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Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:38 pm  |
I've heard from a few skincare professionals that using sunscreen every day is not necessarily a good idea because of the chemicals that you're taking into your skin on a long-term basis.
The more I think about this, the more it makes sense to me.
Does anyone else ever consider that while sunscreen may be good when you're in the sun a lot, over the long term you may be doing more damage to the skin on your face by slathering chemicals all over it?
I wouldn't be surprised if 20 years from now, they discover that women who were "addicted to sunscreen" and avoided the sun ended up with unhealthy skin (and maybe, ironically, more damage to the skin from the chemicals).
what do others think? I'd just like to point out that it's practically the norm that every 30 or 40 years, the conventional thoughts about what's "right" for skin changes, and no doubt what we say is the thing to do now will change in the future. |
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:18 pm |
| I agree about your skin soaking up all the chemicals, I only wear sunscreen in the summer when I really need to. Jane Iredale and other mineral make-up bases provide natuaral protection against the sun. |
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oily/acne prone - acne scars on chin area/Large Pores in winter. Oily in Summer. Fair, nuetral/cool complexion, burn easily. Early 20s |
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:21 pm |
| I tend to agree. I use a physical/mineral only sunscreen. I use the Skinceuticals one with zinc and titanium dioxide spf 30 in the summer but still do not suntan and I do wear a hat. For the rest of the year I've started to wear Eucurin zinc only mineral sunscreen spf 20 but previous to this year I didn't wear any sunscreen. |
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Mualani
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:03 pm |
| Why single out sunscreens? You could apply the same argument to every single skin care product out there from peels to moisturizers since they all contain chemicals. Just wondering... |
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:20 pm |
| I agree too, I only use all-natural products. If you are interested in chemical-free sunscreen take a look at Dr. Hauschka, they have a natural line. |
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:07 pm |
| I agree as well. I would hate to think the results of not ever wearing sunscreen versus wearing it all the time. Exposed skin needs the protection. |
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:00 am |
after a 2 week holiday in the mediterranean, smothering me, my daughter and man with sunscreen the skin on the palms of my hands felt strange - weird in a way I can't really explain. It put me off over-use of sunscreen anyway...
...it wasn't the expensive stuff, just regular over the counter from the chemists...
Some danish "sun exposure expert" showed on tv just how much sunscreen you need to use to get the protection the bottle says - and I kid you not - this man had big hands and he had a cupped handful, more than half a regular bottle per person 2-3 times a day if on the beach in bikini...
I say - yuck |
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Location: Denmark. Me = 32, think I'm combo without oiliness + sometimes sensitive. Have noticed that skin doesn't heal as quickly anymore and I've developed fine lines around my eyes... Hormonal breakouts which are sometimes cystic. PCOS |
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:40 am |
Mualani has a really good point-- most cosmetics and things you put on your face also have chemicals. I was just thinking of sunscreen because you wear it (or some people wear it) every day, you put a lot of it on, and I believe that it has more chemicals in it than moisturizer, for example.
I think that even a physical sunblock also has a bunch of chemicals in it, doesn't it? (I may be wrong, I don't really know.)
Also-- do mineral makeup and mineral sunscreens really protect your skin? I hadn't heard about that.
Thanks in advance for any info. |
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ksm619
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:27 am |
| I think your risk of skin cancer long term is much greater if you do not wear sunscreen. My father died of melanoma, and he was not even in the sun often. I have very fair skin and need the sun protection at all times. I just buy foundation and lotions that contain sunscreen in them and wear them all year round. I also put sunscreen on anytime I go outside and do not hesitate to use it on my daughter as well. |
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:26 pm |
| I think the point is that chemical sunscreens contain ACTIVE ingredients..and sometimes when a sunscreen isn't made correctly and someone exposes themselves to the sunlight, it causes free-radicals, hence it makes the aging process go even faster if someone continues using the same sunscreen than if let's say they just try to stay out of long sun exposure. The sun is something that cannot be completely avoided, obviously. When you go by the window you are exposing yourself to the rays. When you sleep in and the sun is shining in your room, you are exposing yourself to them. Yes chemicals are in anything, even the foods we eat, but the concept is that using good judgement and the best solution is the way to approach it. I myself stick to mineral sunscreens when it's much needed, but a hat is always my number one friend. |
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Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:51 am |
| I worry about this alot. Have been searching for the perfect physical ss, have just ordered the skinceuticals physical, with high hopes! |
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Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:26 am |
for those who do belive in sunscreen, i think it's important to know how long it lasts for, which is usually 2 hours min. so if your putting it one before going to work, by the time you're off for lunch it's ineffective, so you might as well not bother.
