ACV rinse question?
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free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:20 am

Just wondered if anyone knew how often you can rinse with ACV when you wash your hair

I tried this the other night and I loved the way my hair felt after

. I tend to wash my hair everyday and wondered if using ACV everytime would be too much

I'm sorry if this question has come up before, but I couldn't find the answer for looking.

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:19 am

what's ACV? Confused

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:24 am

It's Apple Cider Vinegar. I found this in the EDS DIY skincare.

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:13 am

oh yeah sorry!!
Oh my god, you put it on your hair?! Shock

I didn't know you could do that. what does it do?

Sorry, I'm not helping with your question at all! Embarassed

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:22 am

I got an apple cider vinegar too. I've only used it on my hands so far, didn't have the courage to put it on my hair.
Instead of helping with your question, can you tell me if it smelled after rinsing your hair? Thanks a lot.

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:27 am

I use my ACV hair rinse approx. once a week. I don't really put anything on my hair so I don't need to use it often. Becareful if you use it too often though, it WILL dry out your hair. It's supposed to be used between your shampoo and conditioner, so I guess it just depends on how often your hair can take.

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:29 am

That's ok. Basically, I got it from this. It really did make my curly hair feel clean and bouncy.

• To remove styling product buildup: you can create your own clarifying shampoo by adding a couple tablespoons of apple cider vinegar or lemon juice (this will also help enhance any blond highlights in your hair!) to any bottle of shampoo. The result: super-shiny, squeaky clean hair with no more product buildup! Note: you can also add the ACV or lemon juice to your fave conditioner, as well.

• To prevent hair color from fading: you can create your own "color-safe" shampoo and/or conditioner by adding a couple of tablespoons of apple cider vinegar to any bottle of shampoo or conditioner to prevent your expensive, salon-color from fading too fast (especially hair that is dyed red!). It prevents hair dye from fading because hair dyes are alkaline and the ACV is acidic, so it helps seal the cuticle by normalizing the PH balance of your hair!

And if you're hesitant to try adding ACV to your shampoo or conditioner because you worry about the smell, I promise that your hair is *not* going to smell like a salad -- you can actually hardly smell the ACV in your shampoo because it's usually masked the the fragrance in most typical shampoos, and even then, once you rinse the shampoo from your hair, the smell is gone anyway.

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:34 am

No, it didn't smell after I used my conditioner - but it does pong while you're rinsing with it.

carmenlu wrote:

I got an apple cider vinegar too. I've only used it on my hands so far, didn't have the courage to put it on my hair.
Instead of helping with your question, can you tell me if it smelled after rinsing your hair? Thanks a lot.

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:36 am

Thanks for this reply, I did wonder if it was drying.

sormuimui wrote:

I use my ACV hair rinse approx. once a week. I don't really put anything on my hair so I don't need to use it often. Becareful if you use it too often though, it WILL dry out your hair. It's supposed to be used between your shampoo and conditioner, so I guess it just depends on how often your hair can take.

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:29 am

After reading your post I wonder, you add the ACV to your shampoo? I use an ACV rinse (John Masters), I also have one from Earth to Body which only cost me 8CAD for 250mL which has similar ingredients as my JM. I'm generally too lazy to gather ingredients and DIY. The rinse does dry hair out, but if you add it to shampoo/conditioner it might not as I've never done it that way. Basically my hair feels a bit like straw (not that bad, but similar).

I think if you add it to your shampoo/conditioner, it might be okay to use it everyday. I guess bottom line is listen to your hair Very Happy

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:57 am

I do ACV rinses all the time. I don't like to put it in my shampoo since I don't shampoo. I mainly use it to clarify my color and I love it. It leaves it clean and soft. I probably do this rinse about 2-3 times a week. If I really want to clarify any buildup I use a baka soda rinse about once a week.

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:36 am

I do have to use a lot of products to define my curls (curls rock by tigi, shampoo, conditioner, leave in moisturiser and curl definer). When I decided to use the ACV, what I did was to shampoo once, then pour the mixture over the shampooed hair, rub this in then rinse and condition, rinse, add moisturiser and definer, then leave hair to dry naturally. Sounds long, but acutally only takes about 10 minures. Results - super bouncy curls Very Happy

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:48 am

Sharon,

For an extra oomph for those curls...try a honey rinse after your ACV rinse. It'll make those babies bounce and perky Very Happy

. I love my honey rinses!

free skin care · Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:21 pm

ariesxtreme wrote:

Sharon,

It'll make those babies bounce and perky Very Happy

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First of all, my mind is just in the gutter... Laughing

Secondly, I just made my own clarifying shampoo with ACV. One part ACV two parts shampoo. I'm afraid to use straight ACV as my hair is dry dry dry. I use this once a week and it's a gentle way to get rid of any buildup.

