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Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:18 am |
With all due respect, I suspect that people see eyelash growth with castor oil simply because they 'want' to see results. I've used both Marvella and Castor Oil before. They never worked, and I definitely hated the idea of getting oil into my eyes, so i stopped. |
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Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:16 am |
It's just like everything else, nothing works quite the same for all..
Personally, I believe castor oil and even vaseline have *some* merit, for the simple reason, they keep the lashes moist + healthy, which in turn allows them to grow rather than break.
While I'm here, I'll just weigh in and confirm, what "semayden" has told you, that I indeed am seeing iris color changes after using Lumigan 3 X week for a year.
There is a picture posted here, on pg 2; http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=34806
For me, the slight gain in growth, wasn't worth the risks associated with this med. Also, my lashes are not as dense + healthy now as they were pre Lumigan. I also had periods throughout use, when my lashes shed quite a lot, and also *shrunk*..
I'd say for those with really inferior natural lashes, this is quite nice. For those who already have great lashes, you have nothing to gain in the long run.. (Only my humble opinion!) |
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Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:44 pm |
I do believe this product for eyelash growth will be taken off the market. I am going to buy a few extra bottles just in case. Used sparingly I think its ok(every other night, just the tiniest amount. |
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LyndaM
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Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:53 pm |
I have been using the Latisse for aproximately 2 1/2 weeks. I can't say I have noticed an improvement, but then I didn't expect to see anything so soon. I have seen a lot of friends with fantastic results--so I am sticking with it. I have been using a fine eyeliner brush and putting ONE drop in the cap of the Latisse--and applying that. I have enough and even have some to spread on my somewhat sparse eyebrows.
Re--the darkened eyelid thing---My father uses the Lumigan for Glaucoma and I noticed that eyes appear really dark. I think it is a good idea to keep it as close to the eyelash line as possible. I have brown eyes--so I don't care about the color of my Iris changing.
I ordered some Lumigan and Retin-A on July 22 from ADC. It was delivered today--they tried a couple days ago--but I was not home to accept it. FYI--my bank initially rejected the charge and after I cleared it with my bank, ADC rejected my next attempt. I did open up a separate checking account just to use for online purchases.
I am fascinated reading this forum and I am looking at trying some DIY concoctions. Thanks all for sharing your knowledge. |
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:24 am |
ricayhermosa wrote: |
With all due respect, I suspect that people see eyelash growth with castor oil simply because they 'want' to see results. I've used both Marvella and Castor Oil before. They never worked. |
I agree with you. There is a lot of wishful thinking amongst cosmetics users. The "hope in a jar" syndrome. I have heard a lot of people praise different products over the years, yet when you look at their skin or eye lashes or whatever, you can detect no visible difference what so ever - although we politely tell them they look great. Very, very few products have any detectable results. Botox is one of them. As far as lotions and potions go, Hope springs eternal.
That said, I do still like Lumigan/Latisse, but after almost 7 months of use I have to conclude that its active ingredient, Bimatoprost, is not the perfect, fool-proof beauty product I was hoping it would be. Far from it.
Although my lashes did indeed grow ridiculously long (albeit spindly and straggly), there was also the backlash (no pun intended) at about 5 months, when they started falling off again. I¨m trying to get them to grow back again now. I also have permanent purple skin discolorations ("circles") around my eyes and am often very red-eyed.
So, it's not all fantastic. |
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LyndaM
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:03 am |
Swedish_Charlotte wrote: |
[That said, I do still like Lumigan/Latisse, but after almost 7 months of use I have to conclude that its active ingredient, Bimatoprost, is not the perfect, fool-proof beauty product I was hoping it would be. Far from it.
Although my lashes did indeed grow ridiculously long (albeit spindly and straggly), there was also the backlash (no pun intended) at about 5 months, when they started falling off again. I¨m trying to get them to grow back again now. I also have permanent purple skin discolorations ("circles") around my eyes and am often very red-eyed.
