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havana8
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:27 am |
sister sweets wrote: |
Toby - where did you get acai powder?
I've been using up my flax seed - grinding up about 2-3 T and putting them into my smoothie. Today's smoothie had spinach and kale, a banana , cucumber, lemon, 1/2 cup blueberries, flax seed and I think that's it.
Need to get some chia.
Zoftig - Yes! my focus is skin care and health related. I enjoy veggies but this makes it so much easier getting the right amount. It is costly though. Not trying to lose weight necessarily but a few pounds would be fine. I get to the gym regularly and between that, facial exercise, drybrushing and no lipo lipo and this green smoothie foray I feel like I've put myself on a self-improvement spa vacation.
Most of it is Toby's fault BTW - |
My local grocery store offers acai in the frozen food section. |
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:51 am |
rileygirl wrote: |
cm5597 wrote: |
For example, for those interested in maximum detoxing (but on a sustainable daily basis), she says to eat only raw fruit and veggies until dinner, and I found that eating the exact same things but in this particular order made me detox even more and (after the main detox episode) feel even better! Her website iswww.detoxtheworld.com.
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Did this help you lose any weight, cm5597? Could you go into more details about the only eating raw fruit/veggies until dinner, and can dinner be cooked foods?
Also, just wanted to ask this question to get everyone's thoughts. I talked to a person about the green smoothies and their thought is that fruit should not be included in the smoothies, but that fruit should be eaten separately from all other foods (I believe this comes from a food combining theory.). Do any of you do this? |
Hi riley, I just finished reading another one of Natalia Rose's books, Raw Food Life Force Energy, and she says fruit should only be eaten alone, on an empty stomach. And, I believe Kimberly Snyder says to eat fruit 3 hours after a meal or on an empty stomach.
If you're looking to lose weight I recommend Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book, Eat to Live. I lost 5 pounds in three weeks. He has a six week program, which is a vegan diet with a focus on eating beans, fruits and vegetables, both raw and cooked.
For any of you interested in Natalia Rose's food combining principles, here they are:
1. Starches combine only with other starches and all raw and cooked vegetables.
2. Fleshes combine only with other fleshes, all raw vegetables, and all cooked, nonstarch vegetables.
3. Nuts combine with only other nuts, seeds, dried fruits, bananas and all raw vegetables.
4. Dried fruits combine only with other dried fruits, avacados, bananas, nuts and all raw vegetables.
5. Fresh fruit should only be eaten alone, on an empty stomach. |
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:14 pm |
I was just wondering if anyone here takes Wheatgrass supplements and if so what do they do for you. |
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:39 pm |
If you are feeling adventuresome try this...
http://www.rawfamily.com/videos/purslane.html |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:06 pm |
Wow, thanks so much cm5598 and Jom for all the info. I appreciate all of that. I think I will pick up the Natalia Rose book and give it a read. I do find this all very interesting!
Jom do you follow a raw diet and/or food combining?
I also agree with you all that the most important things is to get the greens in, and if you need the fruit, then add the fruit! |
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:55 pm |
Yeah, Natalia Rose doesn't actually have green smoothies in her program, but what she has instead are green juices. In fact, her main green juice is something that she calls "green lemonade". It's basically juiced greens, celery, apple, and lemon, and together it does make a very nice lemony/lemonade-type drink! But I think anywhere in her program, you can substitute green smoothies or green juices for the green lemonade and for the fruit only meals. In fact, I suspect that you would get even better result from doing that. Natalia suggests a moderately high green intake. Ah, now you've got me wanting to re-read her book!!! |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:00 pm |
cm5597 wrote: |
Ah, now you've got me wanting to re-read her book!!! |
Sorry! Has anyone happened to read her newest book, the "detox for women"?
ETA: I am a big believer in adding the lemon to all of my green smoothies! So, that juice sounds good to me! |
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:05 pm |
rileygirl wrote: |
Has anyone happened to read her newest book, the "detox for women" |
No, I haven't, but I'd also love to hear a review of it...especially from someone who has read her first book, "The Raw Food Detox Diet". |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:33 pm |
rileygirl wrote: |
Wow, thanks so much cm5598 and Jom for all the info. I appreciate all of that. I think I will pick up the Natalia Rose book and give it a read. I do find this all very interesting!
Jom do you follow a raw diet and/or food combining?
