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free skin care · Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:06 am

foxe wrote:

Time2BeMe

I usually only use the Suntan Lotion or Body Lotion on my chest. My face gets what ever I'm using on my face - usually the Skin Signals Serum (lately) or Super CP Serum.

I can remember going thru some huge changes back when I first started using CPs on my neck and seeing 'red' marks inside those horizontal wrinkles before they started changing. They would diminish after those red marks appeared. It was like a 'peel' had been going on. I saw those things happen for a few months, and then I stopped using CPs for a while. It's only been recently (this year) that I've seen other improvements and they've happened so slowly that I didn't notice it at first.

Foxe, thanks for your response! I found the improvement on my chest happened without me really noticing it either. I started to see some improvement with the DMAE after I had been using it for over 2 months, but the CPs definitely took it to the next level. I only noticed it when I started seeing 'new looking' skin in amongst the other skin with the lines. It was bizarre. The lines are still there in places in the morning; hopefully they will completely go .. but either way, they aren't as deep as they once were.

How do you apply the Skin Signals Serum on your face. When I use it on my chest and neck, I spray it once and spread it around. I wasn't sure how I would apply the spray on my face. I wouldn't want to waste it, but also wanted to be sure that there isn't any particular area that gets to strong a concentration.

free skin care · Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:52 am

Time2Bme wrote:

Foxe, thanks for your response! I found the improvement on my chest happened without me really noticing it either. I started to see some improvement with the DMAE after I had been using it for over 2 months, but the CPs definitely took it to the next level. I only noticed it when I started seeing 'new looking' skin in amongst the other skin with the lines. It was bizarre. The lines are still there in places in the morning; hopefully they will completely go .. but either way, they aren't as deep as they once were.

How do you apply the Skin Signals Serum on your face. When I use it on my chest and neck, I spray it once and spread it around. I wasn't sure how I would apply the spray on my face. I wouldn't want to waste it, but also wanted to be sure that there isn't any particular area that gets to strong a concentration.

It's good to hear about your improvements. Thanks for sharing.

When I apply the serums, I spray it into the palm of my hand and dabble what I need on my face. What ever is left over gets put on the back of my hands. I *think* I waste less this way.

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I usually only use the Suntan Lotion or Body Lotion on my chest. My face gets what ever I'm using on my face - usually the Skin Signals Serum (lately) or Super CP Serum

Whoops - I meant 'my neck gets whatever I'm using on my face'. Rolling Eyes

Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:15 pm

I wanted to weigh in here with my experience...I have learned so much from this forum and thought I should contribute back.

I started using the Super GHK Copper serum (the lowest concentration serum and 1st gen) this summer 3 days a week, combined with an equal amount of water and applied very lightly. For four months, I was fine - since I'm doing other things, I am not sure what was working but my skin did look better. Also, there was no instance of "uglies". After four months I noticed my skin looking loose and crinkly under my eyes. So, I stopped. After a two month break and finally looking good again, I tried applying the watered down Super GHK cp one time and not under my eyes. Overnight, the same thing happened...my skin looked loose under my eyes. I guess it travelled there from my cheeks and I should have been more careful.

I'm not bashing cp's - just weighing in on my experience. It's as if my skin just got pushed over the edge, even using the lowest concentration very lightly and infrequently. And it seems to now be very sensitive to cp's. Anyone else fine for a while and then not? I'm happy others are having success, but cp's appear to not be for me.

free skin care · Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:24 pm

Summer Time....

From my reading on Skin Biology... it seems the eye area is tricky...that some people use cp's around the eyes with success and others get aging from the practice.

I'm using cp's too with success..and the temptation is there to use them around the eyes..because we all want a lift in our eyes as well. I'm using the skin signals cream around mine...but I'm watching..because I'm afraid of wrinkling...because they are pretty wrinkle free already.

Skin Biology does warn about using serums around the eyes...that the skin is too thin. But I thought the serum you used would be fine.

Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:49 pm

hotdocgirl wrote:

Summer Time....

From my reading on Skin Biology... it seems the eye area is tricky...that some people use cp's around the eyes with success and others get aging from the practice.

I'm using cp's too with success..and the temptation is there to use them around the eyes..because we all want a lift in our eyes as well. I'm using the skin signals cream around mine...but I'm watching..because I'm afraid of wrinkling...because they are pretty wrinkle free already.

Skin Biology does warn about using serums around the eyes...that the skin is too thin. But I thought the serum you used would be fine.

Thanks for the response hotdocgirl.

My whole face was fine for so long...that makes me wonder if I developed some sort of intolerance or a reaction to the product. For the record, the rest of my face was fine. I just don't know if I want to risk getting it under my eyes again - even if only accidentally.

I knew the risks...I put the product on my own face. (And never even used it full strength because of my caution.) I'm just posting so others will be vigilant and watch their faces very carefully.

free skin care · Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:22 pm

Summer_time,
For the four months did you use only 3 days a week or did you increase frequency?

Thanks for posting about your experience.

I am currently at 3 days per week with Skin Signals Cream undiluted. (Almost a month now)

Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:46 pm

erg wrote:

Summer_time,
For the four months did you use only 3 days a week or did you increase frequency?

No...I didn't change the frequency. I was using it at night alternating with Retin-A on the other nights.

I don't want to alarm anyone...just urge caution. I wish it was still working for me.

free skin care · Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:07 pm

summer_time,
Thanks for posting. The more information we all share..the better. Everyone reacts so differently it seems. I guess only time will tell with me

free skin care · Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:35 pm

Summer_time- we appreciate your sharing your results, both good and bad.

I wonder about your tetra C/Renovage serum you use - do you happen to use it on the same time of day as the CPs or at the opposite end? Do you combine them too?

Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:53 pm

foxe wrote:

Summer_time- we appreciate your sharing your results, both good and bad.

I wonder about your tetra C/Renovage serum you use - do you happen to use it on the same time of day as the CPs or at the opposite end? Do you combine them too?

Thanks foxe.

I use vit c in the am. The CP's were in the pm. I don't use Renovage(?) and the c serums I use are either DIY LAA + distilled water or CHAS serum from Skin Actives. I don't know if tetra C is in CHAS or not.

I didn't combine CP's with vit C.

I have heard of people ramping up their usage of CP's and having problems...I just wanted to mention that I had a problem without ramping up. My skin just didn't seem to like it any more.

Our bodies can get out of balance with minerals...like too much calcium without enough magnesium. I wonder if I just OD'd on CP's and now I need something else? Bodies are so complex...

free skin care · Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:34 am

Hi Foxe,
I use a Tetra C/Renovage serum on the opposite nights that I apply CPs.

I really love the Tetra C. My skin could not tolerate L-AA.

free skin care · Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:41 am

Oops - sorry summertime. It was erg's signature that I saw w/ the tetraC/renovage in it. Rolling Eyes

free skin care · Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:58 am

Summer_time wrote:

I have heard of people ramping up their usage of CP's and having problems...I just wanted to mention that I had a problem without ramping up. My skin just didn't seem to like it any more.

Our bodies can get out of balance with minerals...like too much calcium without enough magnesium. I wonder if I just OD'd on CP's and now I need something else? Bodies are so complex...

Thanks for sharing your experience Summer_time.

free skin care · Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:14 am

Hi! A quick question and and update -

I started CPs (skin Signals Cream) the first of December. Started very slow. I am now at 3 days a week undilluted. I concentrate most of the CPs on my chest, neck, jaw and forehead - as this is where my issues are. I feel tingling on my neck and chest - but not at all unpleasant. I am starting to see slight changes on my chest. The lines are a bit smoother. I'll post another update in about a month.

Now.. my question Smile

! Has anyone tried NCNs CP Accelerator? Looks interesting. I am going to place an order for her Bio Active cream and thought about giving this a try.

