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Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:29 am  |
| wenrow wrote: |
| Bira wrote: |
| Lowbrowscientist wrote: |
Hey Songbird,
I can't argue with irritation, I've had some of that myself, but no one should be getting eye color changes with RapidLash.
The eye color changes only happened with the Lumigan, and that was with people who were using it daily, placing it directly in the eye as an eyedrop to treat glaucoma. My eye doctor told me the color change happened to less than one percent of glaucoma patients. And not everyone gets the irritation, either, but alas, I was not so lucky  |
I heard that the eye color change will turn your eyes brown, so if you already have brown eyes, does it make your brown color darker? |
Still Rapidlash has none of those perm side effects. My lids are getting better actually. |
So what exactly is in Rapidlash? I was interested in it because I'm terrified of the side effects of Lumigan, but now I hear this product also has a prostaglandin (see the Lumigan thread). How does it not have the same risk of permanent side effects that Lumigan has? And how can it be OTC if it has prostaglandin (or am I misunderstanding something here)?
I actually already ordered some of this because, after reading this thread, I thought it seemed like an effective and safer alternative. (The pictures earlier in this thread are amazing!) But I really don't want to risk iris and eyelid changes in the pursuit of long eyelashes. I'd also be incredibly annoyed if my eyelashes started to shed rapidly or grow in weird directions. |
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Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:08 am |
| Flossie30 wrote: |
So what exactly is in Rapidlash? I was interested in it because I'm terrified of the side effects of Lumigan, but now I hear this product also has a prostaglandin (see the Lumigan thread). How does it not have the same risk of permanent side effects that Lumigan has? And how can it be OTC if it has prostaglandin (or am I misunderstanding something here)? |
First of all, you should probably run these concerns past an eye doc if they're really bothering you. Also, I could be mistaken, but i was under the impression that Lumigan uses an actual synthetic prostaglandin, as opposed to RL, which uses a prostaglandin *analogue* (big difference). But, I might be wrong about that.
My eye doctor OK'd my Lumigan use, and said that the risk of eye color change is VERY low, even among those placing the stuff right in their eye as a glaucoma treatment. He also said that eye color changes are gradual and start right around the very center of the iris, so just be observant and watch for changes. If you notice darkening, just stop using the product. (Of course, he did say that any problems should be reported right away and I should discontinue use if necessary, and come in for a checkup, but I'd have done that anyway.)
Btw, all of the above was specifically regarding Lumigan, which is in a very watery base (because, you know, it's an eyedrop). The Rapid Lash is a gel, and if you're careful you can avoid getting it into your eyes in the first place. That way, you will have no problems at all related to eye color change and vision. On the other hand, Rapid Lash can and does cause lid darkening and irritation for some people. It may dissipate over time, but it may not (it hasn't for me  ). So, the lid darkening may very well may be a permanent side effect -- the jury is still out on that issue.
Personally, unless I see some miracles taking place, I'll be going back to Lumigan when my tube of Rapid Lash is used up. I had a lot less trouble with Lumigan, and it's a lot more affordable. |
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Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:04 pm |
Hi, just a really quick update, I decided to discontinue using RapidLash because ofthe raccoon eyes I've been experiencing and have been contributing to the sunscreen. Since I am not certain what's really causing it, I have now stopped using retin-a, and rapidlash until condition improves. (Crossing fingers and toes that it will)
The reason I thought to discontinue use of rapidlash is because I read the lumigan thread where a doctor was saying that you can get darkened skin under the eyes, and hair growth on cheeks from using prostaglandins. I'm sure it's a small percentage where people suffer the side effects, but I did observe I can see darkened hair on my cheeks now, which I never saw before. It was enough to bother me and I started to plug some off with tweezers. So I'm hoping that by stopping RL, the hair growth will stop, too.
On the other front, my lashes did grow long. However due to the before being really short, the after is not that impressive to the naked eyes. To my eyes though, I think it's probably close to double the normal length.
I'm also hoping with discontinued use, the dry eye problem will get a little better. |
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Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:45 pm |
| Bira wrote: |
Hi, just a really quick update, I decided to discontinue using RapidLash because ofthe raccoon eyes I've been experiencing and have been contributing to the sunscreen. Since I am not certain what's really causing it, I have now stopped using retin-a, and rapidlash until condition improves. (Crossing fingers and toes that it will)
The reason I thought to discontinue use of rapidlash is because I read the lumigan thread where a doctor was saying that you can get darkened skin under the eyes, and hair growth on cheeks from using prostaglandins. I'm sure it's a small percentage where people suffer the side effects, but I did observe I can see darkened hair on my cheeks now, which I never saw before. It was enough to bother me and I started to plug some off with tweezers. So I'm hoping that by stopping RL, the hair growth will stop, too.
