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Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:29 pm  |
I just received this e-mail from the Sederma company. They are a leader in anti-age raw materials including Matrixyl, Dermaxyl, and the anti-stretch mark ingredient Regestril:
Want to prevent 5 years of skin ageing in 6 months?
Dear John:
Prevention is usually easier and less painful than the cure. If we knew then, what we know now, we would have taken better care of our skin while we were young. Unfortunately, “prevention” is difficult to sell. While there is now increased use of sunscreens by young people, sunscreens are not enough to prevent and protect our skin from environmental ageing.
Perhaps the reason “prevention” is such a hard sell is because it is difficult to clinically demonstrate the preventive ageing effects of skin care products. The only way to convince people to better protect themselves is with the use of compelling evidence that shows “prevention” actually does reduce skin ageing.
In an effort to supply such evidence, Sederma recently developed a method to demonstrate the preventive ageing effects of VENUCEANE™ (a thermus thermophillis ferment) on individuals who recently relocated to an accelerated skin ageing environment. Preliminary results of this study were published in the June 2006 issue of SOAP, PERFUMERY & COSMETICS (SPC), in a SKIN CARE, Anti-Ageing article entitled: Potential Preventive Performance.
While this article provides only the preliminary results of the study, the newest data generated by this study shows that VENUCEANE™ prevented the ageing of the skin by 5 years, compared to that of the placebo, under these accelerated conditions.
I am going to order a reprint of the study and see if there really is scientific evidence to prove the anti-ageing claim. I'm also going to do some further research on Venuceane.
Thought I would give you all a heads up on this so that you can watch for it in commercial products when it becomes available.
John |
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:15 pm |
| Looking forward to it...there was also an article in Allure about a new anti-oxidant..coffeeberry extract..coming out in 2007 for Revale Skin. Sounds promising..how many times have we said this before? |
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:33 pm |
| Hi John - Can you give us some insight as to what "thermus thermophillis ferment" is? And perhaps what other kind of treatment would be analogous to it that's on the market today (unless it's totally unique of course). |
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:14 pm |
| I haven't a clue what it is, but I know it is one of the principal actives in G.M. Collin Dermo Intervention Bota-peptide 5 Concentrate. I noticed because I was given a very generous sample of this product recently. I haven't used it though, so I can't comment on its effectiveness. |
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Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:55 pm |
| Skinactives is coming out with a Coffeeberry cream. |
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mid 40's, Hawaiian/Japanese, combo skin, med/dark complexion. "If life hands you lemons, throw them at your enemies" |
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:32 am |
According to the CTFA dictionary:
Thermus Thermophillus Ferment is a bilogical product. It is a skin conditioning agent made from bacteria, fungi or other single cell organism.
The only people making this is Sederma with the product name of Venuceane. It appears to be unique and nobody is making something similar.
I'll have more detail when the article reprint shows up here. I'll keep you informed.
John |
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:54 am |
| Thank you John. It sounds disgusting enough to make me suspect there may be something to it. |
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:21 pm |
| Sounds interesting. |
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:28 pm |
Sounds great!  |
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:18 pm |
| Yes! Do let us know! |
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:44 am |
| John C. Hill wrote: |
According to the CTFA dictionary:
Thermus Thermophillus Ferment is a bilogical product. It is a skin conditioning agent made from bacteria, fungi or other single cell organism.
John |
I know nothing about this product but your description immediately makes me think it could originate from a mushroom. I will be interested to hear what it is. Just hope it is a good bacteria as we spend so much money ridding our skin of bacteria. |
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Skin: Over 60, ex combination now sensitive, Cellcosmet |
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:55 am |
I did some searching online & apparently this is a bacterial genome capable of genetic manipulation through modulation of DNA & enzymatic activity:
http://www.microbialcellfactories.com/content/3/1/5
I would imagine that the main mechanism of action would either be as an MMPi or MDI. But this is just a guess on my part - I haven't been able to find anything on it's methodology of action. If this is just another bioengineered MMPi or MDI complex, then I will be disappointed. There are already many such actives available in the industry and all work by a similar mechanism. Hopefully this is something new & novel. What do you think John? Preventing 5 years worth of skin aging in 6 months is a pretty strong statement!
