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Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:21 am |
Hi - after several trips to the dr and tests - I finally was doing research online and found out two things
one of the side effects of long term ibuprofin use is hairloss
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sensitivity to things like wood dust, from woodworking ( i lost so much hair it scared me) and chemicals used in bugkillers.When I spray for spiders I now wear a chemical breather mask bactually for both woodworking and bugspraying.
edited to add I stopped taking any nsaids. another side effect that showed I ws not able to take those was INCREASED swelling... not decreased - which of corse was what it was supposed to be for) |
_________________ I'm Cathy, 54 yrs old. Flexeffect Certified Trainer in the 2004 vrsn - not the newer one. using flexeffect sincee 1999. |
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:54 pm |
I just want to let everyone know I received my FE program in the mail today and am so excited to get started. I am going to read through the whole booklet first though to get a feel for everything. I feel so empowered that now I have the means to build up areas of my face that I thought only surgery or a filler could do. |
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Elaine523
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Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:01 pm |
I'm excited for you, Kay. Please let us know how you do. And Cathy, I understand your frustration. Did your hair become full again? |
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:25 pm |
My hair got very full.For awhile it looked pretty strange with new hair sticking straight up as it grew back. LOL.
After I started wearing the "gas mask" to do things, stopped taking ibuprofin I added in hair skin and nail formulated vitamins from various manufacturers,whatever was on sale, and added shen-min too, my hair is now very full. only use a comb on it, combing from the bottom up as though I were combing a child's hair.
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_________________ I'm Cathy, 54 yrs old. Flexeffect Certified Trainer in the 2004 vrsn - not the newer one. using flexeffect sincee 1999. |
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Elaine523
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Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:28 pm |
That's great, Cathy! I take biotin which I think is equal to the vitamins you took. Do you think the shen-min was effective? How did you get it? |
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Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:33 am |
There are several vitamin and herbal shops in my area so i was lucky.
Also I found an online store to order from and can get them from there. |
_________________ I'm Cathy, 54 yrs old. Flexeffect Certified Trainer in the 2004 vrsn - not the newer one. using flexeffect sincee 1999. |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:39 am |
Elaine523 wrote: |
Thanks Claudia! Does RetinA need a prescription? I have been very careful as to what I put on my face; only natural; and I only use mascara and lipstick. I should add that I am 68 but until 3 years ago I was always taken to be about 15 years younger. When I turned 65 everything changed: lost about a third of my thick hair and these lip lines appeared. |
You can get Retin A from All Day Chemist without a script. |
_________________ 49*~~dark auburn, light, blue/green*~~ Red/Infrared/Amber LED*~~ Dermarolling*~~ Retin A*~~ Cupping*~~Homeopathic HGH*~~Ionic Footbaths*~~About to put my Incline Table Together**** See what all you people are driving me to???****Don't get me started on the supplements, you'll regret it**** Love Wins... |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:36 am |
Do you have a website address for All Day Chemist?? |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:51 am |
This is just an addendum to my previous post, have you had experience buying from All Day Chemist?? Sounds good but I am just a little bit skeptical of giving my crdit card info and ordering something from a company such as this without some kind of info from other buyers. Thanks! |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:55 am |
I bought lumigan and I bought retin a - both in the same package. |
_________________ I'm Cathy, 54 yrs old. Flexeffect Certified Trainer in the 2004 vrsn - not the newer one. using flexeffect sincee 1999. |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:40 am |
KayS wrote: |
Do you have a website address for All Day Chemist?? |
http://www.alldaychemist.com/ |
_________________ 49*~~dark auburn, light, blue/green*~~ Red/Infrared/Amber LED*~~ Dermarolling*~~ Retin A*~~ Cupping*~~Homeopathic HGH*~~Ionic Footbaths*~~About to put my Incline Table Together**** See what all you people are driving me to???****Don't get me started on the supplements, you'll regret it**** Love Wins... |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:40 am |
IMCathy wrote: |
I bought lumigan and I bought retin a - both in the same package. |
Did you need a prescription for the Lumigan? |
_________________ 49*~~dark auburn, light, blue/green*~~ Red/Infrared/Amber LED*~~ Dermarolling*~~ Retin A*~~ Cupping*~~Homeopathic HGH*~~Ionic Footbaths*~~About to put my Incline Table Together**** See what all you people are driving me to???****Don't get me started on the supplements, you'll regret it**** Love Wins... |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:16 am |
I just purchased some Retin A Gel from All Day Chemist. That is one of the things I love about this forum you learn so many ins and outs of things. Thanks for the info!! |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:26 am |
WHoa... Kay... REtin a Gel??? Is this your first time with retin A.
What strength did you get?
Did you get the micro Gel? Or just regular Gel? |
_________________ Claudia of FlexEffect... 43, fair skin, occasional breakout, Using ECO FROG (my own=disclaimer), and TrueScience (I also sell this)... Happy with that...Come visit on FB! |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:37 am |
I used Retin A for many years, including the gel I have very oily skin. I have not used Retin A for a long time. I got the regular gel, to tell you the truth I did not see the micro gel on there, maybe I missed it. But the strength I got is 1%. I plan on using it on certain areas of my face like the lines I have at the corners of my mouth that are deep and nothing else has worked. I may use it on the crows feet as well. I will spot test those areas first to see how it does. |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:18 am |
OH... then YOU KNOW what to expect. I've just seen/heard too many people jump right into the high dosage, and end up with lizard skin and they just decide it's not for them. Miss out on all the benefits and suffer the pain and embarrassment for not knowing... |
_________________ Claudia of FlexEffect... 43, fair skin, occasional breakout, Using ECO FROG (my own=disclaimer), and TrueScience (I also sell this)... Happy with that...Come visit on FB! |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:21 pm |
The gel seems to work better for me as my skin is so oily, even at 60. |
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:45 pm |
InkyProse wrote: |
IMCathy wrote: |
I bought lumigan and I bought retin a - both in the same package. |
Did you need a prescription for the Lumigan? |
I didn't- not quite sure how it worked, but I filled out some forms at the beginning and put in the product numbers and it went through.
