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Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:54 pm |
hazelwood160 wrote: |
I think so because when i was using la roche posey 50+ i still got new pigmentation. |
I also developed more hyperpigmentation when I used the La Roche sunscreen. |
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Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:02 pm |
I have just purchased the Burnout Clean & Clear and the Kid.
Both leave white cast on my skin.
I have tried using a couple of moisturizers and oils underneath before applying the sunscreen, but the result is the same - white cast.
Also, after cleansing I have exfoliated my skin (microfiber cloth & AHA acid) well.
Any suggestion for me to make the sunscreen as invisible as possible? |
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Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:37 am |
summer2004 wrote: |
I have just purchased the Burnout Clean & Clear and the Kid.
Both leave white cast on my skin.
I have tried using a couple of moisturizers and oils underneath before applying the sunscreen, but the result is the same - white cast.
Also, after cleansing I have exfoliated my skin (microfiber cloth & AHA acid) well.
Any suggestion for me to make the sunscreen as invisible as possible? |
Hi Summer - Does the whiteness persist after 30 minutes? For me, it soaks in at that point and no longer looks white. I do have to rub it in pretty well. I've used the Ocean and the Clean and Clear.
Maybe try some tinted powder after it soaks in to mask the white? |
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Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:09 am |
Many thanks for this recommendation. I'm def. gonna try this stuff...
And additional thanks for the UVA/B graph...
I've been using Juice Beauty's Body Moisturizer (spf 20) with 2.5% Titanium Dioxide... but looks like that doesn't cover enough of the spectrum??
(it is really nice though!) |
_________________ Claudia of FlexEffect... 43, fair skin, occasional breakout, Using ECO FROG (my own=disclaimer), and TrueScience (I also sell this)... Happy with that...Come visit on FB! |
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Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:23 am |
ShastaGirl wrote: |
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Hi Summer - Does the whiteness persist after 30 minutes? |
Yes, it is still there all day long |
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Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:12 am |
summer2004 wrote: |
I have just purchased the Burnout Clean & Clear and the Kid.
Both leave white cast on my skin.
I have tried using a couple of moisturizers and oils underneath before applying the sunscreen, but the result is the same - white cast.
Also, after cleansing I have exfoliated my skin (microfiber cloth & AHA acid) well.
Any suggestion for me to make the sunscreen as invisible as possible? |
How much do you use and how dark is your skin tone? |
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:27 am |
oasisjc wrote: |
How much do you use and how dark is your skin tone? |
Hi Oasisjc,
I didn't measure how much I use. What I do is to apply a thin layer of Burnout & then I press it on my skin.
My Skin tone is light yellowish. |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:50 am |
I have been become quite confused by all the vast amount of info out there regarding sunscreens. After having trawled the threads here and on the web I finally decided to try burnout, then I found out from their website that it contains vitA which from the ewg one they say it should Not be in a suncare pfoduct! So I plumped for Invisible Zinc ( U can get it in the UK)SOOO confused especially when trying to get the best one for Wee ones!!
Is there anyone out there who has resolved the sunscreen and vitA debate! Or is everybody else having to make a compromise too |
_________________ 46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:39 am |
summer2004 wrote: |
I have just purchased the Burnout Clean & Clear and the Kid.
Both leave white cast on my skin.
I have tried using a couple of moisturizers and oils underneath before applying the sunscreen, but the result is the same - white cast.
Also, after cleansing I have exfoliated my skin (microfiber cloth & AHA acid) well.
Any suggestion for me to make the sunscreen as invisible as possible? |
Have you tried shaking the tube thoroughly? Perhaps it's just been left *sitting* for too long. |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:48 am |
10Sylvia5 wrote: |
I have been become quite confused by all the vast amount of info out there regarding sunscreens. After having trawled the threads here and on the web I finally decided to try burnout, then I found out from their website that it contains vitA which from the ewg one they say it should Not be in a suncare pfoduct! So I plumped for Invisible Zinc ( U can get it in the UK)SOOO confused especially when trying to get the best one for Wee ones!!
