Review: Karin Herzog skincare
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free skin care · Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:02 pm

The money I have spent on KH has been well worth it. I feel very fortunate - that's often not the case when you invest in products, particularly ones you're buying online. Literally, every KH product I've purchased I've been very happy with.

The new serum seems to be a lot more expensive than the other products in her line. I wonder how long it will take before it starts being sold at places like EDS.

free skin care · Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:37 am

I certainly agree about the money spent on KH products. They are well worth it. And, I must say that I have liked every product I have used in this skin care line. Nothing has been thrown out.

I also agree that the new ER Serum will probably be the most expensive product sold. It's very hard to say when EDS will carry it as they are not yet carrying the Glyco Rose product and that one has been out for quite a long time now. However, I hope it's soon. It looks very interesting and something I would very much like to purchase.

free skin care · Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:27 am

I would definitely purchase the serum as well ... hint hint EDS !!!

free skin care · Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:08 pm

Just wanted to post that the KH products are 'playing' really well with any of the other products I've tried it with. I recently incorporated Revaleskin Serum into my routine. The KH products are still working well with it. My skin looks great.

It is SO nice to be able to use other products with the line and not have my skin react badly !!

free skin care · Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:33 am

That's one of the perks of KH. You really can use it with other skin care products and serums etc. KH does not have any kind of negative interactions to other products and skin care lines.

One of my favourite moisturizers is Creme de la Mer (yes, I know this is not a popular product on this forum) but I love this moisturizers and it works extremely well for me. On very cold winter days I will wear this on over my KH Oxygen Cream and it just works better than using the CDLM on its own.

Glad everything is still working for you Time2Bme.

free skin care · Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:02 am

ITA Leelee - KH is the best skincare line I've ever used. I used the Essential Mask last night .... I LOVE that mask. My skin looks and feels wonderful.

I've also used the VAK 3% on a couple of spots and it has worked amazingly well. After 'sharing' some of my daughter's Halloween candy, I had a few pimples around my nose. The VAK 3% took care of it overnight. By the next morning, the redness was completely gone and by the end of the day I couldn't see any signs of a pimple.

free skin care · Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:07 pm

Time2Bme....yes, VAK 3% is absolutely amazing!! A few weeks ago I bought a foundation without reading the ingredients. I don't usually use foundation but thought perhaps it would be nice to put on when I go out at night. Anyways,I discovered later on that this foundation had silicone in it because I broke out horribly from it and silicone ALWAYS breaks me out. However, it usually takes a good two weeks for me to get things back under control. However, this time I was armed with VAK 3% and in just two days everything was gone. This is truly a wonder product. Something I wouldn't be without.

Glad you like the Essential Mask. When I wear this on overnight I swear my face has plumped up when I look in the mirror in the morning. And, it is so soft to touch. Yes, another product I wouldn't be without.

free skin care · Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:20 pm

The VAK is going to be a must in my cabinet from now on. Without meaning to be gross, my daughter had a toe nail I was a little concerned about. I was concerned that it was the beginning of a fungal infection. I put the VAK 3% on it the last few nights and it has cleared it up. It is really cool. Her toe nail was yellow to grey coloured. It is back to being white and the skin doesn't look inflamed anymore.

Leelee, I remember you saying that you liked the foot cream. It only has 2% oxygen in it, but also has other ingredients. I was wondering if it was better to have the oxygen body cream (3%) on hand or the foot cream? I'm going to keep a close eye on my daughter's toe. I'm thinking that either the oxygen body cream or the foot cream may be good to have on hand when we go to a hockey tournament - it will mean swimming in hotel pools - that's when the wonky toe showed up to begin with.

free skin care · Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:23 am

Time2Bme.....Hi! I don't know which one would be better but I think that both would do the job very well. The foot cream has 3 essential oils that are probably antiseptic in nature and somewhat helpful towards getting red of the fungus, but I think it's the oxygen that is mainly responsible for killing the fungus. I would use the VAK 3% and just keep a watch on the toe nail. If you think it's not working then order the foot cream. It did work on my toe nail fungus. But, I would give the VAK a chance. It just may do the trick. Oxygen at 3% is quite powerful. Hope this helps you.

free skin care · Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:51 pm

Hi Leelee,

I ended up ordering the oxygen body cream to try. It says it has 3% oxygen as well and at $40 for a large tube, it is a better value. I liked the idea of the 3% oxygen since the VAK seems to be helping ... I just didn't want to use up my whole container on her feet. We're treating the one toe with it now.