My mom, who has oily hair, uses ACV shamp everyday with no bad consequences. (I got her started on it after I commented on how flat and brassy her blonde hair looked. She doesn't like to spend $$ on hair stuff so when I told her just to dump some vinegar in her shampoo, she was all about it, and her hair looks so much better).

free skin care · Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:31 am

Thanks for the tip. I will definately give it a go Smile

ariesxtreme wrote:

Sharon,

For an extra oomph for those curls...try a honey rinse after your ACV rinse. It'll make those babies bounce and perky Very Happy

. I love my honey rinses!

free skin care · Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:49 pm

sormuimui wrote:

After reading your post I wonder, you add the ACV to your shampoo?

Those were my ACV tips that were posted above. To answer your question, Yes, I do add ACV directly to both my bottle of shampoo and my conditioner as it helps me maintain my color-treated hair (ACV is an absolute must for anyway with red color-treated hair). I use these everyday and don't have any problems with excessive dryness except when I dye my hair too often (i.e.: every 2-3 weeks)....

free skin care · Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:59 pm

ariesxtreme wrote:

If I really want to clarify any buildup I use a baka soda rinse about once a week.

I’ve done some research into the benefits/dangers of using baking soda on one’s face and/or hair and this is what I found out:

I found this particular statement from a forum devoted to long hair (note: it might have been “The Long Hair Community,” but at this point I no longer remember):

Baking soda's alkalinity is as high as that of haircoloring products although I realize that the amount or application method makes if more or less harsh depending on how baking soda is used.

I say, leave the baking soda for household cleaning. I apologize if I sound put off by the baking soda on hair thing, it's just that there are so many wonderful cosmetics out there, ones that smell lovely and are pleasant to use, that I have difficulty understanding how something like baking soda could appeal to anyone for use in their haircare routine.

Here is a link for the pH of BSoda (I think it's the same one I posted yesterday in the vinegar thread): http://www.kernsite.com/uwp/modules/pH/pH.htm)

The first sentence is the one that gets me: baking soda is as alkaline as hair dye?!?! What that basically means is that it is doing to dilate the hair cuticle in a similar manner as a hair color developer or perming solution. And when the hair cuticle is dilated, guess what happens to the previously deposited hair color pigment? Buh-bye –down the drain it went! Shock

I used to use baking soda + shampoo for a super-clarifying treatment before I put two and two together and realized what was going on. I have a hard enough time keeping my red color-treated hair bright and vibrant for longer than a month without helping the fade-age along....

Just something to mull over!

P.S. And don’t even get me started on the perils of using baking soda to cleanse or exfoliate one’s face!! Confused

free skin care · Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:25 pm

carekate wrote:

P.S. And don’t even get me started on the perils of using baking soda to cleanse or exfoliate one’s face!! Confused

Did this once.. man it was bad.. I do like the texture of the baking soda, very fine, not harsh like microdermabrasion crystals, but it really really stings your skin Embarassed

free skin care · Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:15 pm

i do the rinse a few times a month. it keeps my scalp itch free and gets rid of any scalp problems. i don't condition on the days i do ACV rinse. when i do a ACV rinse (i fill an empty shampoo bottle with half ACV and half water) then just dump it on my head in the shower with my eyes shut tight (it's acid). i don't rinse my hair after this, but just towel dry it. my hair smells a little bit but then when it dries, no smell. i haven't tried adding it to my shampoo like carekate says, but i might try that.

free skin care · Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:05 am

miranets wrote:

carekate wrote:

P.S. And don’t even get me started on the perils of using baking soda to cleanse or exfoliate one’s face!! Confused

Did this once.. man it was bad.. I do like the texture of the baking soda, very fine, not harsh like microdermabrasion crystals, but it really really stings your skin Embarassed

Yeah, most people that have used baking soda to wash or exfoliate their face assume the reason that it stung so badly afterwards was because they had scrubbed their faces too vigorously with the baking soda, but that assumption would be wrong, wrong, wrong!! The reason it stung like hell afterwards is because you tore away the protective layer of your skin!

Because baking soda is extremely alkaline, and as such, when applied to one’s skin – especially the delicate skin on one’s face – it completely and utterly destroys the natural acid mantle of one’s skin.

