Dermapen – value?
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free skin care · Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:28 am

Mimis thanks for your reply, and for confirming what I suspected - that the laser does somewhat thin the skin. A few weeks into the first round, I started wondering about this as when I would do an extraction I sometimes see pinprick blood dots under the skin, though using the laser for me has meant less extractions, which is good...thinning the skin, not so good. I also was thinking of doing the needling right after the 8-week round ends. I agree that needling right after a Tria treatment would be overdoing it. At least for me.

Billybob thanks also for your reply, I have a Quasar Pro so I will use it after the M-My, but likely won't be using the M-My on a deeper level until October.

free skin care · Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:39 am

After my first my-m failed on the second use, I have purchased another one from the ebay seller below. It has a year guarantee and it is shipped from California so if I need to have it replaced or fixed, it will only cost the shipping to California. It has arrived and it works. Even if it only last for a year, I will feel I have my money's worth. I double checked with the ebay seller so that there would be no misunderstanding. I also received 10 needle cartridges.

The seller, betrue7187 said:

"We offer 1 year warranty to customers. If the item has defect or broken, we will repair it or exchange. You ship to us in California cost less, it is about $5. Thank you for contacting with us. Hopefully deal with you again."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121175446273?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

free skin care · Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:49 am

MaryClaire wrote:

After my first my-m failed on the second use, I have purchased another one from the ebay seller below. It has a year guarantee and it is shipped from California so if I need to have it replaced or fixed, it will only cost the shipping to California. It has arrived and it works. Even if it only last for a year, I will feel I have my money's worth. I double checked with the ebay seller so that there would be no misunderstanding. I also received 10 needle cartridges.

The seller, betrue7187 said:

"We offer 1 year warranty to customers. If the item has defect or broken, we will repair it or exchange. You ship to us in California cost less, it is about $5. Thank you for contacting with us. Hopefully deal with you again."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121175446273?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Hi MaryClaire, does your My-m say made in Korea anywhere on it? Also does the pink/red box it came in have have the writing that is shown on the eBay listing on it? The one in the eBay listing looks a little thicker then mine also but that could just be the photo. Thanks

free skin care · Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:54 am

The device does not say any manufacturing country. The box looks like the web site box with all lettering. The box looks just like the box my first my-m came in.

The only difference in the device itself is the letters "CE" below the plastic button/knob at the end of the handle. My old one did not have the "CE".

The website says it's made in Korea. Do you think this is a bad or good thing? Thanks!

free skin care · Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:35 am

CookieD,

I sent a message to the ebay seller asking the country of manufacture even though the website clearing states 'from Korea' and she said:

"In China. If you have problem with the item, I am the one to deal with them. You just send back to me. I will exchange or fit to you. Thank you very much for contacting with us."

free skin care · Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:20 pm

MaryClaire wrote:

The device does not say any manufacturing country. The box looks like the web site box with all lettering. The box looks just like the box my first my-m came in.

The only difference in the device itself is the letters "CE" below the plastic button/knob at the end of the handle. My old one did not have the "CE".

The website says it's made in Korea. Do you think this is a bad or good thing? Thanks!

The made in Korea is a good thing. The ones the Bellaire sells for $500 are suppose to be made in Korea.

I think most if not all the ones on EBay are made in China. Mine was. Although it works fine and I have no problems with it. I was just curious. Thanks.

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:32 am

Yikes! I did a SkinPen and a ViPeel on top. Holy mother of pearl did it burn. I kept having to hop off the bed to escape the burn. It burned for less then a minute but it was intense. I only did 2 layers and dabbed it on, not scrubbed. I didn't even frost!

I did this Thursday afternoon and the peeling has started today. I think once I peel around the mouth I will feel less weird.

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:12 am

LauraLizzie wrote:

Yikes! I did a SkinPen and a ViPeel on top. Holy mother of pearl did it burn. I kept having to hop off the bed to escape the burn. It burned for less then a minute but it was intense. I only did 2 layers and dabbed it on, not scrubbed. I didn't even frost!

I did this Thursday afternoon and the peeling has started today. I think once I peel around the mouth I will feel less weird.

You did a peel on top of a needling treatment!!! That is really not advisable. The acid will go deep into the holes you have created - but I guess you know that now!!

Hope it works out for you - but I would warn others against doing this.

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:47 am

Keliu wrote:

LauraLizzie wrote:

Yikes! I did a SkinPen and a ViPeel on top. Holy mother of pearl did it burn. I kept having to hop off the bed to escape the burn. It burned for less then a minute but it was intense. I only did 2 layers and dabbed it on, not scrubbed. I didn't even frost!

