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Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:35 am |
Molly wrote: |
Did your skin ever recover fully mtview?
Molly |
I would like to know that, too. |
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:38 pm |
Hi guys! Newbie here!
I'm wondering if anyone tried Obagi because of an acne problem? I started using it last week to treat my acne problem and hyperpigmentation.
It's been ok so far... My face is pretty red (I'd like to think of it as a rosy hue... ) and I'm peeling like crazy. I'm hoping I'll get out of these phase soon because it just ain't that pretty!
I don't think I have additional breakouts *after* starting to use Obagi but my existing pimples (tiny ones) didn't really go away either. My friend told me that my skin texture does appear to be better (aside from the constant peeling... eww) than before, so I'm patiently waiting for the end results.
I'm using the full system now
- gentle cleanser
- toner
- clear
- exfoderm (for AM)
- blender + Retin-A (for PM)
- sunfader SPF15 (for AM)
But since it's summer time I'm thinking that Sunfader's not gonna gimme the protection my very fragile skin will need. Anyone has any recommendation what to use?
I have combination skins and I hate the greasy feeling that most sunscreen give ya after applying a thick layer of it...
Thanks in advance!!
Sharon |
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:56 pm |
kenchunk wrote: |
Molly wrote: |
Did your skin ever recover fully mtview?
Molly |
I would like to know that, too. |
Hi Molly and kenchunk,
My face eventually recovered from flushing 5-6 months after I stopped obagi. Thanks for asking. It was an expensive lesson for me. I think I spent a total of $500 for consultations and products.
I do know some people who had great results from obagi. Guess the system was just not meant for me |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:36 am |
Sweatreat,try obagi SPF 35.Its a great sunscreen and a good moisurizing product.And not oily.
To those questioning whether this system is right for you,here are some of my insights.[for what they are worth]
First,I,m a nurse, but I don't work in skin care, but I do understand anatomy and physiology. With the Nu-Derm system you are actually forcing your skin to renew.You are forcing your body to grow new, more supple and elastic skin.The skin of our younger days. Over the years we build up a thick,horney,outer layer of "old"skin. This is why our pores our larger,and we don't have the tone or glow of our youth.And of course, those ever annoying wrinkles.
This miserable outer layer must come off, to encourage the new layer to grow.[same principle as derma-brasion,which helps remove it, but the obagi products STIMULATE the new growth.
There are no other products that I know of, that are as targeted to regenerating newer skin that I have found.There is no other product that actually penetrates enough to really do anything but apply a cosmetic[temporarily plump up the eyes, etc] effect.
I didn't realize how bad my skin was, until I saw my before and after pictures.I have always taken good care of my skin, and used quality products. I didn't go for Obagi, I was thinking of botox, cause I'de seen some brow lines starting.[fortunately, I've never had an acne problem] The MD said I didn't need botox, but that Obagi would take care of my. problem,and freshen my skin .I was skeptical, but left with the products.
The system is harsh at first. I was miserable, like the rest of you. My face hurt,was beet red,felt hot and peeled. It was horrible.But, boy am I glad I stuck with it. I can't believe the difference. And when I saw those pictures, I was shocked.A major change.
You have to be committed, and patient.It takes a good 6-8 weeks to exfoliate that horrible outer layer and have the new more supple layer grow in.No more enlarged pores, no more wrinkles or puffy eyes,[it improves the circulation under the eyes,which gets rid of all those eye problems and actually helps with sinus drainage under the eyes due to the increased circulation. That youthful tone and glow return.
I can always spot an Obagi face. There is a big difference.Most plastic surgeons and their staffs use this system. As a nurse, I know the difference between an OTC product and a presciption product. And I work with doctors daily, and know they they wouldn't be using it if it didn't produce such remarkable results.
From my understanding, the acne that it produces[accept in some true allergic reactions, which are relativly few], is old gunk, bad cells and improperly functioning cells that need to be exfolliated. So the new and healthier cells can come in to play.
So IMO if your wanting to try this system it is well worth the initial discomfort. Use the control products to help with the discomfort, be patient, and don't expect overnight results. Plan on about 2 months of transition. Use common sense,and back off if you become too uncomfortabe, and USE the control products.You're not going to fix years of damage overnight.