If not, I'll order the foot cream next. I was torn between the two, but went with the oxygen because of the 3% and the larger tube !!

free skin care · Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:50 am

Time2Bme wrote:

Hi Leelee,

I ended up ordering the oxygen body cream to try. It says it has 3% oxygen as well and at $40 for a large tube, it is a better value. I liked the idea of the 3% oxygen since the VAK seems to be helping ... I just didn't want to use up my whole container on her feet. We're treating the one toe with it now.

If not, I'll order the foot cream next. I was torn between the two, but went with the oxygen because of the 3% and the larger tube !!

The body cream is fab! It's a really weird feeling when it's on your skin at first - a tingly, bubbling, warming. I could definitely notice a difference in skin texture after using it for a while, though.

free skin care · Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:47 am

majorb......yes, I do love the body cream too. Isn't it different from all other creams?? I also love that tingly feeling. It feels like it's really sinking into the skin and doing its job.

Time2Bme....I think the 3% oxygen will work on the fungus and of course you want a larger tube of it to be used on the foot. It makes perfect sense. Hope it does the job. Let us know what happens.

free skin care · Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:32 am

Thanks for the heads up about the tingling !!! With any luck, I'll receive it by the end of the week.

I really love the service at EDS. I ordered from another online skincare place because they didn't have a product I wanted to try. They had the KH handcream on sale, so I thought I'd try it. It has been 2 weeks and I still haven't gotten my products. When I followed up, I was told that they are out of stock. Neutral

It was the 1st time and last time I order from them.

free skin care · Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:23 am

Hi Time2Bme .....by coincidence I just placed an order with EDS because it was time to restock my KH products. Yes, their customer service is by far the best. I bought some KH products from another website because of a 50% sale. But, I encountered the same problem as you. I had to wait FOREVER because they were out of stock. Now, I just stay with EDS. They are reliable and very caring towards their customers.

The tingling with the body cream is nothing major. You may not even notice it. It's the sinking right into the skin that I like the best. I'm sure and hope you will like the body cream too.

free skin care · Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:07 pm

I have been using the Super GHK Serum on my eyes at night. I use the KH eye cream in the morning.

I am wondering for any of you who also use CPs ... have you used them with any of the VAK creams. What I am wondering is if it is okay to use a VAK cream over a CP ... allowing some absorption time (ie. 10 mins or so)

Or ... when you use CPs & KH, do you use one in the am and the other in the pm???

I am wondering if you have to split them up between AM and PM or if it okay to use them in conjuction with each other.

I'm going to cross post this on the SB CP thread as well.

TIA Smile

free skin care · Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:37 pm

Just FYI, I was curious about the new serum so I emailed JoElla Milan to see when she expects to get it in stock. Here is her response:

"The distributors just a few days ago received the announcement of the new product, so they do not have it yet. We are hopeful before Christmas."

free skin care · Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:21 am

Time2Bme.....I don't use CP so I can't speak from first hand experience, just what I assume I would do. If you use KH just once a day, let's say in the morning, then I would use CP at night. That being said, I'm sure you could use CP the same time as KH. I've read their website hundreds of times and the one thing they stress is that KH can be used in conjunction with any other serums or products. That's just my take on it. Hope you get other responses to this question.

Jom....thank you for that information. Now, I know when to look for the new serum.

free skin care · Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:17 pm

Hi Leelee !! Thanks for your response. I knew that the CP in the am and pm would probably be okay, but I was really hoping to be able to use the VAK cream after applying a CP. What I did last night was I used the GHK Serum (CP) on my chest and then used the Chocolate cream over top (after about 10mins or so). The Chocolate cream doesn't have oxygen though.

Correct me if I'm wrong ... the oxygen in the VAK creams will intensify the way the products beneath it work ?? Is that right? I think I had read that in a few posts when they were speaking about the Vit H cream. It was a little confusing, because I think people were being told conflicting information about whether to use the Vit H before VAK or after VAK.

This was the reason I was concerned. If I used the CP above VAK, I didn't know whether it would be as effective, but was concerned that using an oxygen cream after applying a CP may make it too strong ??? The CP serums on their own isn't enough moisture and I'd really like to stay with the KH moisturizers. I'm hoping that Sister Sweets responds; I know she uses both CPs and KH.

Regarding the new KH serum .... Here is a link to a Canadian distributor:
http://www.importmd.ca/en/products/face-care/erase-raise-–-er-4.html
She already has it in stock; it is $115.00. I'll definitely wait until EDS has it (hopefully they will carry it) before ordering. The link below is from a Canadian distributor of KH, so I'm assuming that is why she has it before other companies.