Is there anyone out there who has resolved the sunscreen and vitA debate! Or is everybody else having to make a compromise too |
I just looked and there's definitely no Vit A in their sunscreens?
Fromwww.burnoutsun.com
BurnOut Eco-Sensitive Zinc Oxide Sunscreen SPF 32
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%
Other Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Capric/Capryllic Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrical (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Soybean Lecithin, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Aloe Vera, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Citric Acid.
BurnOut Ocean Tested Physical Sunscreen SPF 30+
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%
Other Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Capric/Capryllic Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Glyceryl Stearate SE, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrical (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Virgin Hemp Seed Oil, Sorbitan Stearate, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Xanthan Gum, Ascorbyl Palmitate (Vitamin C).
BurnOut SPF 30+ KIDS Physical Sunscreen
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%
Other Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Capric/Capryllic Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Glyceryl Stearate SE, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrical (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Sorbitan Stearate, Arabidopsis Extract, Plantago Lanceolata (Plantain) Leaf Extract, Carica Papaya (Papaya) Fruit Extract, Plankton Extract, Xanthan Gum, Ascorbyl Palmitate (Vitamin C). |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:26 am |
circus wrote: |
......Have you tried shaking the tube thoroughly? Perhaps it's just been left *sitting* for too long. |
Good idea!
I thought that it was not necessary, thus, I did not do it. |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:38 am |
10Sylvia5 wrote: |
I have been become quite confused by all the vast amount of info out there regarding sunscreens. After having trawled the threads here and on the web I finally decided to try burnout, then I found out from their website that it contains vitA which from the ewg one they say it should Not be in a suncare pfoduct! So I plumped for Invisible Zinc ( U can get it in the UK)SOOO confused especially when trying to get the best one for Wee ones!!
Is there anyone out there who has resolved the sunscreen and vitA debate! Or is everybody else having to make a compromise too |
Burnout scores a 1 on EWG... that's a good thing...
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/product/330833/BurnOut_Kids_Physical_Sunscreen%2C_SPF_30%2B/ |
_________________ Claudia of FlexEffect... 43, fair skin, occasional breakout, Using ECO FROG (my own=disclaimer), and TrueScience (I also sell this)... Happy with that...Come visit on FB! |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:35 am |
yeah it does have a good score, so why does it say on their website at the side "WHy burnout is so good for you" that they contain vit A alongside vit e and hempseed oil????
If the contents list doesnt say it contains Vit A why does it so on that part of their website?
Stii confused |
_________________ 46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:04 pm |
10Sylvia5 wrote: |
yeah it does have a good score, so why does it say on their website at the side "WHy burnout is so good for you" that they contain vit A alongside vit e and hempseed oil????
If the contents list doesnt say it contains Vit A why does it so on that part of their website?
Stii confused |
Their website has so much stuff on it...
Can you point us to the webpage that says it has Vit. A in it? I just can't see it...
ALSO... Our whole foods had it on sale for $12.99 a tube!!!!! |
_________________ Claudia of FlexEffect... 43, fair skin, occasional breakout, Using ECO FROG (my own=disclaimer), and TrueScience (I also sell this)... Happy with that...Come visit on FB! |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:16 pm |
ClaudiaFE wrote: |
10Sylvia5 wrote: |
yeah it does have a good score, so why does it say on their website at the side "WHy burnout is so good for you" that they contain vit A alongside vit e and hempseed oil????
If the contents list doesnt say it contains Vit A why does it so on that part of their website?
Stii confused |
Their website has so much stuff on it...
Can you point us to the webpage that says it has Vit. A in it? I just can't see it...
ALSO... Our whole foods had it on sale for $12.99 a tube!!!!! |
EXCELLENT |
_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:18 pm |
Well, I just saw it...
Ok... Here's what EWG says:
http://breakingnews.ewg.org/2011sunscreen/sunscreens-exposed/the-problem-with-vitamin-a/
And then it does say on Burnout's page to the right under their "suncare info" tab:
Why BurnOut is So Good for Your Skin
by BurnOut Suncare Staff
Most importantly - it protects your skin from harmful UVA and UVB rays. Our skin has an uncanny ability to show age. UV damage can make your skin - and you - look older than you really are. That's right...UV Damage is NOT your friend.