On the other front, my lashes did grow long. However due to the before being really short, the after is not that impressive to the naked eyes. To my eyes though, I think it's probably close to double the normal length.
I'm also hoping with discontinued use, the dry eye problem will get a little better. |
Bira, good luck - I hope the raccoon eyes and other possible effects disappear soon! And maybe you'll be lucky and learn that it wasn't the RL at all and you can start using it again 
I am like you - my lashes were so short to begin with, most people don't see much difference when my lashes are at their longest. But, *I* noticed, and I loved having them longer. I'm hoping the irritation and darkening subsides eventually, as it did for other users.
Are you planning to try the RL again if the side effects go away (just to see if that was the cause)? |
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Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:59 pm |
| Lowbrowscientist wrote: |
| Bira wrote: |
Hi, just a really quick update, I decided to discontinue using RapidLash because ofthe raccoon eyes I've been experiencing and have been contributing to the sunscreen. Since I am not certain what's really causing it, I have now stopped using retin-a, and rapidlash until condition improves. (Crossing fingers and toes that it will)
The reason I thought to discontinue use of rapidlash is because I read the lumigan thread where a doctor was saying that you can get darkened skin under the eyes, and hair growth on cheeks from using prostaglandins. I'm sure it's a small percentage where people suffer the side effects, but I did observe I can see darkened hair on my cheeks now, which I never saw before. It was enough to bother me and I started to plug some off with tweezers. So I'm hoping that by stopping RL, the hair growth will stop, too.
On the other front, my lashes did grow long. However due to the before being really short, the after is not that impressive to the naked eyes. To my eyes though, I think it's probably close to double the normal length.
I'm also hoping with discontinued use, the dry eye problem will get a little better. |
Bira, good luck - I hope the raccoon eyes and other possible effects disappear soon! And maybe you'll be lucky and learn that it wasn't the RL at all and you can start using it again
I am like you - my lashes were so short to begin with, most people don't see much difference when my lashes are at their longest. But, *I* noticed, and I loved having them longer. I'm hoping the irritation and darkening subsides eventually, as it did for other users.
Are you planning to try the RL again if the side effects go away (just to see if that was the cause)? |
Hi thanks for the well wishing. I might try again. Right now it's so crazy with the dark skin under the eyes, the dry eyes, and hair growth on cheeks that I just want to stop everything and use only avocado oil. |
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Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:42 am |
Hey I googled "Rapidlash Prostaglandins" to see if Rapidlash contains any Prostaglandins since I seem to have got some of the adverse side effects from users of the other brands that contain Prostaglandins.
Here's what I found:
Original link: http://askville.amazon.com/Rapid-Lash-side-effect/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=53714409
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The Internet is flipping out today about the dangers of Rapid Lash, the renewal serum designed to make it seem like you have eyelashes and eyebrows. It works! But the serum, which includes a prostaglandin analogue called isopropyl cloprostenate, can irritate the eyes. And your eyes might change colors. Oh, and you could lose your vision entirely. We thought you should know, because lush lashes are harder to enjoy when you can't see them. But just as important, from an entertainment perspective, is how much better the Rapid Lash commercial becomes if you imagine that the perky host is Strangers With Candy's Jerri Blank (Amy Sedaris). Press play below.
Sources: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/06/rapid-lash-warning-glaucoma-eyelash-renewal.html
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Is that true? Is isopropyl cloprostenate a Prostaglandins? I'm inclined to conclude it is since I got so many symptoms that sound like side effects of prostaglandins: dark color under eyes, hair growth on cheeks, dry eyes. All these symptoms are now better since I stopped using Rapidlash on Sunday.
