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Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:47 am  |
My mom has a friend who will lay on the edge of the bed with her head dropping off it in an upsidedown position for 30 minutes everyday. Apparently, she has the most quote "amazing, beautiful, wrinkle free skin" out of just about everyone. I for one thought it was absurd that anyone would actually lay with their face upside for 30 min everyday. But then again, if 30 minutes a day works better than botox I suppose it's a small price to pay. How great would it be if you could just sleep through the night in that position  |
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:16 am |
| SoniaK1 wrote: |
| My mom has a friend who will lay on the edge of the bed with her head dropping off it in an upsidedown position for 30 minutes everyday. Apparently, she has the most quote "amazing, beautiful, wrinkle free skin" out of just about everyone. I for one thought it was absurd that anyone would actually lay with their face upside for 30 min everyday. But then again, if 30 minutes a day works better than botox I suppose it's a small price to pay. How great would it be if you could just sleep through the night in that position |
Now that's DEDICATION. |
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:52 am |
| Hi catski, I have a facial exercise video by Eva Fraser, which has a 5 min daily workout routine which I do when watching TV. It also has all the individual ones too but I find the daily routine is great for keeping my face firm and it's quick and easy. I also have Facercise, but find this routine much easier. |
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:11 am |
Which video do you have, lillilulu?
When I looked her up, she has 3 different videos. One of them is 'advanced' - which is interesting. I wonder what 'advanced' facial excercises are?!
5 minutes is phenomenally quick to do a whole face workout - I'd love to try it. I guess you know it off by heart now. Is it a 5 min section of the video /DVD that you can just do it along with?
Eva Fraser has an amazing face, doesnt she? the facial equivalent of a rock hard six pack! |
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:11 pm |
| Boy I'll do anything to get rid of my nasolabial folds as they're the worst part of my 57 year old face. That and a couple of fine lines on my forehead. And of course my facial skin is beginning to say due I think to dieting and gaining back weight for so long. I was doing the exercises for ages, but then just stopped. I'm going to resume the exercises starting tonight! Btw, has anyone here used the Baby Quasar? There are raves about that machine on another thread in the forum, I've read it works, but is rather pricey. |
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:13 pm |
| LOLOL...in my post directly above this one, I meant to say my facial skin SAGS not says...unfortunately, or fortunately as the case may be, my facial skin does not talk...LOL |
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:16 pm |
| Sonia? does your Mom's friend lay on her back or stomach while hanging her head off the side of her bed for 30 mins.? I'm sure it's helping her skin because being in that position causes the blood to rush to the head. I hear it does wonders for the hair as well. Geez! I hope aliens never get into this forum. They'll think we're all a bunch of nuts! LOL |
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:11 pm |
| I had once read that this was what Dinah Shore had done to. Linder |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:49 am |
| Hi Catski, I have had it for years so it's probably the first one she brought out. I've not tried any more, but it's really easy to follow. She takes you through all the individual exercises, (which obviously you can do for longer if you need to target a certain area), and then you put all the exercises together for the daily workout which when you've done it a few times, is easy to remember and you won't need to watch the video. I sometimes go ages without doing it (get lazy) but can notice the difference within a week of starting it again. I personally find the exercises much easier to do than the Facercise. |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:47 am |
| I hate to say it, but don't you find Eva Fraser's face weird though? I stopped doing her exercises after I saw her on TV - it freaked me out. |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:38 am |
Oh, blimey, Molly, I've got one of her videos. Scared to try it now!   |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:29 am |
| No Majorb really *don't* - her face is firm, but *frightening* in fact her eyes look like that too. |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:42 pm |
I think Eva Fraser has done a lot lot lot of facial excercising. 
I wonder how old she is? Does anyone know? |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:44 pm |
| I read that she is in her 70's. Linder |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:58 pm |
| I would think exercises would give you more wrinkles,I have always heard making certaincontinued"expressions "will form wrinkles |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:39 pm |
Not a doctor or anything. This is something that just makes sense to me, personally--your facial skin sits over muscle just like skin over the rest of your body. Facial muscles are not "attached" the same way, very true. But, muscles do atrophy, get weak, sag. And if we workout the rest of our muscles, why not the face?
If you workout your body muscles incorrectly you can cause damage there, too. It's just a matter of doing them correctly, seems to me.
JMHO
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:34 pm |
| Arielle wrote: |
Not a doctor or anything. This is something that just makes sense to me, personally--your facial skin sits over muscle just like skin over the rest of your body. Facial muscles are not "attached" the same way, very true. But, muscles do atrophy, get weak, sag. And if we workout the rest of our muscles, why not the face?
If you workout your body muscles incorrectly you can cause damage there, too. It's just a matter of doing them correctly, seems to me.