Aside from being the best sunscreen on the planet, what else makes BurnOut so great, you ask? BurnOut sunscreens are enriched with aloe vera and antioxidant vitamins A & E to nourish and replenish dry, sun-damaged skin.
HOWEVER: When you read their ingredient lists I don't see "Retinyl Palmitate" anywhere on the list. And that list is supposed to be definative as to what's actually in there...
SOOOOO: I just sent them an e-mail asking if Vit A is in any of their products, which ones, and by what name on their ingredient list..
I'll post the response when I get it! |
_________________ Claudia of FlexEffect... 43, fair skin, occasional breakout, Using ECO FROG (my own=disclaimer), and TrueScience (I also sell this)... Happy with that...Come visit on FB! |
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:07 am |
hey Claudia, you are brill
Thank you for taking the time out to take notice I am really looking forward to the response, I was beginning to think I had been seeing things |
_________________ 46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say |
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Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:13 pm |
summer2004 wrote: |
oasisjc wrote: |
How much do you use and how dark is your skin tone? |
Hi Oasisjc,
I didn't measure how much I use. What I do is to apply a thin layer of Burnout & then I press it on my skin.
My Skin tone is light yellowish. |
Don't be afraid of rubbing it in. First apply a layer all over and then keep massaging your face /stroking/rubbing/whatever (there's no precise word for this!) until your skin doesn't look white anymore. There's a misconception out there that rubbing a sunscreen deactivates it or something.
The only issue there is if you use the bare minimum of sunscreen to start with and half of it is absorbed by your hands. Just sunscreen your hands first and then make sure to use enough sunscreen for the skin you need to cover and rub away.
If you're still having issues, apply a bit of a tinted product such as elta md physical *over* the zinc sunscreen you're using. I've tried a lot of high zinc oxide sunscreens and I have to say that Burnout's whiteness is pretty minimal. The only high zinc oxide sunscreen I've tried that's better in this respect is Devita. |
_________________ 24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:29 pm |
Hi Nimue,
One colleague of mine has been using Elta MD and shares me some (good enough for 2 applications).
One application is to use directly on Burnout; not much difference is noticed in terms of whiteness.
Another application is to follow what you're doing: Devita, Burnout & Elta MD. I found that the amount of whiteness has reduced much; however, the drawback is that Devita makes my skin very shiny and look oily; it further enlarges my already-huge-pores to an exaggerated extent. |
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Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:09 pm |
Did you try rubbing in the burnout until the whiteness totally goes away? Wait until it's completely gone before layering in the tinted product (such as elta). You could also use a drop of foundation/concealer that's darker than your skin tone but in the same color family and mixing it with burnout in the palm of your hand so it'll be like foundation or tinted sunscreen.
If the greatest issue right now is the shinyness of the Devita, then wait for whatever devita you use to totally absorb before applying the layer of burnout. Burnout's so matte that it should take care of devita' shiny tendencies. And I guess don't use that much devita since you'll be following it up with burnout anyway for the sun protection.
This is sunscreen application troubleshooting- I like it!
summer2004 wrote: |
Hi Nimue,
One colleague of mine has been using Elta MD and shares me some (good enough for 2 applications).
One application is to use directly on Burnout; not much difference is noticed in terms of whiteness.
Another application is to follow what you're doing: Devita, Burnout & Elta MD. I found that the amount of whiteness has reduced much; however, the drawback is that Devita makes my skin very shiny and look oily; it further enlarges my already-huge-pores to an exaggerated extent. |
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_________________ 24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:30 pm |
Hello!
