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Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:48 pm  |
| Toby wrote: |
| My guess is since EDS is widely viewed by distributors as well as actual members the word got out quickly what was happening. This is not the first time that ebay folks got their hands slapped by the company producing the products when they got wind of it. This happened with the Stop and also Bare Minerals. |
In the past there have been other sellers on ebay in the U.S., U.K. and Singapore websites selling STF and those auctions were completed. Yes, they were not as cheap as $95.00 but one or two that I remember within the past month or two went for as low as $200. There are currently four active auctions on the UK site at this moment.
So it sounds like this had something to do with this seller. Why give the excuse that their out of stock when they stated clearly they had available ones...and even stranger is why the 20 days to ship. They should just say I am sorry but I or Ebay was contacted by the company and forced to remove the auction. That would be more understandable and would not anger customers. And if they legitimately purchased them from a supplier/manufacturer then they can sell them as cheap as they want.
When I studied international business in college it is well known that things made in China are made for pennies on the dollar. I wouldn't be suprised if the STF costed about $20 or $25 to make. If someone legally purchases them from the supplier/manufacturer for these wholesale prices then legally they can sell them for however low they want to. |
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Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:22 pm |
| lisacollins00 wrote: |
| When I studied international business in college it is well known that things made in China are made for pennies on the dollar. I wouldn't be suprised if the STF costed about $20 or $25 to make. If someone legally purchases them from the supplier/manufacturer for these wholesale prices then legally they can sell them for however low they want to. |
Totally agree. But the markets in Hong Kong are full of stuff that has "fallen off the back of a truck". Anyway, I actually don't have much faith in the ability of any of these types of devices to lift sagging skin - if it does, it will have been worth every penny I paid for it. Will report back if and when and see any results. |
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Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:44 pm |
| Bellezza wrote: |
The eBay deal did not work out. I got the following email from seller:
Firstly..i'm so sorry ,because your order item has been out and none of them is left in the stock...so i'll refund your money..
may be next months the product will be in stock..so if u need again,.I'll contact you later..
Thank for your support..i'm so sorry dear friend..
- watchesstore09
I'm highly disappointed and don't understand how they list "10 items available" and then announce they're out of stock. I was #2 to buy... Has anyone else got a similar email from them? |
I can't figure out why your order (#2) was canceled and mine (#6) wasn't. This is the email I received. I did check paypal also and there hasn't been a refund so I guess at some point in time I will be receiving it.
I need to tell,your order is in process now,
so i will tell you soon, as i shipped your item.....,
please wait. |
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Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:48 pm |
OMG! Don't tell me!!!
I'll never figure this one out.
How many people here have ordered from Watchesstore and have been told item is out of stock? Has anyone been told it's in process like Frodo? Please post your experiences with the STF listing. |
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Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:05 pm |
| Bellezza wrote: |
OMG! Don't tell me!!!
I'll never figure this one out.
How many people here have ordered from Watchesstore and have been told item is out of stock? Has anyone been told it's in process like Frodo? Please post your experiences with the STF listing. |
This is like something from the Twilight Zone.
It doesn't make sense why yours would be out of stock but someone who bought it later then you was in stock.
Maybe they found some today that "fell off the back of a truck"  and is now fulfilling the ones who did not get a refund. |
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Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:09 pm |
Lisa, was your bid cancelled?
Did you contact eBay?
And did you leave Feedbacks?
I would like to pursue this but I don't know what to do... |
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Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:23 pm |
I also got notification that my order was cancelled and the money will be refunded.
HTH |
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Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:25 pm |
| Bellezza wrote: |
Lisa, was your bid cancelled?
Did you contact eBay?
And did you leave Feedbacks?
I would like to pursue this but I don't know what to do... |
No I didn't make a bid on this.
It just seemed weird with the 20 day shipping period and then I had also heard, like one poster said, that there were some quality issues with some of the earlier models so I wondered if these were those earlier models. |
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Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:26 pm |
| sigma wrote: |
I also got notification that my order was cancelled and the money will be refunded.
HTH |
Has your money been refunded yet?
Oh by the way, for the ones who got a refund I don't know if they can leave feedback since the sale was canceled. For the ones who have been told that the sale is canceled but have not gotten a refund yet can probably still leave feedback. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:44 am |
What we know so far:
Bellezza, Sigma & Katebargold had their bids cancelled.
Frodo's bid looks like is going thru.
Can we hear from Sunshinetreasure & Toby? |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:12 am |
| I didn't get any notice and then last night I emailed him and this morning had an email that it was out of stock.Also there was a credit to my paypal. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:15 am |
| Bellezza wrote: |
What we know so far:
Bellezza, Sigma & Katebargold had their bids cancelled.
Frodo's bid looks like is going thru.
Can we hear from Sunshinetreasure & Toby? |
I was talking to a friend today who has more experience with Paypal and Ebay then I do and he mentioned that once an order is canceled it is hard to leave negative feedback with Ebay or Paypal about a transaction since it technicaly did not go through.
He also mentioned that in the past few years Paypal has become more stricter on sellers who make multiple refunds within a short period of time. It can raise a red flag that something might not be right with an account.
If I had to guess what might be going on here after talking to my friend...I would guess that since Frodo was number 6 and if I remember right there were only 6 or 7 sold right before the auction was taken down...I would bet that the seller might have sent that letter saying it would be processed to just hold off any negative feedback until they can eventually refund it without making to many refunds through Paypal in a short time period.