So, it's not all fantastic. |
Just wondering--how often were you applying the product? Were you applying to top and bottom? and how much did you apply at one time? I was under the impression that the darkening of the lids was thought to be reversible when you stop the product? I wonder what made them fall out again? That stinks. Kinda like "Flowers for Algernon" |
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:57 am |
LyndaM wrote: |
Just wondering--how often were you applying the product? Were you applying to top and bottom? and how much did you apply at one time? I was under the impression that the darkening of the lids was thought to be reversible when you stop the product? I wonder what made them fall out again? That stinks. Kinda like "Flowers for Algernon" |
I'm applying once a day, just before bedtime (if I use it in the morning my eyes will definitely get very red that day). Never on the lower lashes anymore (since getting the disgusting "upper cheek fuzz"), and very, very little, less than a drop of liquid is enough for both eyes.
The lid darkening (well, it's more of a redness, or purple, really) has remained for me. After 4 months or so I cut down application the every other night, and that's when the lashes started to come off. I'm now back to using it every night again. But I shed a lot of lashes now. I heard of other users complaining about it, but I was fine until the 5th month or so. Now I'm in the same boat as many others.
Scroll back in this thread you will see complaints about shedding - but it doesn't seem to happen until a little later in the regimen... |
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:28 am |
Just a thought regarding the dreaded shedding. Since the natural cycle for lashes, is to shed once it reaches it's full *growth* potential, it stands to reason that the increased growth spurt caused by Lumigan, has *many* lashes reaching their limit at the same time, thus shedding noticably.
Perhaps applying Lumigan in tiny *dots* here and there along the lashline, rather than in one solid line, would allow the lashes to grow more gradually (and sporadically), and cut down on some shedding, as well as the dreaded spindly lashes.. It might help to keep a little more density this way also.
Thoughts? |
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:16 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
Just a thought regarding the dreaded shedding. Since the natural cycle for lashes, is to shed once it reaches it's full *growth* potential, it stands to reason that the increased growth spurt caused by Lumigan, has *many* lashes reaching their limit at the same time, thus shedding noticably.
Perhaps applying Lumigan in tiny *dots* here and there along the lashline, rather than in one solid line, would allow the lashes to grow more gradually (and sporadically), and cut down on some shedding, as well as the dreaded spindly lashes.. It might help to keep a little more density this way also.
Thoughts? |
Now that is interesting - except that the watery nature of Lumigan will make it difficult to apply successfully.
I know Swedish Charlotte found cutting down worsened the situation for her - but my 2 cents (today!) is all about dilution into some kind of gel. But we've been here before, and no'one is certain of which type of gel, and whether it would be compatible with the Lumigan. Aaaaagh...
I've half a mind to go with KY jelly!!! |
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:21 pm |
Since Lumigan absorbs so quickly on it's own, why do you want to involve a gel..
Wouldn't that just keep it on the lashline that much longer, and cause more irritation? |
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:47 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
Since Lumigan absorbs so quickly on it's own, why do you want to involve a gel..
Wouldn't that just keep it on the lashline that much longer, and cause more irritation? |
Kassy what I'm thinking is that even small, consecutive dots of the watery Lumigan might run into eachother - creating the one long line we're thinking of trying to avoid! |
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:08 pm |
semayden wrote: |
Kassy what I'm thinking is that even small, consecutive dots of the watery Lumigan might run into eachother - creating the one long line we're thinking of trying to avoid! |
I agree with this, semayden.
Also, the contents seem to "spread" or transfer on the skin even when the solution is dry. I certainly never put any Lumigan on my upper cheeks, yet I got baby peach fuzz there when using Lumigan on my lower lash line. Needless to say, it was ugly and looked totally bizarre. |
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:21 pm |
I like what Kassy said! ( Of course,because she rocks!)