I did this Thursday afternoon and the peeling has started today. I think once I peel around the mouth I will feel less weird.

You did a peel on top of a needling treatment!!! That is really not advisable. The acid will go deep into the holes you have created - but I guess you know that now!!

Hope it works out for you - but I would warn others against doing this.

Just an FYI that we had a fellow EDS member do this in the past, and she ended up with major PIH as a result. Please be careful!

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:42 am

MaryClaire wrote:

After my first my-m failed on the second use, I have purchased another one from the ebay seller below. It has a year guarantee and it is shipped from California so if I need to have it replaced or fixed, it will only cost the shipping to California. It has arrived and it works. Even if it only last for a year, I will feel I have my money's worth. I double checked with the ebay seller so that there would be no misunderstanding. I also received 10 needle cartridges.

The seller, betrue7187 said:

"We offer 1 year warranty to customers. If the item has defect or broken, we will repair it or exchange. You ship to us in California cost less, it is about $5. Thank you for contacting with us. Hopefully deal with you again."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121175446273?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Thanks for the info on this...I've been eyeing the My-M for a while and decided to get this one also. Sounded like a good deal and free shipping too.

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:33 am

Found this interesting. Horst Liebl's company apparently made arrangements with a US distributer to sell the eDermastamp here which is another competitor to the Dermapen.

FDA blocked them, citing that they were advertising the devices for anti-aging use instead of devices to alleviate acne, scarring, etc.

http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm342779.htm

These devices seem to be popular elsewhere, particularly Australia. The Australians get all the cool stuff, LOL

BFG

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:34 am

Barefootgirl wrote:

Found this interesting. Horst Liebl's company apparently made arrangements with a US distributer to sell the eDermastamp here which is another competitor to the Dermapen.

FDA blocked them, citing that they were advertising the devices for anti-aging use instead of devices to alleviate acne, scarring, etc.

http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm342779.htm

These devices seem to be popular elsewhere, particularly Australia. The Australians get all the cool stuff, LOL

BFG

Below is the link to the eDermastamp the BFG talks about. I noticed a couple of differences between this and the Dermapen. It only has 6 needles per cartridge. Also the needle cartridge itself has a "long neck" portion that serves as a reservoir for the infiltration of approved drugs or solutions. I guess you are able to stamp in different actives into your skin during a treatment.

http://www.edermastamp.de/en/

ETA: Here is the technical information.

http://www.edermastamp.de/en/home/daten

They say that they do not sell to the general public.

http://www.dermarollerus.com/where-buy

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:12 pm

Barefootgirl wrote:

Found this interesting. Horst Liebl's company apparently made arrangements with a US distributer to sell the eDermastamp here which is another competitor to the Dermapen.

FDA blocked them, citing that they were advertising the devices for anti-aging use instead of devices to alleviate acne, scarring, etc.

http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm342779.htm

These devices seem to be popular elsewhere, particularly Australia. The Australians get all the cool stuff, LOL

BFG

Very interesting. Note the mention of the reservoir system.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/dermaroller/edermastamp/prweb10333787.htm

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:26 pm

Appears to be the most advanced of the various devices of this kind, I suspect the quality is good as well.

If you noticed in the FDA warning letter, they referenced product specifications...I did not study them carefully, but the discussion appeared similar to the issues SVaughter raised with respect to cycle time and power.

BFG

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:28 pm

There are some very recent YouTube videos showing use of this device...in other countries, of course LOL

BFG

free skin care · Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:50 pm

I like that reservoir neck! Instead if putting topicals on the skin, it would drip them on by itself. Nice!

free skin care · Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:40 pm

I did my first treatment last Saturday, my skin started peeling on Wednesday , I use the 1.5 setting. I was very aggressive, made many passes, I was even more ruthless on what I considered problem areas. One such area is from under my lower lip to the bottom go my chin, the inside of my mouth has a ridge if sloughing skin that perfectly follows the outline of my lower lip! It started at the exact same spot where the bottom of my lower lip is. The skin in there didn't hurt, it was just annoying because it would break away and I could feel the skin on my teeth and tongue. I posted this to the diy site, but there are only a few of us using the pen there. So I thought I would bring this to a larger forum . So I am asking for your collective expertise. Has anyone else experienced this? It's the My-M that I use.

free skin care · Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:30 am

rmc7 wrote:

I did my first treatment last Saturday, my skin started peeling on Wednesday , I use the 1.5 setting. I was very aggressive, made many passes, I was even more ruthless on what I considered problem areas. One such area is from under my lower lip to the bottom go my chin, the inside of my mouth has a ridge if sloughing skin that perfectly follows the outline of my lower lip! It started at the exact same spot where the bottom of my lower lip is. The skin in there didn't hurt, it was just annoying because it would break away and I could feel the skin on my teeth and tongue. I posted this to the diy site, but there are only a few of us using the pen there. So I thought I would bring this to a larger forum . So I am asking for your collective expertise. Has anyone else experienced this? It's the My-M that I use.