I also agree with you all that the most important things is to get the greens in, and if you need the fruit, then add the fruit! |
I'm not following a raw diet, even Natalia Rose doesn't follow a 100% raw diet. She says a good way to start is by going 60% raw and I think that's what I'm doing on Joel Fuhrman's plan. I was mostly interested in the Natalia Rose book for the food combining method. I'm going to try to stick to the method most of the time. I'm a big believer in moderation and the middle way, I figure if I just eat right most of the time and don't focus on all of the time I'll be OK. I let myself go a little over the last few years so I need to lose some weight. I'm trying to eat more fruits and veggies. I think fruits are important too for a healthy lifestyle because they have so much water and fiber. They also help with my sweet tooth. I'm a recovering chocoholic, it's been three weeks since my last chocolate and I'm not missing it at all because I've been eating so much fruit. The fruit helps with detoxing too. I have been gently and naturally detoxing over the last 3 weeks since I started the Fuhrman plan. Natalia Rose talks about what healthy poop should look like and my poop has become very healthy. The only down side is that I've been farting a lot - but at least they're not smelly farts. (That's probably way TMI ) |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:38 am |
jom wrote: |
I'm not following a raw diet, even Natalia Rose doesn't follow a 100% raw diet. She says a good way to start is by going 60% raw and I think that's what I'm doing on Joel Fuhrman's plan. I was mostly interested in the Natalia Rose book for the food combining method. I'm going to try to stick to the method most of the time. I'm a big believer in moderation and the middle way, I figure if I just eat right most of the time and don't focus on all of the time I'll be OK. I let myself go a little over the last few years so I need to lose some weight. I'm trying to eat more fruits and veggies. I think fruits are important too for a healthy lifestyle because they have so much water and fiber. They also help with my sweet tooth. I'm a recovering chocoholic, it's been three weeks since my last chocolate and I'm not missing it at all because I've been eating so much fruit. The fruit helps with detoxing too. I have been gently and naturally detoxing over the last 3 weeks since I started the Fuhrman plan. Natalia Rose talks about what healthy poop should look like and my poop has become very healthy. The only down side is that I've been farting a lot - but at least they're not smelly farts. (That's probably way TMI ) |
Well, that last part may definitely be TMI. Just kidding! I will definitely check out the Fuhrman book, as well. So many books to read! Very interesting about not missing chocolate with eating all the fruit. I love chocolate, but only the dark, and I allow myself 1 square of dark chocolate after dinner. Thanks for the info, Jom! |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:12 am |
More smoothie tips:
I have been using stevia for about 10 yrs.and it really improves the taste and curbs the sweet tooth. Since I have been using stevia I honestly never desire sweets and I used to crave sweets all the time. Since stevia helps to balance blood sugar my metabolism is extremely efficient.
GUYS this is MAJOR for a great smoothie taste:
Healthy to go (acai)This is a great price for the powdered acai http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/itemKey/73441 |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:45 am |
Thank you, cm5597, for taking the time to answer my questions in detail. I know I'll never get to the point where I'll go entirely green or raw, but I'm just happy to have found a way to get some greens and fruits into my diet.
For some reason, my Blendtec won't blend frozen bananas, although it has absolutely no problem with ice. It's the banana that makes the smoothie sweet enough for me so that I don't have to add any artificial sweeteners. |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:00 pm |
This looks like a site with lots of greensmoothie information Let's check it out
http://www.greensmoothiequeen.com/blog/?p=622 |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:39 pm |
This is an idea someone had on the smoothie forum for using a regular blender. I thought it would help some of you.
Making the most of your blender
If, you cannot afford a new Blendtec right up, you will need to care for your existing blender so that it survives long enough to be replaced! So here are a few tips I’ve figured out (usually the hard way lol) to help your blender:
1. DO NOT PUSH GREENS INTO A SOLID BUNCH AT THE BOTTOM!!!!!!!!!! I did this and found myself replacing my friend’s blender because the blades kind of detached and there was a funny smell…
2. When you loosely place your greens in the bottom of the blender, add a little water as this will help your blender to start blending.
3. If you have a blender with detachable base (ie: easy access to the blades) then carefully sharpen the blades on a regular basis. Dad has an older Sunbeam blender, however it works like you wouldn’t believe because he sharpens the blades.
4. Clean your blender thoroughly after each use with a non-abrasive sponge.
I do hope that this helps you to enjoy your existing blender longer whilst you save for a new Blendtec. I’m certainly looking forward to purchasing one! |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:00 pm |
Well I'll be damned.. I've been having a fruit/veggie smoothie each day for about 2 weeks or so, and I've lost 5 lbs..
I honestly thought when I started feeling better and eating again (after my fiasco last month), that I would gain weight again.. I was honestly shocked when I weighed myself today.