I hope Frodo does get one and then we can all see what the quality of it is...but I wouldn't be suprised if Frodo gets an email in a few days or a week saying that the order is canceled. If everyone who got a canelation notice has not already recived their refund then the seller must be spacing them out. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:25 am |
| lisacollins00 wrote: |
| Bellezza wrote: |
What we know so far:
Bellezza, Sigma & Katebargold had their bids cancelled.
Frodo's bid looks like is going thru.
Can we hear from Sunshinetreasure & Toby? |
I was talking to a friend today who has more experience with Paypal and Ebay then I do and he mentioned that once an order is canceled it is hard to leave negative feedback with Ebay or Paypal about a transaction since it technicaly did not go through.
He also mentioned that in the past few years Paypal has become more stricter on sellers who make multiple refunds within a short period of time. It can raise a red flag that something might not be right with an account.
If I had to guess what might be going on here after talking to my friend...I would guess that since Frodo was number 6 and if I remember right there were only 6 or 7 sold right before the auction was taken down...I would bet that the seller might have sent that letter saying it would be processed to just hold off any negative feedback until they can eventually refund it without making to many refunds through Paypal in a short time period.
I hope Frodo does get one and then we can all see what the quality of it is...but I wouldn't be suprised if Frodo gets an email in a few days or a week saying that the order is canceled. |
I just got canceled as well at 1am this morning. Here is what she said on the cancelation notice.
Note from seller
Firstly..i'm so sorry ,because your order item has been out and none of them is left in the stock...so i'll refund your money.. maybe it is in stock next month..so if u need again,.I'll contact you later..
Needless to say I emailed her back with a not so nice reply.
Oh well, maybe this is a good thing. I am wondering what made her cancel all the orders. Could she have heard from the company itself with a "cease to sell" comment. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:31 am |
Lisa, what you said makes a lot of sense.
I think they listed on a promise that whomever is manufacturing the STF in H.K. would sell them 10 or more units, then realized they wouldn't get any.
Their listing for ST abs also says 'ship in 20 days', yet some of their feedbacks say "fast shipping" |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:31 am |
| Frodo wrote: |
| Oh well, maybe this is a good thing. I am wondering what made her cancel all the orders. Could she have heard from the company itself with a "cease to sell" comment. |
I would guess it would have to be something else. If a seller legitimately purchased units from a supplier/manufacturer then they can sell them for whatever they want. Some other sellers on the UK and Singapore Ebay have gone for as low as $200 new and I am sure that the companies who sell it for $300 to $400 don't like that but they can't really do anything about it unless the seller got the items illegally or they were knowingly selling defective items. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:41 am |
| Bellezza wrote: |
Lisa, what you said makes a lot of sense.
I think they listed on a promise that whomever is manufacturing the STF in H.K. would sell them 10 or more units, then realized they wouldn't get any.
Their listing for ST abs also says 'ship in 20 days', yet some of their feedbacks say "fast shipping" |
Yeh...they probably thought they could get a certain number for a certain price and so they put it up on Ebay and probably later found out they either couldn't get them or that the price had gone up to purchase them from the manufacturer/supplier.
Either way they are not being completely honest in their reply by saying they are out of stock because I doubt the actual manufacturer is out of stock since they probably make them on a daily basis. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:43 am |
Yesterday I received the same notice that Froto posted stating that my order had been processed .
Today I received an email canceling the order and refunding my pay pal account.
Is there any way that they can get any personal or financial info from a purchase made with pay pal?
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:54 am |
It might be a good idea if we all write to customer srv. at eBay cswebhelp@ebay.com
and mention this.
I sent them an email, but only because my eBay account shows I have to pay for one item/I have to leave feedback for 1 item. If the listing has been removed my account shouldn't read that.
I doubt they can get personal/financial info from Paypal. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:57 am |
| Sunshinetreasure wrote: |
Yesterday I received the same notice that Froto posted stating that my order had been processed .
Today I received an email canceling the order and refunding my pay pal account.
Is there any way that they can get any personal or financial info from a purchase made with pay pal?
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From what I know of Paypal they only send the seller your address and contact info...they are not suppose to send any credit card or financial info...they kinda serve as a middleman who sends the money to the seller but doesn't release your financial info.
Did anyone get an actual name of the seller or was it a company name and on the paypal receipt was their contact and address information a "verified" address or a "non-verified" address? |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:01 pm |
That was a riot...her outfit was so laughable. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:56 pm |
| lisacollins00 wrote: |
That was a riot...her outfit was so laughable. |
Absolutely hilarious!!! ......but isn't that Claudia from Flexeffect!! Sorry Claudia 
On a more serious note - the model in this promo is again placing the paddles very high on the cheek area, it's very misleading, and confusing. My paddles seem to end up just above my jawline. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:51 pm |
| It is my understanding that when selling on ebay that you MUST have the product on hand and ready to ship. The seller in this case probably did not have the items and therefore told a lie regarding that she ran out. I will be emailing ebay regarding this problem. And will also mention that the seller states that shipping would accur in 20 days, which IMO is insane. Shipping in 20 days in hindsight means they don't have the item ready for shipment, let alone in their possession. |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:01 pm |
| And why did seller need our phone no? We don't even have a name... |
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:07 pm |
They did not ask for my phone number.
The name on the refund is: nur maisarah adika. |
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