ETA: I'm sad I'm one of the minority who experiences the side effects of prostaglandins! Just have to mention that! lol I wish I'm one of the majority who doesn't get it. I enjoy the longer lashes I'm having but now I know they'll shed eventually and the new growth will revert back to the original 3-4 mm length. Isn't that just so sad that God gave me short lashes, and also gave me the sensitivity to the drug that grows them? God must not want me to have long lashes.  |
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Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:33 pm |
Analogs are similar sometimes very much so
ANNALOG:
In science
Structural analog, a chemical compound with a slightly altered chemical structure
Functional analog, a chemical compound with similar properties
Substrate analog, a chemical compound that resembles the substrate in an enzymatic reaction
Transition state analog, a chemical compound that resembles the transition state of a substrate in an enzymatic reaction |
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:37 am |
I just thought I'd update my Rapidlash experience. I have been washing my lids w/ tearless baby shampoo as suggested here and being very careful when applying the Rapidlash; making sure it's only on my lashline and NOT on my skin or waterline. The irritation has lessen quite a bit. My eyes do feel a little tired some days, but Visine or Soothe helps. My lids are a bit darker, but if I skip a night, they go back to their normal color. I doubt the discoloration is permanent- just be kind to the delicate skin & they should look better. I'm not sure about any results yet - it's only been 2-3 weeks. My lashes do seem a bit longer, but it could be my imagination lol! I'll update as the weeks go by.
Also, I've tinted them with 1000hr lash tint in blue/black and that stuff is fabulous!!! |
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:35 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| brenpatsa wrote: |
| (caring for my dad at home on hospice, and his passing away on 8/11) |
Brenpatsa, I am very sorry for your loss. I lost my mom in July. It is a hard this to deal with, even when you know it is coming. |
Just seeing this now...Thank you so much for your kind words, Riley. I am so sorry to hear about you losing your mom too. I knew it would be bad but I never imagined how hard it would be...and I know you understand only too well.... |
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:49 pm |
Brenpasta,
My deepest condolences to you as well.
I am just a little way behind you, caring for dad, hospice at home, getting very close to the end.
My heart goes out to you, and God bless you for caring for him at home!
Riley,
My sympathies to you as well on the loss of your mom! I know how hard it is I lost mine 21 years ago.
Take care of yourselves, that is what they would want for you to do!
Rona |
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:51 pm |
| Lowbrowscientist wrote: |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| brenpatsa wrote: |
| (caring for my dad at home on hospice, and his passing away on 8/11) |
Brenpatsa, I am very sorry for your loss. I lost my mom in July. It is a hard this to deal with, even when you know it is coming. |
(((rileygirl and brenpatsa))) (I can't give you hugs in person, so my lame internet parentheses-hug will have to do)
My heart goes out to both of you.
Bren, I can totally relate to your situation - I took a leave of absence, from life, pretty much, last summer to help care for my dad while he was at home on hospice. He passed away last September (so hard to believe that it's almost a year already). I was so glad he was able to be at home, but near the end, things did get very tiring because he needed round the clock care. Things like skin care definitely paled in comparison, but my poor rash-prone skin did start having trouble.
I'm glad that your lashes are improving again now that you're back to using the RL on a regular basis. Unfortunately, I'm having a lot of irritation and lid darkening with RapidLash that I never had with Lumigan, but I'm determined to stick it out as long as I can.
Talking about our lashes and skin seems so trivial in times like this, doesn't it? But sometimes those little things help us maintain a sense of structure and security. I hope the board chit-chat offers at least a little of that for both of you. Sending warm thoughts. |
What a sweet and sensitive post, Low Brow! I am just seeing this for the first time today and was so very touched to read your words. I am sorry that several of us have this profound loss in common but it does help me feel less alone. My skin also acted up during those last few weeks when we had Dad home on hospice. I have never known such stress so I guess it isn't surprising that my skin reacted in its own way and, of course, I couldn't have cared less at the time.
Anyway, thanks for your kind words. I hope that this past year has brought you some level of healing though I am sure the pain is still fresh, especially during this anniversary month. |
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:05 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
Brenpasta,
My deepest condolences to you as well.
I am just a little way behind you, caring for dad, hospice at home, getting very close to the end.
My heart goes out to you, and God bless you for caring for him at home!
Riley,
My sympathies to you as well on the loss of your mom! I know how hard it is I lost mine 21 years ago.
Take care of yourselves, that is what they would want for you to do!
Rona |
Oh Rona, not you too!
I know there are no words of comfort to be offered right now. None. I will tell you that a friend told me to embrace the time towards the end and assured me that memories could still be made and though I thought she was nuts when she said that, she was absolutely right. If you haven't read the book Final Gifts, I highly recommend it. (written by two very experienced hospice nurses). Reading that book helped us to recognize and interpret some of my dad's non-verbal communication; he was struggling to communicate with us and was agitated and restless until we were able to discern and confirm what he wanted us to know.