JMHO
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That's exactly the concept! I know a couple ladies (one of them has her own facial exercise videos out) who have amazingly firm faces and the one in particular has the tightest cheek "apples" ever ... she developed a special technique to tone that area. Trust me, these ladies have very few wrinkles for their age (mid to late 50s and older), and practically no sagging.
If done correctly, you are isolating and working the muscle, not stretching the skin. In fact, they specifically warn against that and use techniques that don't stretch the skin. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:20 am |
| hi lefemme~ my mom's friend lays on her back. i tried it the other day and it helps if you use a pillow since the edge of the bed can start to bother your neck. You'll still be laying with your face upsidedown, but your neck will bend more at a curved angle rather than a sharp angle. Also, I suggest sliding back onto the bed when you're done so that your whole body is laying on it. That way you'll mitigate the huge cramp in your neck that you might have afterwards. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:14 am |
| Molly wrote: |
| No Majorb really *don't* - her face is firm, but *frightening* in fact her eyes look like that too. |
So it's a choice between looking old, normal and friendly - or young, bizarre and scary? |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:34 am |
| No, I think there's a happy medium. I believe in face exercises but not in overdoing it. I look at most of the pro's and think they're a bit freaky, but Eva Fraser's the worst. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:58 am |
I'd never heard of Eva Fraser so I went out to the web to see if I could find a photo. I'm afraid I don't understand exactly how she looks freaky. Is her photo not what she really looks like?
Ari
p.s. Can't help but tell you this. A few years ago, while I was a counter manager for Prescriptives, a woman about my age came in for a makeover. Her skin was EXACTLY like a 4-year old's skin. Completely FLAWLESS! No pores, no lines-- healthily pink-cheeked, etc. Stunning skin, truly. SHE looked "freaky". Why? Because of her eyes. They weren't lined or sagging or anything. It was the expression in the eyes, which is hard to explain. Kind of a "life's knowledge" thing, if that makes any sense. "Old" eyes in a baby's face looked very creepy to me. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:06 am |
I think it's partly in the movement Arielle, though of course you can touch up a photo easily anyway and these face-building pros are loathe to show a single wrinkle anywhere.
To me her eyes looked permanently surprised and her jaw and forehead looked too solid.
I've been face exercising for 10 years and you can end up a bit freaky if you overtighten bits of your face which weren't designed to be that way. Our facial physiologies are all different. For example, even as a child I had droopy upper eyelids. Now, I can exercise them til they're taught, but I look surprised/shocked so I don't do that anymore.
Also peoples' faces partly sag through muscle atrophy but also through a big loss of collagen as we get older. If you exercise enough you replace some of that missing collagen and get less wrinkly in those places, but muscle is harder than collagen so it doesn't look the same and especially when it's moving.
Just my theory based on my doing them for so long. You have to work out which bits of your face need it and which don't and exactly how far to go. You can't just follow one woman's programme to the letter. I did that at first, but really you end up with some peculiarities if their face is different from yours. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:14 am |
| Molly wrote: |
I think it's partly in the movement Arielle, though of course you can touch up a photo easily anyway and these face-building pros are loathe to show a single wrinkle anywhere.
To me her eyes looked permanently surprised and her jaw and forehead looked too solid.
I've been face exercising for 10 years and you can end up a bit freaky if you overtighten bits of your face which weren't designed to be that way. Our facial physiologies are all different. For example, even as a child I had droopy upper eyelids. Now, I can exercise them til they're taught, but I look surprised/shocked so I don't do that anymore.
Also peoples' faces partly sag through muscle atrophy but also through a big loss of collagen as we get older. If you exercise enough you replace some of that missing collagen and get less wrinkly in those places, but muscle is harder than collagen so it doesn't look the same and especially when it's moving.
Just my theory based on my doing them for so long. You have to work out which bits of your face need it and which don't and exactly how far to go. You can't just follow one woman's programme to the letter. I did that at first, but really you end up with some peculiarities if their face is different from yours. |
Ahah! I was wondering if that was it. Yep, I'm careful in the same way. I want my face to look firm but natural. You know? Younger but not abnormally so.
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:34 am |
| Molly, that's great advice for facial exercises! I will think about that more and so far, have only been doing the ones that affect the areas I want to firm up or maintain firmness. I haven't been working on the whole face or trying to change anything. I'd have been so surprised if I ended up looked freaky due to this so appreciate the info. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:40 am |
| I think you would have to exercise your face A LOT to get anywhere near the really tight look. As I said earlier, a quick facial workout helps me, but I haven't got the time or patience to do all the individul ones. I think Eva Fraser and Carole Maggio have too tight faces, definitely a case of too much. |
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