WooHoo.. I'm beyond happy about this, because I'm quitting smoking tomorrow, and now I won't worry too much about the weight gain that will no doubt come from that..(Last time was 15 lbs.. ) |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:13 pm |
Way to go Kassy!!!!I thought about you today when I made a dandelion smoothie...it when down the drain instead of the hatch I remembered you saying some of yours didn't make it down the hatch. Dandelion and turnip greens aren't swinging for me. I wish I could eat spinach every day.
Kassy I think the smoothies will help you with the desire to smoke...I have read it is a nice fill in for smoking. Go from this to this Now this is a green smoothie |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:23 pm |
LOL!
The 'dandelion' bit just brought back a childhood memory for me.. I remember my little Sicilian Grandma sauteing that with olive oil and garlic and such, and it was as bitter as all get out.. Down the drain indeed..
I just picked up 3 big juicy pomegranate's today, and can't wait to play tomorrow.. Do you think the 'blendtec' will pulverise those seeds? That's where all the goodness is, so I hope so..
I'm going to try;
- pomegranite
- apple
- red grapes
- rasberries
For dinner tomorrow I'm making pasta primavera, so I'll skip the veggies in the smothie, and just go for the sweet stuff! |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:33 pm |
Will be curious about the Pom... I juice mine. It's so delish... and my pom tree is producing like mad. I'll be freezing juice this year! (gonna try to freeze the little pulps and see how it thaws!)
Toby... try beet greens! and I rotated in chard this last week... not too bitter at all!
I gotta tell you... I've been getting into soups too! So not raw, Made the most yummy "creamy" mushroom soup tonight SOOOOO good.
DH is going to work with me on french onion soup (onions are highly anti inflammatory) |
_________________ Claudia of FlexEffect... 43, fair skin, occasional breakout, Using ECO FROG (my own=disclaimer), and TrueScience (I also sell this)... Happy with that...Come visit on FB! |
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Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:44 pm |
cm5597 wrote: |
I believe levels 1 and 2--the most rigid, but promising the most benefits--have you eat nothing but fruit and veggies until dinner.
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cm5597, what does it mean untill dinner? So instead of breakfast and lunch you only eat raw fruits/veggies and for dinner anything you like? |
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Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:08 am |
Just wondering if anyone has cut down on the supplements they take because of smoothies. I've been thinking I can stop taking so many, because I'm now getting what I need from the fruits and greens. |
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havana8
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Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:08 pm |
ClaudiaFE wrote: |
list of greens: amaranth, arugula(rocket), bamboo leaves, beet greens, bok choy, carrot tops, celery, all types chard, collard greens, endive, grape leaves. all types kale, all types red and green lettuce, turnip greens... |
cm5597 wrote: |
In case it helps, greens I eat regularly:
- spring green mix (almost every day)
- green kale
- red or Russian kale
- dinosaur or lacinto kale
- dandelion
- collards
- lamb's lettuce or mache
- romaine
- bok choi
- parsley
- Boston lettuce
- cilantro |
So, probably an obvious question, but would broccoli and cabbage be considered part of the "greens" group? I'm wondering as I've been adding adding "broccoli slaw" (broccoli, cabbage mix) to some of my smoothies as it is already washed and chopped. (I hope someone hasn't already mentioned it and I missed it. ) |
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Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:16 pm |
havana8 wrote: |
ClaudiaFE wrote: |
list of greens: amaranth, arugula(rocket), bamboo leaves, beet greens, bok choy, carrot tops, celery, all types chard, collard greens, endive, grape leaves. all types kale, all types red and green lettuce, turnip greens... |
cm5597 wrote: |
In case it helps, greens I eat regularly:
- spring green mix (almost every day)
- green kale
- red or Russian kale
- dinosaur or lacinto kale
- dandelion
- collards
- lamb's lettuce or mache
- romaine
- bok choi
- parsley
- Boston lettuce
- cilantro |
So, probably an obvious question, but would broccoli and cabbage be considered part of the "greens" group? I'm wondering as I've been adding adding "broccoli slaw" (broccoli, cabbage mix) to some of my smoothies as it is already washed and chopped. (I hope someone hasn't already mentioned it and I missed it. ) |
broccoli and cauliflower are considered to be greens and I'm pretty sure cabage is too - bok choi is Chinese cabbage |
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Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:26 pm |
cm5597 wrote: |
my personal experience is that you won't get quite as many benefits if you add yogurt, oil and whey protein, especially if you add them into your morning green smoothie, as that is when the body is still doing significant house cleaning.