“Big deal,” you scoff?! This acid mantle helps to maintain the delicate PH-balance of the skin. When this acid mantle has been disturbed or removed, it raises the risk of bacteria and infection getting into the flesh that you inadvertently rubbed raw by cleansing/exfoliating your face with a little sprinkle from that box of Arm&Hammer!

Y’all can believe me or not regarding what baking soda can do to color-treated hair, but please, please, for the love of your lovely faces, do a little research of your own regarding the dangers of using baking soda on your face.

In the meantime, save that box of baking soda and use it to kill the odors in your cat’s litterbox or keep your refrigerator/freezer smelling fresh and/or to dissolve the gunk in pipes of your kitchen sink, but – FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY – please don’t use it anywhere near your skin!!

And while I’m at it, stay away from St. Ives Apricot Scrub, too! That stuff should come with a warning label and everyone who suffered microscopic tears to the skin on their faces (like me, when I was a wee young pollywag and didn’t know any better) should ban together in a class-lawsuit and sue those Swiss for every last watch, cuckoo clock and bit of chocolate in their entire country!! Wink

But let’s get back to the subject of ACV: it’s the one multi-purpose, multi-tasking beauty product that no girl should ever be without! I keep a bottle in my kitchen to use in the dishwasher (in lieu of JetDry to make dishes spot-free), use on minor burns, sprinkle on a damp towel and swing about the room to dispel heavy smoke or cooking smells from kitchen disasters plus a multitude of other uses which have completely slipped my mind for the moment.

And I have a separate bottle of ACV to keep in the bathroom to use as a facial toner, pimple-dryer, hair clarifier/glosser, pour into a tub of tepid water in which to soak to soothe a sunburn, swipe over my tips and toes to remove oily residue and/or soapscum and to prepare them for a fresh coat of nail polish. You can mix a little bit of ACV with honey and use it as a gargle to soothe a sore throat and kill the bad germs causing the infection!

For an extra special treat to make hair super-shiny and full of body, try an ACV+Honey rinse for your hair! Simply mix 1/4-cup ACV with a 1/4-cup of honey and a quart of very warm water. Shampoo and condition your hair as usual, then pour the pitcher of ACV/honey water over your hair and DO NOT RINSE! Obviously you want to do this while you’re still standing in the shower so you can rinse any ACV/honey water from your body, but do not rinse it from your hair. Simply towel dry and style your hair as usual.

Personally, I mix ACV *and* honey directly into my tub of conditioner so I don't need to take the additional step of performing a rinse. The added benefit is that the ACV keeps my dyed red hair from fading out too quickly and the honey not only gives shine but imparts lots of body as well. Honey is also a humectant that draws moisture to the hair which is great if you’ve got severe dryness.

All right, this concludes today’s “Susie Homemaker” lecture. Tune in tomorrow for another exciting installment....

Razz

free skin care · Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:12 am

P.S.

skincareaddicted wrote:

i do the rinse a few times a month. it keeps my scalp itch free and gets rid of any scalp problems.

FYI - the reason ACV helps keep the itchy scalp at bay is because a lot of times that itching is caused by a sort of yeast infection and the ACV kills the yeasty bacteria. Here’s some info I posted about this subject a while back in a different thread:

carekate wrote:

moosette wrote:

I've had a really bad scalp problem for some time now,its very itchy and irritated, I have scab like crusts and major flaking, it is so gross! Please help, if anyone has had something similiar, let me know what you have done to help control this! I can't stand it anymore, and now that I'm pregnant it seems to be worse than ever! Sad

I posted this info in another thread where someone was begging for scalp relief....

carekate wrote:

Here's some homemade hints for dandruff and itchy/flaky scalp which I cut & pasted from the ~~~ DIY Skincare Recipes ~~~ thread:

carekate wrote:

Homemade Hints for Hair Care:

• Itchy/flaky scalp: Add 25 drops of 100% pure Tea Tree Oil and 15 drops of Peppermint essential oil and 5 drops of Rosemary essential oil to a bottle of your fave shampoo and shake well to make a homemade version of Paul Mitchell's Tea Tree Special Shampoo at a fraction of the cost. You can also add a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar, which helps kill the yeast that causes some forms of dandruff.

• Prevent Oily Hair and Scalp: Add 30 drops of Clary Sage oil to your fave bottle of shampoo and/or conditioner to help control the production of sebum (oil), and to help fight dandruff.

• Promote Hair Growth: Add 30 drops of Rosemary essential oil to your fave bottle of shampoo and/or conditioner to help stimulate the scalp, promote hair growth and/or help fight dandruff or seborrhea.