So, anyhow,get a very very thin eyeliner brush, or if you can't find one,go to an art store and get a tiny, natural-haired one! We use these all the time in Makeup-art and modeling ( some of the best brushes are art-brushes, not makeup ones!!)
Felt tipped applicators are interesting as well. A friend of mine uses one from a liquid eyeliner makeup she ran out of. She cleaned it and uses this instead of a brush...Me,I like a tiny,thin brush!
Dotting sounds like a great idea, Kassy (But then again anything from you is usually a great idea!)
With teeny-tiny brushes or applicators, you do not waste so much product! You don't need alot!
That is why I nix my Derm's sales pitch for Latisse and get my Lumigan from AllDAyChemist!
Latisse has a brush too big,and we all know that sexier marketing/packaging is just old BS!
I use emu oil or castor oil or vaseline on the body/length of the lash and have done this since I was 12...It helps condition the hair or really/honestly prevent it from breaking as you sleep!
Once again,my AMAZING DIY MOM taught me well!
She has used vaseline or oils on her lashes since she modeled as a young woman!
I just got her into Lumigan,though! Now she's like Tammy Faye..
Nawwww...Just Kidding!
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Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:26 am |
As an FYI to everyone who using lumigan -- it appears that lumigan will be more difficult to order. All Day Chemist are now listing lumigan as "Available Via Phone Ordering" and prescription mandatory. |
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Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:38 am |
Merrylass wrote: |
As an FYI to everyone who using lumigan -- it appears that lumigan will be more difficult to order. All Day Chemist are now listing lumigan as "Available Via Phone Ordering" and prescription mandatory. |
I saw that! Arrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!! Nooooooooooo!!!!!
I swear I will be driving to Tijuana, Mexico to buy it. It was around $40 per bottle when I last checked with the farmacias. |
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Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:14 am |
Merrylass wrote: |
As an FYI to everyone who using lumigan -- it appears that lumigan will be more difficult to order. All Day Chemist are now listing lumigan as "Available Via Phone Ordering" and prescription mandatory. |
Yes, I just spoke to someone at ADC, and they do, indeed, require a Rx for Lumigan now.
They said, "This is new thing that got added to our site. So I request you to send us an e-mail at info@alldaychemist along with your issues. We will get back to you in 24 hrs. And, yes, we need the prescription."
You can still purchase it at MedsMex for $52, and at Inhousepharmacy for $40., with no Rx required. |
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Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:51 am |
And that $40 at inhouse includes shipping... |
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Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:29 pm |
Ladies, thanks for the alternative options. Hopefully lumigan (and careprost) remain available at these sites without the prescription requirement. |
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:22 am |
Thanks so much for posting this, SC. That's a great price for those needing to order right now. |
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:17 am |
So , is Carepost basically the same as Lumigan?
Anyone here using it?
It is quite a bit cheaper and I think I might try?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? |
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:14 pm |
mandapanda wrote: |
So , is Carepost basically the same as Lumigan?
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It is the same. Check the listed ingredients for yourself. Tons of on-line places sell it. |
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:16 pm |
semayden wrote: |
Thanks so much for posting this, SC. That's a great price for those needing to order right now. |
You are most welcome, semayden. |
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LyndaM
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:33 pm |
First--I have no idea about United pharmacies, but if you google them some interesting stuff pops up.
Secondly-and I hesitate to post this, because I do not want to get them in trouble. When I ordered the Lumigan from ADC on July 22 (I think), the site said prescription required, but did not mention the phone required. My order processed with neither. It wouldn't hurt to try it via phone. |
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:45 pm |
LyndaM wrote: |
First--I have no idea about United pharmacies, but if you google them some interesting stuff pops up.
Secondly-and I hesitate to post this, because I do not want to get them in trouble. When I ordered the Lumigan from ADC on July 22 (I think), the site said prescription required, but did not mention the phone required. My order processed with neither. It wouldn't hurt to try it via phone. |
I just tried it. Yes, it does require Rx now. |
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