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Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:20 pm  |
| januarui wrote: |
2. I only saw three kinds of ingredients listed in here-- （1）oils to keep moisture. (2)silicon to make the feeling of use good. (3) paraben.
Can anyone tell me which ingredient there is doing its anti-aging job? |
| januarui wrote: |
| What are people expecting of their products in terms of formulation.....? |
ok, after reading back i think i missed your point first...
you mean, valmont (as an example) might have just ingredients with an immediate effect on the skin only, while you are expecting something what - in addition - has some "slow-down-aging-process" function 
to be honest, and i feel a little embarassed, i have never thought about this point...
my moisturizer and serum works very good on me, but it has just "old-fashioned" ingredients (such not best known or popular for anti-aging products)..
so - what you are saying is, that these (immediate) improvements are not enough, as there are more efficient ingredients, which slow down the whole anti-aging process
edited: your last posting i didnt see when i wrote this one... but - it refers to this point as well, i think... |
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:36 pm |
| The point is we know too little about life science that we can not do some precise experiments or some difficult experiments. A good example is medical treatments, now if someone goes to see a doctor, he/she basically gives him some drugs which has only one or two components supposed to treat diseases. Has anyone got such a drug that none of the components will work individually but combination will. And we all know that medical and biological researches are way more scientifically developed than skincare industry (imagine how much researches going on there and how many publication s on Pubmed).If medical researches haven't reached that point, how could assume Valmont will? Ａｎｄ why Swiss has so many famous, expensive skincare lines? That is because Swiss has good biological researches there. So the final point is Biological and medical researches PLUS ancient medicines are the basis of skincare industries. If biological and medical sciences haven't reach that level, you had better not rely on skincare researches. |
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:41 pm |
| Hi, racheli, I think if you go to those elegent skincare lines' ad, you will always find them saying my products are supposed to be anti-aging or make you look younger. So if they are just doing some moisture or good feel jobs, why do we bother spending hundreds of $$$ on them, why not buy a drugstore product? They built up a dream for us that we can fight aging, then the reality is that we are just treated with some basic moisturizers, except they are more pleasant to use. |
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Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:11 am |
| why is Triclosan added to many of the creams? what is it supposed to do there? |
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Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:30 am |
| Aiva wrote: |
| why is Triclosan added to many of the creams? what is it supposed to do there? |
i guess act as an antibacterial...i have heard lotts of people being very sensitive to this...like their skin shedding from using an antibacterial soap with triclosan in it. |
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Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:35 am |
| edenfield wrote: |
| Aiva wrote: |
| why is Triclosan added to many of the creams? what is it supposed to do there? |
i guess act as an antibacterial...i have heard lotts of people being very sensitive to this...like their skin shedding from using an antibacterial soap with triclosan in it. |
hm.. but what is antibacterial ingredient added to, say, Eye&Mouth Contour cream for? 
or to Regenetic (hydrating) cream? |
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Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:18 am |
| who knows...it doesn't have any benefits to the skin. could be being used as a preservative but they already have parabens |
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Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:38 pm |
Sourced fromwww.cosmeticscop.com
triclosan. Good antibacterial agent used in many products, from those for oral hygiene to cleansers (Sources: Federation of European Microbiological Societies Microbiology Letter, August 2001, pages 1–7; and American Journal of Infection Control, April 2000, pages 184–196). However, whether triclosan is effective for treatment of acne has not been researched. There is also controversy over whether or not triclosan may contribute to creating strains of bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics due to its overuse in cosmetic products. There also is concern about whether, in practical use, it can in fact impart the benefits of disinfection indicated on the label (Source: Journal of Hospital Infection, August 2001, Supplement A, pages S4–S). |
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Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:50 am |
so that`s why I`m asking! - is Valmont Eye&Mouth Contour cream supposed to be disinfectant? 
and Regenetic hydrating cream also! |
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:42 am |
thank you for the link havana!
I like it less and less and would stay away from Valmont`s products containing it  |
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:07 pm |
| Aiva wrote: |
thank you for the link havana!
I like it less and less and would stay away from Valmont`s products containing it |
It did put me off seeing the ingredient list, I almost finished Valmont's DNA repair serum and 24 hour cream,and I am not going to repurchase them as they are just so so for me. I did love the renewing pack for a while but it's too expensive. |
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:49 pm |
| I have used Valmont's Hand Lotion and Body Lotion for over a year. While I don't expect them to provide any anti-aging benefit, they do provide everyday relief and are soothing for my post-menopausal body skin. As far as this goes, Valmont to date has been superior to other products on my body. |
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Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:59 pm |
| dlynne9 wrote: |
| I have used Valmont's Hand Lotion and Body Lotion for over a year. While I don't expect them to provide any anti-aging benefit, they do provide everyday relief and are soothing for my post-menopausal body skin. As far as this goes, Valmont to date has been superior to other products on my body. |
I have to agree with you on Valmont hand products. Both the hand cream and treatment have been updated and EDS is now stocking them. I have already added them to my next order and can't wait to try them. |
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Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:06 pm |
| januarui wrote: |
I won't buy Valmont products in the future after I saw all the ingredients listed here.