-Darren |
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:23 am |
| Pbsadhaka, thanks for those links but the second one does not seem to work. |
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Skin: Over 60, ex combination now sensitive, Cellcosmet |
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:46 am |
Sorry! Try this one & see if it works. If not, if you use the "Site Search" function & type in "thermus" as a keyword, it'll bring up the article.
http://www.cosmeticsbusiness.com/story.asp?sectioncode=7&storycode=673
-Darren
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| Pbsadhaka, thanks for those links but the second one does not seem to work. |
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:06 pm |
| Yes! Would be very interested in knowing more |
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:31 am |
| Really interesting |
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Wed May 28, 2008 1:52 pm |
I can't believe I'M on the cutting edge of technology  I've been pushing and using SVR 50 for at least 1 1/2 yrs now. It is truly the only HG product I use that I can say with certainty I will be using 'til I go where I don't need s/s anymore  I'm just incredulous that this isn't more popular. |
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46, curly dk blonde hair, fair, blue eyes, very oily T-zone. HGs: Tazorac .05% gel; Avene/Bioderma s/s (very high spf AND ppd); Cellbone vit Cie 20%; Cellbone Hyperpeptides; IFP 5% bha/10% aha; Obagi Clear; 'curly girl' method (no poo, just co wash) for my 3b curls. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 4:39 pm |
tsjmom,
Do you think the SVR s/s helps any more than any other spf50 S/S?
Can you tell me what the S/S ingredients are? (Physical or chemical)
I'm really interested in this! Where do you find it??
tx
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Wed May 28, 2008 5:39 pm |
| fawnie wrote: |
tsjmom,
Do you think the SVR s/s helps any more than any other spf50 S/S?
Can you tell me what the S/S ingredients are? (Physical or chemical)
I'm really interested in this! Where do you find it??
tx
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Fawnie - it's a PHYSICAL s/s with a PPD 20 - very difficult to find. It has the perfect skin color tint for my fair complexion (rarely need concealer) to act as a s/s and a foundation. It leaves a dewy, fresh finish (not shiny and greasy).
You can get it at skincarecentral.biz or beautyplatinum.com. |
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46, curly dk blonde hair, fair, blue eyes, very oily T-zone. HGs: Tazorac .05% gel; Avene/Bioderma s/s (very high spf AND ppd); Cellbone vit Cie 20%; Cellbone Hyperpeptides; IFP 5% bha/10% aha; Obagi Clear; 'curly girl' method (no poo, just co wash) for my 3b curls. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 5:59 pm |
| fawnie wrote: |
tsjmom,
Do you think the SVR s/s helps any more than any other spf50 S/S?
Can you tell me what the S/S ingredients are? (Physical or chemical)
I'm really interested in this! Where do you find it??
tx
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SVR 50 Tinted All-Physical Sunscreen SPF 50, PPD 20
Ingredients: Aqua (Purified Water), Cyclomethicone, Titanium Dioxide, Glycerin, Hexyldecyl Stearate, Zinc Oxide, Caprylyl Dimethicone Ethoxy Glucoside, Hexyldecyl Stearate, Sodium PCA, Sodium Chloride, Tocopheryl Acetate, Polyglyceryl-4 Isostearate, Alumina, Methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Thermus Termophilus Ferment, Cyclomethicone, Quaternium-90 Bentonite, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Alcohol, Potassium Sorbate, Phenoxyethanol, Glycerin, Methylparaben, CI 77491 (Iron Oxides), CI 77492 (Iron Oxides), CI 77499 (Iron Oxides)
(3% Thermopherol antioxidant complex)
http://www.skincarecentral.biz/suncreen-SVR50B.html |
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Wed May 28, 2008 6:09 pm |
I don't understand the meaning of "prevent 5 years of aging in 6 months"
So, you use the product for 6 months, and then for 6 months and 4 years you don't age?? |
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Thu May 29, 2008 9:11 am |
for got to add that
Thermopherol 3% =(Thermus thermophilus ferment 1% + Tocopherol acetate 2%) |
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Thu May 29, 2008 12:18 pm |
| This is a very interesting thread. Im always finding out new things which is wonderful. Just when i think i know about anti ageing, anti oxidant etc someone posts wonderful information. |
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