What Moosette is describing sounds suspiciously like a yeast infection (some forms of dandruff are actually caused by yeast). If you don’t try any of the other suggestions above, I really recommend that you try using the apple cider vinegar. You can either mix a tablespoon in with your shampoo and/or conditioner or you can use pour an ACV rinse over your scalp after shampooing/conditioning (do not rinse it out!). Do this for a couple of days and see if it doesn’t help relieve the itchy crusting on your scalp. The best part about this homemade remedy is that it’s completely safe for both baby and you!

*Please* give this a try: I am 99.99% sure that the ACV will relieve – if not completely resolve – your crusty scalp issues within a couple days use! And I’d be willing to bet that you probably have a bottle of ACV sitting in your cupboard right this minute! And, if not, send hubby out to the grocery store straight away – tell him he can find a bottle of ACV in the aisle where they keep the condiments and salad dressings.

True story: I used to get the same sort of scalp symptoms that you described above if I went more than a day or two without shampooing my hair. It was really disgusting because when I’d come down with one of my marathon migraine attacks that knocked me out of commission for a few days, the last thing I felt like doing was washing my hair. When I finally felt better, I would have to shampoo 2-3 times using Neutrogena T-gel shampoo and scrub really hard against my scalp with the pads of my fingers just to remove those crusty patches.

It finally dawned on me a couple of weeks ago, when I had finally got back on my feet following an almost 2-week cluster migraine episode during which time I was only well enough to shampoo my hair once during that time, that I no longer get the crusty-itchies if I don’t shampoo every single day and I realized that the only explanation for this was the fact that I’ve been adding a couple of tablespoons of ACV to my (full) bottle of shampoo. I was including the ACV in my shampoo to help safeguard my color-treated hair, but I honestly think it give me the added benefit of canceling out the yeast, or whatever it was, that was causing those horrible scaly patches on my scalp.

For the record, ACV also has other benefits for hair, other than killing the yeast fungus (is it a fungus, or a bacteria?). It helps to maintain color-treated hair so there is less fadeage. It helps clarify to remove buildup from excess product usage and it helps impart an incredibly beautiful shine! In fact, if I ever had to give one hair-care hint to everyone it would be the add-a-tablespoon-of-ACV-to-your-shampoo-bottle trick because it will benefit every hair type or hair woe!

Just another reason why ACV is the little cheapest little beauty miracle product under the sun!

free skin care · Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:44 pm

I used my new SLS free shampoo (with ACV added in it) this morning. There was no smell after I rinsed my hair.

My hair felt soft and when I am touching it now, I don't feel any build up on it

I am waiting for Biolage conditioning balm to arrive and then will add the ACV and honey as per Carekate's suggestion.

free skin care · Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:01 am

Ninetynine wrote:

I used my new SLS free shampoo (with ACV added in it) this morning. There was no smell after I rinsed my hair.

My hair felt soft and when I am touching it now, I don't feel any build up on it

Yay! I'm glad it worked for you.

Ninetynine wrote:

I am waiting for Biolage conditioning balm to arrive and then will add the ACV and honey as per Carekate's suggestion.

There is one caveat I want to add for anyone thinking of trying the honey rinse or honey+conditioner trick:

Anyone with “poufy” hair (i.e.: super curly and/or prone to frizzing when there’s lots of humidity in the air) might not want to utilize the honey trick. The reason is that honey is a “humectant” which means that it draws and retains moisture. The thing is that humectants aren’t particular about from where they draw that moisture so if there is a lot of humidity in the air, it’ll draw THAT moisture into your hair and make it even more poufy and badly behaved – at least that is the experience that a couple of other EDS members have reported in the past.

On the other hand, if you’ve got thin/flat/limp/lifeless hair then I HIGHLY RECOMMEND incorporating honey into your haircare routine because in addition to moisturizing and giving shine, it also adds incredible amounts of body. I’ve noticed on days when I use a different brand of conditioner (i.e.: not my Biolage Cond Balm with added honey mixed in), when I style my hair afterwards it just doesn’t “do” as well. There’s just a little something missing that makes it look less full and healthy....

free skin care · Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:39 am

I've started using shampoo bars and an ACV rinse is suggested to help prevent funky hair. I tried the rinse once but couldn't get past the smell. I'll have to try adding honey to the acv and see if that works better.

free skin care · Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:53 am

Just to make doubly sure I won't be either ruining my shampoo or my new red hair dye, I can add ACV to Dove or Alchemy shampoo with no negative consequences?

Would a table spoon of ACV be sufficient to every 100ml? Or should it be more or less? Very Happy

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