1. DNA and RNA won't work to do either anti-aging or anti-pigmentation et al. As they are readily degraded by DNase and RNase ever existing in the environment. The degradation products are nucleotides which is a nutrient that everyone's body can create themselves.
2. I only saw three kinds of ingredients listed in here-- （1）oils to keep moisture. (2)silicon to make the feeling of use good. (3) paraben.
Can anyone tell me which ingredient there is doing its anti-aging job? |
totally agree with you!!! According to the ingredient list, it can only be a nice balanced chemical mixture instead of being a miracle |
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Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:57 am |
These are the ingredients for most of the Valmont Hair Repair products:
Valmont Hair Repair Regenerating Cleanser
Water (Aqua), Sodium Laureth Sulphate, Stearic Acid, Peg-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Sodium Lauryl Sulphate, Sodium Myristyl Sulphate, Panthenol, Butyrospermum ParkII (Shea Butter), Keratin, Mannitol, Pterocarpus Marsupium Bark Extract, Pantolactone, Sodium DNA, Hydrolized Keratin, Magnesium DNA, Calcium DNA, Urea, Hydrolyzed RNA, Glutamic Acid, Sodium Cetyl Sulphate, Potassium Hydroxide, Sodium Chloride, Laureth-10, Sodium Hydroxide, Sodium Stearyl Sulphate, Polyquaternium-10, Disodium EDTA, Mica, Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Tin Oxide (CI 77861), Phenoxyethanol, Chlorphenesin, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben, Fragrance, Disodium Succinate, Benzyl Salicylate, Alpha Isomethyl Ionone, Hexyl Cinnamal, Linalool, Limonene, Citronellol, ButylPhenyl Methylpropional.
Valmont Hair Repair Restoring Mask
Water (Aqua), Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetyl Esters, Dimethicone, Glycerin, Butyrospermum ParkII (Shea Butter), Panthenol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Cetearyl Isononanoate, Peg-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Polyquaterium-10, Panax Ginseng Root Extract, Keratin, Mannitol, Pterocarpusmarsupium Bark Extract, Acetyl Tyrosine, Arctium Majus Root Extract, Arginine, Calcium Pantothenate, Hydrolysed Soy Protein, Peg-12 Dimethicone, Zinc Gluconate, Sodium DNA, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Magnesium DNA, Pantolactone, Calcium DNA, Urea, Citrulline, Glucosamine HCL, Niacinamide, Ornithine HCL, Hydrolyzed RNA, Biotin, Glutamic Acid, Sodium Citrate, Polyquaternium-11, Citric Acid, Phenoxyethanol, Chlorphenesin, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben, Fragrance, Disodium Succinate, Benzyl Salicylate, Alpha Isomethyl Ionone, Hexyl Cinnamal, Linalool, Limonene, Citronellol, ButylPhenyl Methylpropional.
Valmont Hair Repair Sublimating Serum
Cyclopentasiloxane, Water (Aqua), Cyclomethicone, Dimethiconol, Caprylyl/Capryl Glucoside, Sodium Cocoyl Amino Acids, Panthenol, Potassium Dimethicone Peg-7 Panthenyl Phosphate, Sodium DNA, Magnesium DNA, Calcium DNA, Keratin, Mannitol, Pterocarpus Marsupium Bark Extract, Urea, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Palmitoyl Myristyl Serinate, Pantolactone, Hydrolyzes RNA, Glutamic Acid, Glycerin, Sodium Hydroxyethyl, Acrylate/Sodium Acryloyldimethyl, Taurate Copolymer, Propylene Glycol, Peg-8, Lauric Acid, Mica, Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Disodium EDTA, Peg-8/SMDI Copolymer, Sodium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Chlorphenesin, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Propylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Potassium Sorbate, Fragrance, Disodium Succinate, Benzyl Salicylate, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Hexyl Cinamal, Linalool, Limonene, Citronellol, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Benzyl Benzoate, Benzyl Alcohol, Geraniol, Citral.
Valmont Hair Repair Repairing Oil
Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond) Oil, Rosa Moschata Seed Oil, Cyclopentasiloxane, Ethylhexyl Palmitate, Cyclohexasiloxane, Octyldodecyl Neopentanoate, Hordeum Distichon (Barley) Extract, Panthenyl Triacetate, Dimethyl Oxobenzo Dioxasilane, Phellodendron Amurense Bark Extract, Santalum Album (Sandalwod) Extract, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Retinyl Palmitate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Arnica Montana Flower Extract, Amp-Isostearoyl, Wheat/Corn/Soy Amino Acids, Calendula Officinalis Flower Extract, BHT, Aminomethyl Propanol, Isostearic Acid, Fragrance, Benzyl Salicylate, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Hexyl Cinamal, Linalool, Limonene, Citronellol, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Benzyl Benzoate, Benzyl Alcohol, Geraniol, Citral. |
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