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Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:49 pm

Just an FYI that EDS added the PSF Antioxidant Booster, aka Ferulic Acid, to the store today:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/psf-antioxidant-booster-p_11290.htm

free skin care · Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:26 pm

I remember reading somewhere about how to mix the HA from SkinActives.

But I can't find it! Can someone enlighten me again? How much water to dissolve it in for the 20% Vit C serum?

free skin care · Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:48 pm

Kassy's advise: "Add the powder or liquid HA to a small amount of distilled water, stir until it forms a gel, and only then add it to your base cream"
the 'small amount' was not specified, it probably doesn't matter. I used 1/4 tsp. in mine.

free skin care · Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:00 am

Bellezza wrote:

Kassy's advise: "Add the powder or liquid HA to a small amount of distilled water, stir until it forms a gel, and only then add it to your base cream"
the 'small amount' was not specified, it probably doesn't matter. I used 1/4 tsp. in mine.

Thanks! I'll try that

free skin care · Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:38 am

I hate powdered HA, and it's even a swifter PITA to explain to folks who haven't used it before... The powder must be made into a 'gel' before incorporating it into your recipe.. To do this I just measure out the amount of HA powder that I need for my formulation (1%), and then just add a few drops of distilled water, till it's the gel consistency I want.. Then I put the gel into the water phase of whatever I'm whipping up..

I'm sure better ideas are to be had on some of the DIY websites, but that's what works for me...

I also always have a bottle of Nanci's (NCN) "HA Serum" (2oz for $48.) on hand, that's a no brainer to just add as is to many recipe's...(But don't ask for the exact amount, because I just put in a spritz or two, very scientifically.. Bad Grin

I don't use it on it's own though, because I find it too drying for me as is. Very nice in C serum!

http://www.ncnproskincare.com/virtuemart/486.html

Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:44 am

Hey folks,

Just a quick question from a newbie to the forum and definately to the DYI skincare realm, I've read through the majority of this thread and I think I might make a serum myself. In your opinion should I buy the test strips as well to make sure the ph is ok even if I'm using someone's recipe, for example one of Kassy's? Or is it safe for me to assume that the ph will be spot on as long as I follow the recipe to a T.

Thanks!

free skin care · Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:59 am

Welcome Murine!! wave

If you are placing an order for your ingredients and the PH strips are available throw them in your cart. Kassy's formulas are always bang on with ph but it is nice to have them so you can make sure your batch is correct.

Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:12 pm

Hi folks, I found the forums here when I was researching a method to neutralize the chlorine in my bathwater. I had begun to believe that I was sensitive to the chlorine in water; sometimes, my eyes would begin to water and my skin would itch while taking a bath.

I found out that a small amount of Ascorbic Acid will completely neutralize the chlorine in water, and began using this in my bathwater. I originally just crushed two vitamin c tablets into my my bath, and the difference was immediate. The dry, flakiness in my skin is gone now, and I don't itch or get watery eyes when bathing.

It also occurred to me that if it neutralizes chlorine in bathwater, it will work to neutralize the chlorine in wash water as well. I began adding two tablets to my washing machine when doing a coloured load, and another two tablets to the rinse water. My clothed don't fade anymore!

Anyway, I love what Vitamin C has done for my skin, so I've kept researdching and found the forumes here on Vitamin C serums. I just wanted to thank everyone and also share the information on chlorine and and ascorbic acid (vitamin c). It's truly worth using in bath and washwater.

Apologies if this has been posted already!

free skin care · Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:27 pm

Welcome to the Forum Pavs!
You provided some valuable information. I'll try putting 2 vit. C tablets in my bathwater also.

Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:25 am

Hi all

I want to make the vit c serum by Kassy A with the kukui oil

Can anyone tell me which website sell all the ingredients? or all have to be gathered with from different seller?

any comments appreciated.. Smile

Thanks a lot Smile

free skin care · Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:22 am

rollergal welcome wave

Here is the link to the DIY sticky - scroll down and almost at bottom is a link to the thread I started listing everyone's DIY suppliers.

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=11902

You will also find links directly to the recipes in the DIY threads.

HTH

free skin care · Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:24 am

Rollergal, I never found on that has all the ingredients. If you discover one that does, please let us know. It certainly would cut back on shipping.

Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:13 pm

Thanks for that, It's very useful those link Very Happy

Yes Tonya I was trying to cut on shipping as well... ;P let's see..

Btw, everyone keep mentioning SAS, is it skinactivesdotcom?

free skin care · Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:29 pm

rollergal wrote:

Thanks for that, It's very useful those link Very Happy

Yes Tonya I was trying to cut on shipping as well... ;P let's see..

Btw, everyone keep mentioning SAS, is it skinactivesdotcom?

Yes thats correct Rollergal the website for SAS is skinactives.com

Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:32 pm

Kassy, I read somewhere earlier in the thread, that you wouldn't recommend this serum to gals under 30s. I wonder if there's a receipe that could cater for 20s skin? Thanks a bunch Smile

Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:10 pm

Hi All...I need help with below question:

Is it the Vit E acetate or the Vitamin E 1300 IU/gram Fcc/Usp (from gardenofwisdom)? Embarassed

And also... (sorry if this sound stupid) is distilled water means bottled water that we can buy at grocery store? Embarassed

Thankss

free skin care · Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:37 pm

rollergal,
Distilled water is available at most grocery stores and drug stores, it is near regular bottled water however it has been processed to remove mineral deposits ect. to make it as pure as possible. It will be labeled Distilled Water.
As to the Vitamin E I can't answer for another's choice in a recipe, I do however have 100% pure vitamin E in liquid form, and many do use the gel caps as long as no fillers are added, I haven't seen any gel caps of vitamin E that aren't just pure E.

