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Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:00 pm  |
I heard many good reviews about zinc supplement here so I decided to try it myself. I saw the label on the zinc supplement saying that some are derived from Sulphate and some are from Gluconate..... So which one is better? And are they the same? Anyway, if anyone knows the difference, pls let me know, thanks!  |
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:36 am |
This got me wondering too : , I found this article:
"Zinc gluconate and zinc sulphate as dietary zinc sources for Atlantic salmon
Amund Maage, Kaare Julshamn & Gerd Eikeland Berge
Different chemical forms of essential minerals and trace elements supplemented to feed may show different bioavailability in fish. The present experiment was performed to compare an organic zinc form (Zn-gluconate) with zinc sulphate as dietary zinc sources for Atlantic salmon. Triplicate groups of fish were fed commercial fish meal based diets supplemented with either a low zinc level (50 mg Zn kg-1) or medium zinc level (180 mg Zn kg-1) as zinc gluconate or zinc sulphate for 6 months. Growth, mortality and feed conversion were recorded through the experiment. Fish were sampled initially and every month for zinc status analyses measured as whole-body zinc concentration. After 4 and 6 months, vertebral zinc concentration was measured and serum zinc was analysed at the end of the experiment. There were no differences in growth or mortality during the experiment. The results showed a significant effect of dietary zinc supplementation level on zinc status in fish for both zinc forms. However, there were no differences in zinc status between groups given different zinc forms. In conclusion, the present experiment showed that zinc sulphate and zinc gluconate are equally efficient as zinc supplements in salmon feeds within the concentrations normally found in salmon feed."
I will try to find what is the actual difference, it must be somewhere. |
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oily/acne prone - acne scars on chin area/Large Pores in winter. Oily in Summer. Fair, nuetral/cool complexion, burn easily. Early 20s |
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:54 pm |
| Thanks Rosebud for the article^^ If the article stated that there is no difference in the two different zinc forms (gluconate and sulphate), then I guess it doesn't matter which one to take? I'm starting to take the Sulphate Zinc form (23.6 mg) cuz it's a bit cheaper...I'll see if it's gonna make a difference in my skin or not. |
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:13 pm |
If this is for acne, In the 5th edition of Nutritional Almanac it says for Acne take "Zinc - 30 mg two or three times daily for several months, reduce to once daily, has been found to be as effective as oral antibiotics; use a more absorbable form such as gluconate for maximum effectiveness."
Hope this helps. |
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:12 pm |
| Thanks Cloe! This is for acne but mine is very mild and it's more due to hormonal breakouts. Do you think zinc supplement will work the same too? |
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:07 pm |
| Cloe if it's possible would you be able to give me further details of that Nutritional Almanac book, the cat was sick all over my only nuitrition book and I have been meaning to look for a replacement. |
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oily/acne prone - acne scars on chin area/Large Pores in winter. Oily in Summer. Fair, nuetral/cool complexion, burn easily. Early 20s |
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:44 pm |
Stardustdy- I can't say for sure but I do think it's a strong possibility that it will help you. Since it's just a vitamin, it can't hurt unless you take too much. In the book it says not to take more than 100 mg. daily.
You don't have anything to lose by trying it and in doing so you'll boost your immune system and fight against free radicals too.
Rosebud- the copy I have is Nutrition Almanac 5th edition by Lavon J. Dunne Copyright 2002
ISBN 0-07-137338-1
There may be a more current copy available
This book is great because it is food based even though it also recommends herbs, aromatherapy, homeopathy, etc. for specific ailments. One of the things I really like about it is, it has a large section that lists all whole foods and gives an analysis of their nutrients (how many cal., prot., carbs., vitamins, minerals, etc.)
I also like Healthy Healing by Linda G. Rector-Page, N.D., Ph.D. and Prescription for Nutritional Healing by James F. Balch, M.D. and Phyllis A. Balch, C.N.C.
If you'd like more info just let me know. |
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:01 pm |
Just curious if you tried any of those acne treatments. Especially this one http://acneyoda.com/a/buy_now.php which is at the bottom of this page http://www.natural-acne-treatments.com/index.html
I'm always so leary of a such a hard sell. It just sounds way too good to be true. 
I'd love to hear from someone who bought and used this. If it really works, there would be a lot of very happy EDS members. |
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Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:43 am |
Keep in mind this:
Zinc blocks the absorption and enhances the excretion of copper when taken over time. So, when zinc is recommended long term (over many months) for any condition--from arthritis to prostate problems or even Alzheimer's--it's important to get some copper as well. A combination product will help prevent a copper deficiency and the anemia that can develop as a result.
As a rule of thumb, every 30 mg of zinc needs to be balanced by 2 mg of copper. Interestingly, high-quality zinc products will automatically provide the extra copper.
I'm male and I often take zinc supplements for general health and this is the product I use (1 or 2 caps):
http://www.aor.ca/products/zinc-copper_balance.php |
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Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:05 am |
Cloe thankyou 
I'm going to have a look on Amazon, this one may be worth investing in |
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Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:49 pm |
| Rosebud, you're welcome. Happy to help |
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:55 pm |
Is 20mg still effective for the skin? I looked in about 6 shops today and 20mg was the highest I could find! I could only find 1 zinc gluconate too,they must be hard to come by in Australia.
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Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:01 pm |
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| Is 20mg still effective for the skin? I looked in about 6 shops today and 20mg was the highest I could find! |
Carolb69,
You could take 20 mg. 3 or 4 times a day. Just don't go over 100 mg. and you should be fine. The one I have is 15 mg.
I think it's better to have the lower dose and spread it out over the day so it stays in your body and gives you the maximum effect. Remember, stress depletes the vitamins in your body at a much faster rate. So if you take it throughout the day it would be better. HTH |
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Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:42 am |
I couldnt find a supplement that incudes copper in it,I'm a bit worried about getting a copper deficiency and my multi dosent have much copper in it.
Does anyone know of a zinc-copper formula that I can purchase?
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Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:31 pm |
| You could look at Swanson's catalog for a supplement that supplies both zinc and copper plus other essential minerals, and yes, copper and zinc need to be balanced, as mentioned, so I would say that if you can't find a combo of both, you can pick up a copper supplement on its own to take, but remember that all vitamins and minerals, etc. work synergistically, so in order to really get the benefit of any supplement, you need to take them all. Vitamin A also helps as well as fish oils and essential oils for the skin. |
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