It has been a few months so I'm not sure if they had a Dr on site or what. |
_________________ I'm Cathy, 54 yrs old. Flexeffect Certified Trainer in the 2004 vrsn - not the newer one. using flexeffect sincee 1999. |
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niecault
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Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:23 am |
Hi,
I'm not sure if I'm writing in right place, anyway I hope not to make too big mess with my words. I found your forum few days ago when I discoverd that such thing as facial exercises exists. I want to start doing it, I downloaded Loulu's book and had a quick look at the content. But before Ageless method I came across a tool used in facial exercises - FacialFlex.
I was trying to find any opinion about that on your forum but I cannot find anything... Really, nobdy uses it? If anybody can tell me something I would be grateful. I'm from Poland and here it is not popular at all... Thank you, Magda. |
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Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:58 am |
Hi niecault
Ageless also has its own forum you should look at, which has some great tips for the exercises.
Facial Flex I think has been mentioned a couple of times here by different people. I think some were concerned over the results they had from it, as it caused the nl lines to worsen (but could be wrong).
niecault wrote: |
Hi,
I'm not sure if I'm writing in right place, anyway I hope not to make too big mess with my words. I found your forum few days ago when I discoverd that such thing as facial exercises exists. I want to start doing it, I downloaded Loulu's book and had a quick look at the content. But before Ageless method I came across a tool used in facial exercises - FacialFlex.
I was trying to find any opinion about that on your forum but I cannot find anything... Really, nobdy uses it? If anybody can tell me something I would be grateful. I'm from Poland and here it is not popular at all... Thank you, Magda. |
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:54 am |
I've been using Ageless if you Dare for about 6 months now. I only use it once a week and I've seen some improvement with the lines on my upper lip. |
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Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:12 am |
For those of you who really needed to fill out the upper cheek area - do you think Ageless accomplish this as well as FE? |
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Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:43 pm |
Hi MommyDearest,
Do you mean the upper cheek on the edges (zyg minor) or frontally (caput infra-orbitale)? Are you trying to build up only or up and out? With FE there are two for the zyg minor and one for the caput. My zyg minor has really built up nicely -- and it did so fairly quickly. I'm having a harder time withe caput. It has lifted some but but I'd like it to go a bit higher and also build more projection outwards (volume). This is harder to build, I think, and my technique was wrong for some time.
I have both programs and prefer FE. Personal opinion. Good luck!
Vangirl |
_________________ 43 y/o: dark hair, blue eyes, fair skin... Holy grails are Flex Effect and Retin A. Still trying to find the perfect 'physical' sunscreen |
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Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:58 pm |
vangirl3 wrote: |
Hi MommyDearest,
Do you mean the upper cheek on the edges (zyg minor) or frontally (caput infra-orbitale)? Are you trying to build up only or up and out? With FE there are two for the zyg minor and one for the caput. My zyg minor has really built up nicely -- and it did so fairly quickly. I'm having a harder time withe caput. It has lifted some but but I'd like it to go a bit higher and also build more projection outwards (volume). This is harder to build, I think, and my technique was wrong for some time.
I have both programs and prefer FE. Personal opinion. Good luck!
The area I need to want volume and lifting would be over the Caput infra-orbitale and the Lavator Labiii muslces. This is where I would want filler. It is the center mid face I guess. I have had it filled with Restylane before but it is just so expensive. I could see it was heading in the right direction but I would need much more and it would cost thousands and only last a few months. I suppose in the end fat grafting might be the solution if I am one of the lucky ones who retain. I have not seen many exercises targeted here. I guess I can always make up my own. I also need volume along the side of the nose bridge. Because my outer cheeks are so high and wide I need everything inwards to lift up and fill out I guess. Don't get me wrong I could still use lifting to the zyg's but that seems much easier to target.
Thanks for your help.
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Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:11 pm |
mommydearest wrote: |
The area I need to want volume and lifting would be over the Caput infra-orbitale and the Lavator Labiii muslces. This is where I would want filler. It is the center mid face I guess. I have had it filled with Restylane before but it is just so expensive. I could see it was heading in the right direction but I would need much more and it would cost thousands and only last a few months. I suppose in the end fat grafting might be the solution if I am one of the lucky ones who retain. I have not seen many exercises targeted here. I guess I can always make up my own. I also need volume along the side of the nose bridge. Because my outer cheeks are so high and wide I need everything inwards to lift up and fill out I guess. Don't get me wrong I could still use lifting to the zyg's but that seems much easier to target.
Thanks for your help. |
Okay, I can totally see what you want (me too !)Yeah, I've wrestled with getting a filler too but I'm just going to give the exercises more time (15 mos now -- 6 mos of doing said exercise wrong) before I cave in. Be careful with fat... I read somewhere that the satisfaction rate was less than 30%. Miss J's cosmetic surgery forum has quite a few discussions about it -- if you're interested.
FE does have a really brilliant exercise specifically for the sides of the nose (caput angulare). Nose Lift. That area built up very quickly on me.
Vangirl |
_________________ 43 y/o: dark hair, blue eyes, fair skin... Holy grails are Flex Effect and Retin A. Still trying to find the perfect 'physical' sunscreen |
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