HTH
DM

free skin care · Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:56 am

rollergal wrote:

Hi All...I need help with below question:

Is it the Vit E acetate or the Vitamin E 1300 IU/gram Fcc/Usp (from gardenofwisdom)? Embarassed

And also... (sorry if this sound stupid) is distilled water means bottled water that we can buy at grocery store? Embarassed

Thankss

You know I have been trying to figure out which vitamin E I should be using
Vitamin E acetate or Vitamin E Dl-Alpha Tocopherol??? I currently have acetate.
On the Personal Formulator website the only difference I can see is the colour???
Does anyone know if there are differences and which one would be better to use Confused

free skin care · Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:32 am

Sorry for the cut and paste job but this may explain the different forms of Vitamin E

From:
http://www.makingcosmetics.com

Vitamin E d-alpha tocopherol
Description: Natural origin, contains low quantities of other vegetable oil constituents due to the raw materials or natural antioxidants. Clear viscous brown liquid, faint odor. Soluble in alcohol & oil, water insoluble. Activity 750 IU per 1 g solution (about 1 ml). CAS# 59-02-9.

INCI Name: Alpha tocopherol.

Properties: In products: active especially in cosmetic products but less on the skin (less stable than synthetic dl-alpha-tocopheryl acetate), ideal to stabilize oils and fats in products (prevents rancidity). On the skin: antioxidant (protects from damages by reactive oxygen radicals & UV rays), moisturizing & antiaging effect (improves skin surface relief), soothing & antiinflammatory properties, promotes epithelisation & enzyme activity.

Use: 0.5-2.5% final concentration for skin effects, 0.1-0.5% for stabilizing oils in products.

Application: All kinds of skin care products,

Vitamin E (dl-alpha tocopheryl acetate)

Vitamin E dl-alpha tocopheryl acetate
Description: Water-insoluble vitamin E formed by esterification of acetic acid & tocopherol. Purity >98%. pH 6-8. Activity: 1000 IU per 1 g solution (about 1 ml). Clear viscous yellow liquid, faint odor. Soluble in alcohol & oil, water insoluble. CAS# 58-95-7.

INCI Name: Tocopheryl acetate.

Properties: On the skin: provides antioxidant activity only on the skin (tissue esterases need first to cleave off acetate to form active vitamin E), potent antioxidant (protects from damages by reactive oxygen radicals & UV rays), increases SPF, moisturizing & antiaging effect (improves skin surface relief), soothing & anti-inflammatory properties, promotes epithelisation & enzyme activity (faster wound healing).

Use: Add to to water phase. Typical use level 1-10%.

Application: All kinds of skin care products including sun care & makeup

Vitamin E d-alpha tocopherol Is unadulterated yet less stable according to what I am reading.

You can read more on the website

HTH
DM

free skin care · Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:05 am

Just a one simple question (I couldn't find answer in discussion)
As far I know about instability of vitamin C - what kind of spoons or tools I have to use to measure and stir C-serum which I planned to make (recipe of Keliu - I think that is 15% percent of C) - metal, plastic, glass...

I think that vitamin C oxidise with metal?

And those bottles and tools - am I going to sterilise them or just wash in hot water is good enough?

free skin care · Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:47 am

*mirjana* wrote:

Just a one simple question (I couldn't find answer in discussion)
As far I know about instability of vitamin C - what kind of spoons or tools I have to use to measure and stir C-serum which I planned to make (recipe of Keliu - I think that is 15% percent of C) - metal, plastic, glass...

I think that vitamin C oxidise with metal?

And those bottles and tools - am I going to sterilise them or just wash in hot water is good enough?

I use plastic spoons and glass shot glasses. To sterilise the bottles, I put them in a larger container filled with water, then put them in the microwave for 5 minutes on high. HTH.

Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:28 am

Quote:

I think that vitamin C oxidise with metal?

--- is this true? I bought the metal spoon one ;( wrong decision Sad

My vit c serum, leave white residue when applied to skin.. like powdery.. and a bit sticky like 'salt water' when it's still wet. is this normal? So far I only mix it with distilled water and witch hazel (cos the other ingds not arrived yet)

Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:33 am

Hello -
I have been using the DIY vitamin C serum for about a week. The first two days I used it, my face stung a little bit... not too much but enough for me to know something was happening. Now, just a few days later - using the same concentration - do not have any stinging. It just feels tight.
Is this normal? Does your skin get used to it - and that is why it might be stinging less. Does thickness of skin have something to do with it (i put on back of my hand with no stinging at all)

thanks for any feedback!
I can't wait to start seeing results.

Very Happy

free skin care · Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:50 am

Thanks to EDS, I too have been using the DIY Vit C serum for about 3 months now. I'm using Kassy's 15% CE Ferulic, which is great. Next time I may try the 20% version that includes MAP.

Alchemyblooms - I find that sometimes it stings and other times it doesn't. I'm thinking that some days my skin is just more sensitive as I also use retin-a. I believe it's still working even if it doesn't sting, but it's funny, I kinda find the sting reassuring that it's doing something!

free skin care · Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:08 pm

Rollergal, I haven't had the residue problem you mentioned. Something must be wrong. It sounds like your LAA powder didn't properly disolve. I have found that if I slightly warm the water before adding the LAA, it disolves much better. Just 3-5 seconds in the micro is all you need. HTH

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