Thanks everyone! You guys are the best!

free skin care · Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:43 pm

Can someone please explain what the CP accelerator is used for? Does it make the CPs work better? Thank you

free skin care · Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:31 pm

packratmack wrote:

Can someone please explain what the CP accelerator is used for? Does it make the CPs work better? Thank you

CP Accelerator is a very effective, active ingredient packed powerhouse! Best on normal/dry skin types. 15% Matrixyl 3000, 5% DMAE, MSM, Oat Beta Glucan, Pearl Powder and Carrot Seed Oil in a mostly organic base.

I'ven only used a sample of the CP accelerator and found it is much too emoliant for me. I believe it is mostly a moisturizer, but the DMAE and Matrixyl are good for firming. I have oily skin and this formula would be best for dryer skin. It has some nice ingredients in it though.

I do use Skin Bio's DMAE (Two Timing Tightener) and NCN's Matrixyl 3000 and like both of them, though. They are more serum like and better for my skin type.

erg - the CP accelerator would be a good one to try if you have the right skin type.

free skin care · Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:39 pm

Hi erg: I have been using NCN's cp accelerator for a couple of months now. I like it because it does lift my upper eyelids a bit. Can't say that I see a huge improvement other than that though.

Summer_time: I had a similar experience but I'm not sure if it was skin signals or the cold or both. I went skiing on a cold windy day after having put on my usual skin signals on my entire face, cp accelerator. When I awoke the next day, I had a huge sag on my lower right eye. I should have taken a picture - it was huge. I stayed away from all of my actives and drenched it with oils - emu, almond, rosehip - night and day and it came back completely within 3 days. I started back on the cps and because I'm doing c again I've cut back to every second or 3rd day. Hope your making out ok now. Lynn

free skin care · Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:19 pm

I would discuss with Nanci the use of the CP accelerator and how it might best benefit you.

free skin care · Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:07 pm

Ok, Just wanted to post an update...

About 6 weeks in (started first of December I believe).. and my skin is just glowing!!!

I am using CP Skin Signals 4X per week undiluted and 12% AHA cream 3X per week. I started both at the same time. Wooo! It is so good to start seeing results. I am hoping that in addition to the glow, I will start seeing some lift in my lower face. I think that will take a bit more time.

Anyway, lovin it so far!

free skin care · Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:11 pm

Thank you for the update! AND CONGRATS on your success!!!!

Waiting to hear more - keep us up to date.

Gidget

free skin care · Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:54 pm

Ditto on the thanks and congrats erg! Dancing

Did you ever dilute the SS Serum in the beginning?

free skin care · Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:05 pm

Hi Foxe,
For the first and a half I applied emu first and only used 3X per week. Now, at 4X per week undiluted. I am loving it!!!!
Smile

free skin care · Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:34 pm

erg wrote:

Hi Foxe,
For the first and a half I applied emu first and only used 3X per week. Now, at 4X per week undiluted. I am loving it!!!!
Smile

Very glad to hear that it's going so well for you erg! Smile

I hope I am as lucky when I start mine (may be crazy but waiting for RA to arrive)!

free skin care · Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:38 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

erg wrote:

Hi Foxe,
For the first and a half I applied emu first and only used 3X per week. Now, at 4X per week undiluted. I am loving it!!!!
Smile

Very glad to hear that it's going so well for you erg! Smile

I hope I am as lucky when I start mine (may be crazy but waiting for RA to arrive)!

You might want to start using one with out the other first, DM, so you can see if that one is doing anything first. Give it a month or so on its own, first?

free skin care · Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:55 pm

I would not combine r-a and cp's initially. For your first few weeks I would cleanse, use cp product (dilute maybe for the first few weeks) and then use some form of BHO over it. I don't care for emu myself so I use baobob, hemp or marula oil. If you are using the TTT you can use this over the cp's but even that I might wait on for a week or so.

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