Hang in there and know that as hard as things are caring for dad right now, being able to do so is a privilege that so many others don't get. |
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:22 pm |
Dear Brenapasta,
Your words truly touch my heart, my Dad is just at the point where his voice is getting so week it is difficult to communicate with him. His hearing is terrible even with hearing aids. I treasure every minute I have with him I know he is a godsend even as he is passing from this world more and more each day!
He is completely bedridden, has to be spoon fed.
This is my choice 100% I could never live with myself if I dumped him in some home. My home is where he belongs.
Thank you for your kind words and thoughts as I know you are suffering your loss now!
I will look for the book you mentioned, I appreciate anything that helps to get through a very difficult time.
Bless you!!!
Rona |
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:32 pm |
LowBrow,
my heart goes out to you as well,I am sorry for your loss. I remember the loss of my mom like it was yesterday, and dad has at best 2 months. He taught me something I know I will be telling myself through the tears "LIFE IS FOR THE LIVING" I know it will be hard for all of us, but we have to live our lives. Mine is on hold, my father is my priority now.
Rona |
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:24 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
my Dad is just at the point where his voice is getting so week it is difficult to communicate with him. His hearing is terrible even with hearing aids. I treasure every minute I have with him I know he is a godsend even as he is passing from this world more and more each day!
He is completely bedridden, has to be spoon fed.
This is my choice 100% I could never live with myself if I dumped him in some home. My home is where he belongs.
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I am very sorry to hear about your father, Rona. We did this with my mother, as well, kept her at home, bedridden; just a horrible thing to go through. My thoughts and prayers are with you. |
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:43 am |
Thanks so much Riley,
I know all of you who have taken this on know how difficult it is.
It helps to be able to share with people who understand.
I was reading won't mention where about caretakers and how they cope, there was so much resentment towards the parent they were caring for, and whining what about me. I stopped going there. My dad is a gift that I will treasure always, and as long as he is alive he will get the best possible care! He gave it to me his whole life.
Again thanks to you Riley, and bless you. |
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:43 am |
Does anyone know there I can get the RapidLash in Europe?
RapidLash doesn't sell outside the US and Canada.
Its on 49,95 on ebay one every auction right now, not so low price.. |
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:08 am |
Here is the official site:
https://www.rapidlash.com/ver3/
maybe they can help?
I've seen it on Ebay and Amazon as well.
I have Seen that USD price is $49.99 or close so not that cheap. But most others are between $100.00 and $160.00 so a lot cheaper than most of the same type of product.
HTH
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Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:40 am |
I have seen the Rapidlash on Amazon for $30 from one seller. I have no idea on how much their shipping is but it comes up in a search if you want to check it out.
I'd be interested in hearing from more on their results with the product. I have read some reviews on Amazon as well and it seems like some have great results while others experience side effects that diminish their overall opinion of the product. |
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Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:42 am |
That seems to be the case with Lumigan and Latisse as well as all the brands with the analogue some are thrilled and others are having some major issues with. One thing I read is washing with baby shampoo prior to using any of the above helps prevent reactions. I am still on the fence, worried about running into problems, and I am sitting on two bottles of Lumigan!! Just not sure if I want to chance it!
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Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:30 pm |
| I had darkening of my eye lids when using the Jan Marini which is the same as Latisse or Lumigan. Since using the RL for about 4-5 months now I am seeing them start to go back to normal. Really glad I found this stuff and don't have to deal with that anymore. |
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:22 am |
Wenrow,
I am happy for you, reading the thread (riding fence due to reactions) you are indeed one of the lucky ones, it seems many are having the same issues with the analogue as with the active in Lumigan Latisse! I am so undecided the positive results sound great, side effects sound awful!
Thanks for posting!
DM |
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:05 pm |
| I used rapidlash and now I opened my lumigan. I like the lumigan much better. It's not thick and goopy like rapidlash, it seems I'm less likely to get it in my eyes. I bought a very skinny paintbrush, put a drop on a clean mirror and then apply. It soaks right in and doesnt seem to be as messy or hard to apply as the rapidlash |
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:03 pm |
| oranges wrote: |
| I used rapidlash and now I opened my lumigan. I like the lumigan much better. It's not thick and goopy like rapidlash, it seems I'm less likely to get it in my eyes. I bought a very skinny paintbrush, put a drop on a clean mirror and then apply. It soaks right in and doesnt seem to be as messy or hard to apply as the rapidlash |
Oranges,
How long have you been using the Lumigan? I am sitting on 2 unopened packages I ordered from United Chemists and still can't decide weather to risk reactions some have reported!
TIA
DM |
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