Good luck! |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:39 am |
Ooops, thats Sweetreat, not Sweatreat!I'm soo sorry |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:48 am |
Oh, and I did develop some acne too, which upset me, as I'd never had it before.It almost caused me to quit.[along with the pain and beet-redness!]But I'm soooo glad I stuck with it,and its been several years now, and I don't buy all kinds of OTC products that don't really work![but I do still buy ridiculous gadgets for my face, but I can't give up everything!] |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:33 pm |
mtview wrote: |
I do know some people who had great results from obagi. Guess the system was just not meant for me |
Hi, so you didn't get any positive results from Obagi?
czarina wrote: |
Oh, and I did develop some acne too, which upset me, as I'd never had it before.It almost caused me to quit. |
Hi, how long did your acne last and how long did you take to recover from them?
Sorry for asking so many questions and thanks for your time |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:37 pm |
czarina wrote: |
Sweatreat,try obagi SPF 35.Its a great sunscreen and a good moisurizing product.And not oily.
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Thanks czarina, I'll give that a try.
Your comments are very encouraging though. I'm going through the ugly phase right now and it depresses me a little. Last night I didn't put on anything right after I washed my face and once my face got dry... OMG, I looked horrible! My entire face is so flaky it looks like I'm covered in dust or something. My redness is not so bad anymore (or maybe I've gotten used to it), but the peeling part is NUTS. I can even see tiny pieces flying off from my face as I walk...
I'm still pretty confident this will turn out good. But because of all this peeling I'm staying away from most social activities... I guess the side effect of this process is to make one anti-social... But it won't be long until I show my friends my 'renewed' face! |
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:26 am |
I've been on the Obagi since May the 20th, about 10 weeks and am still peeling and flaking at intervals. I'm 53 and used to be an avid sunbather and waterskier, so I guess I have a lot to take care of. IMO, I believe the Obagi system is the best thing I've ever done for my skin. You can actually see where the thickness in the skin is being done. My eye area is just starting to do a big, big improvement, as well as my neck. They say these areas take longer. The improvement in my skin and texture has been and is worth the continuing redness and peeling. |
_________________ Susan, 53, blonde, hazel eyes, light |
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:35 pm |
It's been another week since my last post!!
The progress is seriously AMAZING. I don't peel as much anymore and my face actually has a nice pinkish hue (not red, yay!). I still have some freckles and breakouts (which were there before I started Obagi) but my cheeks are really smooth now. I'm so excited with the change!! Can't wait to see what it'll be like later on! |
_________________ in the name of beauty |
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:34 pm |
Hi! Sorry it took me so long to reply,I was having problems with my password. So glad you are having positive results.
The other advice I'd give is to go easy with the retanin A. Sometimes I would just use 1/4 retanin A with 3/4 blender. The retanin A is what really causes all the redness and peeling.So back off on it,using a smaller ratio, untill your skin adjusts.
Something else I did, although this was not advised,was to use a dry wash cloth, and gently buff my face when it was really peeling alot.This helped to get rid of alot of the loose skin.And the SPF 35 also works as a great moisturizer,and helps smooth out the dry flakes that didn't come off with the washcloth buffing.
I wear face base over my retanin A,Estee Lauder double wear,which is a heavier base.[I work nights,and use my retanin A while at work] and if the peeling was bad, I'd buff with the wash cloth, and then touch up with the base if needed.
I'm really glad you are having good results.The most important thing is to use common sense.Because the system is hard at first,and can be painful.Remember to go EASY with the retanin A.Or even stop with it for a couple of days,so your face doesn't hurt.I always carry some Action,[which is a control product,to STOP the process],in my purse.
I guess the most important thing I have to say is use the retanin A carefully.I think that is where most people go wrong, they use too much, and it becomes very painful,and unsightly,and then they quit.
Your face WILL eventually adjust and then tolerate the retanin A, and its smooth sailing from there! |
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:45 pm |
mtview wrote: |
kenchunk wrote: |
Molly wrote: |
Did your skin ever recover fully mtview?