Does anyone know whether EDS will be carrying the new serum?

free skin care · Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:06 pm

Hi Time2Bme....thanks for the link to the Canadian website. I will be waiting for EDS to carry the new serum, but I'm always on the lookout for new Canadian places to shop. I want to email EDS and ask if they will be carrying the new KH serum soon, but so far I have not gotten around to doing it. I've had so many other things to take care of.

I'm not sure if using the oxygen on top of the CP makes it stronger, but I partly think that using the CP first makes it effective in doing what it's supposed to be doing. Using the oxygen creams first would prevent full penetration of the CP's. However, I'm not too sure about this because I don't use CP's. I use the vitamin H cream after the Oxygen creams because it does act like a moisturizer in addition to being a great nourishing cream. I don't know if the vitamin H is intensified if used first because I don't know if the oxygen creams act in the manner of pushing the actives in serums and creams further into the skin. Does this make sense? For myself, I'm just not using anything except the oxygen creams and a couple of times a week the vitamin H on top. I hope someone else will be able to give you some insight here.

free skin care · Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:15 pm

Time2Bme wrote:

Regarding the new KH serum .... Here is a link to a Canadian distributor:
http://www.importmd.ca/en/products/face-care/erase-raise-–-er-4.html
She already has it in stock; it is $115.00. I'll definitely wait until EDS has it (hopefully they will carry it) before ordering. The link below is from a Canadian distributor of KH, so I'm assuming that is why she has it before other companies.

Does anyone know whether EDS will be carrying the new serum?

Ingredients:

Aqua ; Glycerin ; Polysorbate 20 ; Alcohol denat. (denaturated: also conforms with ICCP/SASO Legislations) ; Chamomilla Recutita Flower Extract ; Tocopheryl acétate ; Hyaluronic acid ; Niacinamide ; Salicylic acid.

Why is this $115.00 for 15 ml (half an ounce)?

free skin care · Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:19 pm

Because they can get away with charging that for it? hmm

free skin care · Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:58 pm

I recently dug out my KH products, and have been using them with CP as well as vit C. Here's my routine for the past week:

AM
cleanse
Vit C (wait 10 mins)
VAK-1 (wait 5-7 mins)
moisturizer (I tried vit H, but made my skin look really yellow)
foundation w/ sunscreen

PM
cleanse
Pure Skin Formulations Bio-Copper Serum
VAK-1 (wait 5-7 min)
vit H
(might start using extra moisture at this point)

I love the PM routine; When I wake in the morning, I see tight pores, firm glowing skin, hyperpigmentation fading, and reduced redness where I have rosacea. I think the oxygen product really does help push in the serum. I tried vit H before the VAK, but for me, it seemed like the oxygen lost its "push" and the benefits were not so noticeable.

As for the AM routine, which I complete around 7 or 8 am: Around 3 or 4 pm, my skin starts to feel warm, and becomes noticeably flushed. Is it possible that the oxygen is working all that time, pushing the vit C into the skin? If so, I may have to skip the VAK in the AM, since I am not willing to give up my vit C right now.

free skin care · Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:17 am

Hi nadjazz.....the vitamin H is quite yellow because of all the Beta Carotene. I only use it overnight because of this. As for the vitamin C, the only thing I would suggest is to skip the oxygen in the morning and only use the vitamin C and see if you still get that warm, flushed feeling. If you do then you know it's not the oxygen cream that's responsible. Is vitamin C good for rosacea or could it be irritating it. I really don't know that much about vitamin C. I always found it to be quite irritating for my sensitive skin and I'm only using it now because it's an ingredient in the Choco2. But, I would just suggest the above as a way to find out what product is responsible for the flushing.

free skin care · Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:41 am

Good plan, leeleedeedee! You're right, vit C can cause problems for rosacea skin, but in my case, it usually helps. Before digging out my KH products, I was using this same vit C product with no problem. I think I will skip VAK in the mornings until I finish my bottle of vit C. I'm so excited about my results with the evening routine, perhaps I am going too fast, too soon with the VAK!

I had a sample of Chocolate cream, so I used that at the end of my evening routine last night. That provided just enough extra moisture!

free skin care · Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:07 am

Hi nadjazz....well if you've been using the vitamin C without any problems then it probably is the KH. Maybe using KH once a day would be sufficient for you. I love the chocolate moisturizer, buy the way. The chocolate smell is divine. I also find it to be quite moisturizing. More so than the sweet cream.

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