Hi rmc- I have done a few dermarolling treatments with the My-m and have not experienced anything like that. Do you ever get cold sores? It might have something to do with that virus. I don't really know I'm just guessing here.

Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:23 pm

Hey all,

Wow! This is an amazing forum and I have been sitting at home glued for the past couple of days reading and reading and reading your threads.

So now I have a question...

I have previously used lasers like Fraxel and Ematrix at the dermatologist's office but have just found the ongoing cost increasingly prohibitive. Everytime I go there's more to do! So I've recently been educating myself about derma-rolling and have done it at home on my face once, and afterwards my skin felt/looked almost exactly like it usually looks after those expensive spa lasers... so I know I am on to something... Wink

Anyway, I specifically want to target the area under my eyes (inside the orbital area) and I really want to address the creping I am getting at the inner corner of my eyes and some lines under my eyes. A roller is tricky to get in there so this is what I am thinking about doing:

1. Tria over the majority of my face/neck/hands/whatever else I can find!!

2. Some kind of dermapen (either 0.25mm or 0.5mm) that will allow me to get right into the corners of my eyes, under the eyes, crows feet, browbone, etc.

Does anyone think this is a bad idea? Would love to hear your wise words! Smile

emacpherson

free skin care · Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:56 am

Hi Elle

You are gorgeous and aging beautifully!

I am not well versed on the Tria.

I think the Dermapen would work great around the eye area - (but it's not a DIY option!) for that you'd have to go with a different brand.

Search around the My-M threads for more details.

Best, BFG

Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:17 pm

Ha ha! Thanks BFG!!! Smile

By the way, I know some EDS members were talking about the German-motor Dermapen on:

ibeautymachine dot com (sorry, I'm apparently not allowed to include a link since I am still new here)

I emailed the company about where it was manufactured since I know about the Korean-made vs China-made debate. The company replied and said it is made in China, which makes me think they are probably charging a little much compared to all the other China-made knock-offs that are on Ebay...

Hope this helps!

emacpherson

free skin care · Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:48 pm

Hello James,
I just want to make sure I understand correctly. Here you say,

JamesM wrote:

I understand what all of you are saying regarding the tips being adjustable but unfortunately I dont think this is something we can do for a couple of reasons.
1. When we make an adjustable system the adjustments are in the body of the machine not in the tips themselves.

But before you said,

JamesM wrote:

I believe we will use this model [Personal model] but we will offer some longer lengths for it... but in lieu of everything else that has been written we want to make sure we offer those with all of the disclaimers and test we have spoken about... So ostensibly you could purchase this one now and the longer needles when they are ready.

This seems contradictory to me; if the needle length is fixed inside the device itself, how does exchanging the tip change anything?? Am I missing something here???
thx. fawnie

Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:37 pm

There is a wealth of good information in this thread. Cheers guys.

I was wondering if anyone has used the My-M for stretch marks and if they have seen any good results? I am considering purchasing one off eBay.

I bought a DermaJet from OwnDoc almost a year ago and while the device worked great, I only used it three times due to how loud it was. Sadly I live in a flat with thin walls between me and my neighbours and there was no time of day that I felt comfortable using it due to the noise. I would consider selling it (it is like new) at a knockdown price if anyone here was interested. Apologies if it is unacceptable to discuss such things here.

So another question I have is: does anyone know how loud the My-M pen is in comparison with the Dermajet? From videos I have seen, it seems substantially quieter.

Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:56 am

I know this is an older thread but was wondering if anyone here is still using their My-M? I was thinking about ordering one off eBay but wanted to hear from others whether or not it is worth the investment.

Thanks for your help Smile

free skin care · Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:04 am

I use a My-M. Makes almost no sound. I've only seen slight skin improvements personally, but I know others have seen more dramatic ones. It's a good product from my perspective. Used it 6-7 times so far (monthly).

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