Molly |
I would like to know that, too. |
Hi Molly and kenchunk,
My face eventually recovered from flushing 5-6 months after I stopped obagi. Thanks for asking. It was an expensive lesson for me. I think I spent a total of $500 for consultations and products.
I do know some people who had great results from obagi. Guess the system was just not meant for me |
You have me for company. Obagi is absolutely the very worst thing I've ever done to my skin. Prior to trying it a few years ago, I already knew my skin didn't tolerate Retin-A well. Instead, I had been using Renova (milder than Retin-A) for awhile and my derm suggested I continue using that in place of Retin-A during the Obagi regime. So that's what I did, and followed Obagi's recommended dosages for a conservative approach.
I started peeling within a few days, which I expected. The peeling continued and worsened over the next 6-8 weeks, which I also expected. However, what I did NOT expect was for the peeling, redness and iritation to continue for months and months. Which is what happened. At the time, I was on the YTF board and everyone there told me this must just be because I had so much sun damage. I was advised by other users that this prolonged peeling/irritation was actually a GOOD thing and I should just use Obagi calming products and keep toughing it out because the results were going to be so worth it. Wrong. After nearly 6 months of peeling and skin inflammation (I know, I was stupid), I finally gave up on Obaji.
I don't have a single good result to report for all the trauma. In fact, it took another 6 months to get my skin to look as good as it did *before* I used Obaji. Now, some 2 years later, my skin is much more sensitive and easily irritated than it was prior to abusing it with Obaji (plus the broken capillaries I didn't have before this).
I know a lot of people have had excellent results with Obagi. But, if I could suggest only one thing, it would be that if you try it? listen to your skin. If the peeling and irritation last more than a couple of weeks, this product may be causing longterm or permanent damage to your skin. |
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:16 pm |
kenchunk wrote: |
mtview wrote: |
I do know some people who had great results from obagi. Guess the system was just not meant for me |
Hi, so you didn't get any positive results from Obagi?
Sorry for asking so many questions and thanks for your time |
Hi kenchunck,
Sorry I didn't see your question til now. The answer would be no. I had absolutely no positive result from obagi. |
_________________ ~~ super-sensitive, dry, dermatitis prone, rosacea/northern calif ~~ |
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:21 pm |
lonevoice,
{{hug}} Finally someone who knows what I went through Glad to hear that your skin is finally back to normal. |
_________________ ~~ super-sensitive, dry, dermatitis prone, rosacea/northern calif ~~ |
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Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:27 am |
Obagi did nothing for me. I used for 3 months, all the products, highest strength of Retin A. I, opposite of most, got minor flaking only. My skin got oiler, and nobody could figure out why. No improvement in my skin at all. Had an allergic reaction to HQ (could not figure out what was making my asthma sooo bad until I stopped this for a peel, which is when my asthma improved overnight). Also, the skin on my chin (both sides of my chin) got a "wrinkly/droopy" look that has not improved after stopping this stuff. All this obagi is, is Retin A, Hydroquinone and a mild AHA (phytic acid in Exfoderm 8%, glycolic in Exfoderm Forte 10%). I was using this for diminishing wrinkles (which I was told after I started would take at least 1 year), and to even skin tone, diminish freckles. I think it works for people who have not used these particular products before, but for others who have been on AHA, Retin A and even the HQ, I don't think they get the "dramatic" results. |
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edenramos
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:46 pm |
Hi everyone, just want to ask your opinion about obagi. I'm on my third week now with this product and i'm using the whole set of obagi but without the retin-a. Will i have good results even without the retin-a? I know that I may not experience any peeling or redness because i'm not using retin-a with the blender. My acne are still coming out, i know that i am still on my initial stage but just can't wait to get good results. Hope you can give me some info and advice.thanks!!!! |
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:38 pm |
edenramos wrote: |
Will i have good results even without the retin-a? I know that I may not experience any peeling or redness because i'm not using retin-a with the blender. My acne are still coming out, i know that i am still on my initial stage but just can't wait to get good results. |
If you're not using Retin-A, I don't think you'll see a difference in your acne. The cleanser and toner don't really have acne fighting ingredients, and the Clear, Blender and Sunfader are lightening products. |