I am new to the forum and am trying to educate myself about natural sunscreen. I am going to Mexico in a month and I really would like to get a tan while I am there and not burn. I am interested in natural sunscreen and am considering buying Burnout Clean & Clear. I just have a few concerns...because it has a high amount of zinc and zinc blocks the sun, does that mean my skin won't tan? I have very oily and acne prone skin and am wondering how easy it is to wash Burnout off? I heard it is very water resistant and if I'm applying it to oily, acne prone skin I do not want it sitting on my skin and not be able to wash it off (and I do not want to scrub my skin if I'm sitting in the sun all day).
Perhaps someone with more knowledge about Burnout could help out with my questions? I would greatly appreciate it!
Thank you |
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Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:00 pm |
Yes, if you apply enough of the burnout and if you reapply it every time you come into contact with water or sweat it off, you won't tan or burn. If your goal is to tan then you can just apply it in places that burn quickest and use that much of it everywhere else. Or you can first tan and then apply the burnout to prevent any further sun damage. Up to you.
Yes it has some water resistance (the ocean tested has the most water resistance, that's what I prefer for the summer) but it's not truly waterproof and it washes off fine with water, you don't have to scrub.
sunshine1686 wrote: |
Hello!
I am new to the forum and am trying to educate myself about natural sunscreen. I am going to Mexico in a month and I really would like to get a tan while I am there and not burn. I am interested in natural sunscreen and am considering buying Burnout Clean & Clear. I just have a few concerns...because it has a high amount of zinc and zinc blocks the sun, does that mean my skin won't tan? I have very oily and acne prone skin and am wondering how easy it is to wash Burnout off? I heard it is very water resistant and if I'm applying it to oily, acne prone skin I do not want it sitting on my skin and not be able to wash it off (and I do not want to scrub my skin if I'm sitting in the sun all day).
Perhaps someone with more knowledge about Burnout could help out with my questions? I would greatly appreciate it!
Thank you |
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_________________ 24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:51 am |
Actually honestly if you're new to natural sunscreen, just apply what seems reasonabl/comfortable to you on your face and upper body (face, neck, chest, upper back, and shoulders). Don't forget the tops of your feet- those will burn. Since you're new to physical sunscreen most likely you won't apply that much and you won't reapply *every* single time you get in the water so you'll tan fine. This is the safest option...
Nimue wrote: |
Yes, if you apply enough of the burnout and if you reapply it every time you come into contact with water or sweat it off, you won't tan or burn. If your goal is to tan then you can just apply it in places that burn quickest and use that much of it everywhere else. Or you can first tan and then apply the burnout to prevent any further sun damage. Up to you.
Yes it has some water resistance (the ocean tested has the most water resistance, that's what I prefer for the summer) but it's not truly waterproof and it washes off fine with water, you don't have to scrub.
sunshine1686 wrote: |
Hello!
I am new to the forum and am trying to educate myself about natural sunscreen. I am going to Mexico in a month and I really would like to get a tan while I am there and not burn. I am interested in natural sunscreen and am considering buying Burnout Clean & Clear. I just have a few concerns...because it has a high amount of zinc and zinc blocks the sun, does that mean my skin won't tan? I have very oily and acne prone skin and am wondering how easy it is to wash Burnout off? I heard it is very water resistant and if I'm applying it to oily, acne prone skin I do not want it sitting on my skin and not be able to wash it off (and I do not want to scrub my skin if I'm sitting in the sun all day).
Perhaps someone with more knowledge about Burnout could help out with my questions? I would greatly appreciate it!
Thank you |
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_________________ 24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:08 pm |
I just wanted to say that every time I apply the Burnout sunscreen, I get compliments on how great my skin looks. My dermatologist always complimented my skin, and asked what I used, and I would tell him nothing, just sunscreen. I never thought much of it until today when my friend told me my skin looked really good, so I put 2 and 2 together, that every time someone complimented my skin, it is because I applied the Burnout sunscreen. I think the white color from zinc oxide helps to make my skin look good somehow. It hides uneven skin tone well I think. She said my pores also are tight. I don't know if that was from Burnout or the IPL though. |
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Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:45 am |
I am still thrilled with my Burnout also!
We lost our chart on SS protection so I am posting new ones I found:
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