also was a sun goddess in her youth, and hence has a few skin problems now, absolutely adores the stuff. You can't beat it for the price.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:15 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Hi karmicarchitect - Have you ever used any retinoid products? I think betterat40 gave you some great advice. While she can tolerate prescription retinoids, I can't, but I've been using SkinCeuticals .5% Retinol, and it can really help firm the skin as well as diminish the prominence of lines. I can only use it a couple of times a week, but I couldn't live without it. I alternate with IS Clinical Firming Cream and sometimes SC Intense Line Defense, which has 15% AHA. I also occasionally use a pumpkin peel or lactic acid peel.

Also, I use JB ADCE and DermaExcel7 (on top of JB Mineral Skin Prep) when I want to look my best. On top of this, I use Smashbox Photo Finish primer, which is silicone-based. It has a mattifying effect, facilitates makeup application, and at the same time obscures the look of fine lines. Also for lines, you could try Prescriptives Magic Invisible Line Smoother, which is another silicone product that acts like spackle.

I just came home from a Christmas party, and after using all of this stuff, no one can believe I'm 53. I never wear foundation, but prefer to use products that refine and clarify my skin texture. I only use a bit of concealer here and there, some cream blush, eyeshadow and liner (on occasion), and lip color. Tonight, I also wore my new MAC #4 false eyelashes -- just love 'em!!! They're very glamorous.

DermaFreeze 365 sounds intriguing -- I'll have to try it after I use up my JB products. The cost of all of these items can amount to a small (my husband would say large) fortune though Crying or Very sad

BTW, just as betterat40 suggested, it's very important to use a good sunscreen -- this should be Rule Number One. I wouldn't dare go outdoors in the daytime without it: LRP Fluide Extreme (when not wearing makeup) or Avene Creme (winter) or Spray (summer), on top of SC CE Ferulic. This forum has enlightened me about quite a few great products that've really helped the look of my skin. Almost everything I've mentioned I've only used since checking out this site -- thank you EDS!!!

Of course, some days are better than others -- especially darker ones Laughing
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Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:01 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing @ spackle !!!

Buttt, it's true !
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Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:55 pm Reply with quoteQuote
I agree with the relax plus violox. It's worked great for me. www.new-raves.com is where I get mine from.
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Thanks for all of the suggestions. I've been using Retin-A, glycolic peels, and a vitamin C/Matrixyl/DMAE serum (not all at once, of course Wink . I'll have to give the temporary "freezing" products for a try.

I'm afraid getting injectables is out of my budget.

I'm paying my karmic dues for having smoked and (gasp) visited a tanning bed in my misspent youth Rolling Eyes
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