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:25 am |
Ive been looking at the Obagi system. Im 38 and look so much older because of sun damage and smokers skin. I have awful wrinkles around my eyes, lips and forehead. My whole face just seems to have lost elasticity. Would something like the Obagi system be good to help reduce and prevent more wrinkles. I live in the Uk so dont know if i can get it here
kindest regards
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:04 pm |
Personally, Obagi has been the best thing I've done for my skin. It's taken some time, but my upper eyelids are firming, my neck is getting firmer (still needs some work) and the hyperpigmention continues to get better each week. I use the Retin-A 0.1%. I still have days of flaking and have about another 12 weeks to go before I go on the maintenance regimem but it has been worth every penny and will continue on it for a long time to come. This is my 11th week on Obagi and the results have been amazing. Some days are better than others, you just have to be patient. |
_________________ Susan, 53, blonde, hazel eyes, light |
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:01 pm |
my sushi secret wrote: |
edenramos wrote: |
Will i have good results even without the retin-a? I know that I may not experience any peeling or redness because i'm not using retin-a with the blender. My acne are still coming out, i know that i am still on my initial stage but just can't wait to get good results. |
If you're not using Retin-A, I don't think you'll see a difference in your acne. The cleanser and toner don't really have acne fighting ingredients, and the Clear, Blender and Sunfader are lightening products. |
Thanks for your reply. Can I get Retin-A from EDS (w/o a prescription) just can't find a derm doctor here. I ordered my Obagi Nu-derm solution from them just wondering if i could get the retin-a from them also. thanks, pls. respond. |
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:44 am |
salster68 - I will tell you what my nurse told me, to diminish the wrinkles, you will need to be on this system for at least 1 year. Just thought I would share what the nurse told me! |
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:17 am |
This is a completely stupid question, but what does Rein-A help the aid of? I see a lot of you girls put this on in the evening before bedtime. |
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:00 am |
edenramos wrote: |
Thanks for your reply. Can I get Retin-A from EDS (w/o a prescription) just can't find a derm doctor here. I ordered my Obagi Nu-derm solution from them just wondering if i could get the retin-a from them also. thanks, pls. respond. |
You can't get it without a prescription in the US, but someone on another board got hers online from another country. It sounded kinda sketchy when I asked, but she's been using it for awhile and had no doubt it was real and effective; I can send you the link.
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This is a completely stupid question, but what does Rein-A help the aid of? I see a lot of you girls put this on in the evening before bedtime. |
Retin-A peels off layers of skin; people use it for acne and I think it does something for wrinkles. |
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:45 am |
It definitely helps with the wrinkles and helps to firm the neck area. You have to mix it with the Blender to get all the benefits. I alternate with using the Obagi and the ReVive eye and moisturing cream recipe on my off day from the Retin-A. 11 weeks and many more to go (at least 18 more weeks)!! But my skin definitely looks younger already in this short time. Pores are smaller, skin tone more even. Everything looks worse for a while though. Patience is essential when using the Obagi system...don't stop it short. |
_________________ Susan, 53, blonde, hazel eyes, light |
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:08 am |
my sushi secret wrote: |
edenramos wrote: |
Thanks for your reply. Can I get Retin-A from EDS (w/o a prescription) just can't find a derm doctor here. I ordered my Obagi Nu-derm solution from them just wondering if i could get the retin-a from them also. thanks, pls. respond. |
You can't get it without a prescription in the US, but someone on another board got hers online from another country. It sounded kinda sketchy when I asked, but she's been using it for awhile and had no doubt it was real and effective; I can send you the link.
Hi my sushi secret, didn't respond right away got tied from work. Anyway, thanks for responding and i will appreciate it very much if you could send me the link. I'm on my 4th week now with obagi and even w/o using retin-a, i can see an improvement on my skin. I think that this is really a good product.thanks.
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This is a completely stupid question, but what does Rein-A help the aid of? I see a lot of you girls put this on in the evening before bedtime. |
Retin-A peels off layers of skin; people use it for acne and I think it does something for wrinkles. |
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