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I'm interested in the whey protein part. Does this mean that it is better to take whey protein later on in the day. Or that it is always better to not take it in a smoothie? Or a bit of both?
Thanks so much! |
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Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:49 pm |
CM5597
Do you have any info on weight loss with smoothies? I initally lost weight but got it back - probably the bananas and pineaple that made them enjoyable! I'm more interested in the healthy aspects of them but losing a few pounds would be an absolute plus. TIA |
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Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:01 pm |
Russian Sunshine wrote: |
cm5597, what does it mean untill dinner? So instead of breakfast and lunch you only eat raw fruits/veggies and for dinner anything you like? |
Okay, so I double checked the book, and
** For level 3, you eat all raw fruits/veggies until lunch, including green lemonade, and you eat all raw until dinnertime, when you eat a healthy cooked food dinner.
** For level 2, you eat only raw fruits and veggies until lunch, including green lemonade, and you eat a mainly raw food diet.
** For level 1, you eat only raw fruits and veggies until dinner with lots of green lemonade, and dinner is raw.
To give you an idea, here is a sample of a level 3 daily menu:
Breakfast:
* 8-20 ounces of Green Lemonade (green juice with lemon)
* Fresh fruit throughout the morning (as much as you desire)
Lunch:
* Guacamole Salad (raw)
* Raw Chocolate Pudding
* 2 young coconuts or 2 bananas
Dinner:
* Sunshine Joy or Power Soup (raw)
* Classic Chopped Salad
* Sprouted Grain Portobello Mushroom Fajitas
* 3 Kollar cookies or 1/3 bar Dagoba chocolate
For green lemonade, you can substitute a green juice or green smoothie. Does this answer your questions, Russian Sunshine? If not, let me know know
Skippie wrote: |
Just wondering if anyone has cut down on the supplements they take because of smoothies. I've been thinking I can stop taking so many, because I'm now getting what I need from the fruits and greens. |
Yes, I only take vitamin B12 right now. But I eat a ton of greens--1-2 lbs daily--so that alone gives me most of my nutrients (But I do have what I consider to be two whole food supplements: I eat brazil nuts for selenium and flax and chia seeds for some extra omega-3 fatty acids most days.) What I did was to use the USDA's nutrition database to see how much of each nutrient I was getting before I stopped taking particular supplements. You can use one of those automatic nutrition calculators, like FitDay and Nutridiary to calculate how much nutrients you are currently getting and which supplements you actually need. HTH
havana8 wrote: |
So, probably an obvious question, but would broccoli and cabbage be considered part of the "greens" group? I'm wondering as I've been adding adding "broccoli slaw" (broccoli, cabbage mix) to some of my smoothies as it is already washed and chopped. (I hope someone hasn't already mentioned it and I missed it. ) |
Absolutely! In fact, they are both in the cruciferous family of vegetables, which are excellent at supporting detoxification of the liver
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I'm interested in the whey protein part. Does this mean that it is better to take whey protein later on in the day. Or that it is always better to not take it in a smoothie? Or a bit of both?
Thanks so much! |
Yes, it's definitely better to take it later in the day, or at least not before noon. If you don't need the extra protein, then it is probably better not to take the whey protein at all. But if you need the extra protein, then yes, it's better to take it, just take it at a late meal in the day. I never have tried whey protein, but I have tried isolated hypoallergenic raw rice protein a few times, which I *suspect*, but do not know for sure, would allow one to get extra protein while slowing down detox much less than whey would. However, it is not cheap; here is the link: http://www.sunfood.com/buy/1/37/445/Sun-Warrior-Protein--Vanilla--1Kg-2-2lbs--raw--GMO-free--vegan-/1398.aspx
I've experimented a lot with the timing of when you eat certain foods. I was really surprised how much of a difference when you eat foods makes to the detoxification profess for me; I thought it would make a small difference, but it actually made a big difference! This is something that Natalia is big on, and that I've found through experimentation to be correct. So you definitely want to eat the easiest to digest and healthiest foods first, i.e., fruits and vegetables. But it does takes take a while for most people to learn to make and be able to eat a meal out of just fruits and veggies. HTH!
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CM5597
Do you have any info on weight loss with smoothies? I initally lost weight but got it back - probably the bananas and pineaple that made them enjoyable! Sad I'm more interested in the healthy aspects of them but losing a few pounds would be an absolute plus. TIA |
What sort of information do you want on weight loss with smoothies? E.g., success stories, general advice, scientific ideas about when and how it works, etc. Let me know and I'll see if I can help! |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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