I strongly belive in sunscreen, i've seen to many sun spots cut out both on sun exposed areas, and non sunexposed areas |
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Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:02 am |
| Do the physical sunscreens last any longer on the skin than the chemical? Or does the 2 hour rule still apply? |
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Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:41 am |
| I've continued using Skinceuticals physical sunscreen SPF 30 and though some complain of its white cast, i've had compliments of how I look like a porcelain doll (though I also get that without the sunscreen on). It doesn't leave rashes on my skin, and last summer I didn't even get burned once. This is actually about my 5th year without a sunburn, but that's because my dad got skincancer a few years back and it's very important I am cautious with my skin, as I am ghostly white like him. I think sunscreens have to do with the SPF number, and theres a PPD rating (persistent pigment darkening), which deals with the UVA rays and darkening of the skin. While some argue the chemical suncreens (that is, active sunscreen agents that happen to be chemicals) can be more efficient at protecting the skin, they can also do more damage to the skin if using a product that has a mixture of sunscreens that aren't strong in protection. I learned this in the summer with avobenzone and had horrible rashes which burned my skin probably worse than if i had nothing on at all. This is why I am afraid of trying new chemical sunscreens and stick to mineral sunscreens. |
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Extremely fair/sensitive skin(mild rosacea)that burns very easy.acne is rare/skin is dry.27 years old. |
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Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:43 am |
snowymtn,
with physical sunscreens, the intention is that they provide a real, literal physical barrier made up of the titanium or zinc on the surface of the skin which blocks out uva+b rays. that is why they usually feel heavy (ie. don't absorb) as they don't soak into the skin as chemical sunscreens do. chemical sunscreens must soak into the skin to be effective. chemical sunscreens typically become ineffective over a relatively short amount of time and must be reapplied because those chemicals start to degrade (i don't know if that's the right word to use, but that's how i would describe it) once they are exposed to the very uva+b rays they are protecting you from!
as long as a layer of physical sunscreen is not washed or wiped off, it should be protecting your skin.
another thing, physical sunscreens will start to protect you as soon as they are applied, whereas physical sunscreens require that they be applied typically 15-30 minutes before exposure.
lamicuz. |
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Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:29 pm |
Could not have said that better myself.
But how many people reapply their sunscreen every 2 hours? Especially us women who enjoy our makeup...that would be a huge effort. Plus there are so many chemical sun protectors out there and not all of them are very good at protecting, as well as the fact some of them lose their protecting agents when put with any kind of oxides (Mineral makeups, and many traditional liquid foundations.)
What a bummer. |
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Extremely fair/sensitive skin(mild rosacea)that burns very easy.acne is rare/skin is dry.27 years old. |
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Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:22 pm |
| thank you both for the information. It's peaked my interest in physical sunscreens even more. We try so hard to proctect ourselves, and use antioxidant serums and the like to reduce free radicals from damaging our skin, go to extreme and often illegal lengths to purchase european sunscreens. How ironic it is perhaps that #1 we are not proctecting ourselves because we wear a makeup or product that degrades the sunscreen, and 2, that we are not protecting ourselves because we do not reapply often enough or don't want to reapply over makeup. Not to mention that possibly? free radicals could be appearing due to this degredation. I'm just looking for a basic solution in this complicated skin care world. |
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Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:42 pm |
| yes, yes I would agree.simplicity is a lovely thing. |
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Extremely fair/sensitive skin(mild rosacea)that burns very easy.acne is rare/skin is dry.27 years old. |
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