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DIY Topical Niacinamide
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Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:06 am      Reply with quote
Its stable
Easy to formulate with (water soluble)
Very effective at small concentration
Strengthens skin barrier (great complement to Vit.A)
Great for acne (studies have confirmed that a 4% niacinamide gel is as effective at combating acne as a 1% clindamycin gel)
Its cheap (lotioncrafter)
Boosts hydration to reduce redness

From Leslie Baumann "to reduce irritation from your retinoid use it in conjunction with niacinamide. Mix them together in the palm of your hand before applying-they won't inactivate each other, besides decreasing side effects, the combo produces superior anti-aging benefits"

Usage Guidelines
2% - collagen synthesis
4% - oily/acneic skin treatments
5% - spot/uneven skin tone and skin texture treatments

Important: maintain ph between 5.0 to 7.0 to prevent the hydrolysis of niacinamide to nicotinic acid which would result in skin flushing, redness and burning.

All of the above is information I have found from researching on the web, so I don't know how accurate it all is.

I have used the following "recipe"

1/4 tsp niacinamide (3%)
2 Tbls distilled water
1/2 tsp hyaluronate acid

Ph is about 6.9, so a little high. I am trying another formula, maybe just distilled water, niacinamide and a few drops of carrier oil in a spritz bottle.
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Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:15 pm      Reply with quote
I purchased some niacinamide powder (pretty inexpensive) and make my own serum (there are recipes that people have posted here and in makeupalley.com). You can make it very dilute to start off with (maybe something like 1% by weight?) and gradually increase the concentration if your skin can take it. I found that the initial side effects of niacinamide (flushing/redness) do lessen with continued regular usage. I think the skin needs some time to adjust to this active and if your skin is sensitive, going very slowly might be helpful.
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Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:06 am      Reply with quote
m1rox wrote:
I purchased some niacinamide powder (pretty inexpensive) and make my own serum (there are recipes that people have posted here and in makeupalley.com). You can make it very dilute to start off with (maybe something like 1% by weight?) and gradually increase the concentration if your skin can take it. I found that the initial side effects of niacinamide (flushing/redness) do lessen with continued regular usage. I think the skin needs some time to adjust to this active and if your skin is sensitive, going very slowly might be helpful.


That's good advice, mlrox. Thanks.
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Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:24 am      Reply with quote
I purchased some niacinamide from lotioncrafters, I was just going to mix it with my night time moisturizer but after reading this it sounds like I must be careful with pH. Niacinamide is the same as B3 right? I noticed that my moisturizer has vitamin b3 listed as an ingredient towards teh bottom of the list.
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oranges wrote:
I purchased some niacinamide from lotioncrafters, I was just going to mix it with my night time moisturizer but after reading this it sounds like I must be careful with pH. Niacinamide is the same as B3 right? I noticed that my moisturizer has vitamin b3 listed as an ingredient towards teh bottom of the list.


As far as I know you are fine adding it to a regular moisturizer,because the pH is just that of the skin. Just don't use it with acidic products, such as AHA/BHA lotions or creams.

I made some serum with just distilled water,but it's very liquidy obviously LOL. I am going to get some natural un-thickened aloe vera gel and add it to that and apply before my moisturizer.
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Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:43 pm      Reply with quote
Monica34 wrote:
oranges wrote:
I purchased some niacinamide from lotioncrafters, I was just going to mix it with my night time moisturizer but after reading this it sounds like I must be careful with pH. Niacinamide is the same as B3 right? I noticed that my moisturizer has vitamin b3 listed as an ingredient towards teh bottom of the list.


As far as I know you are fine adding it to a regular moisturizer,because the pH is just that of the skin. Just don't use it with acidic products, such as AHA/BHA lotions or creams.

I made some serum with just distilled water,but it's very liquidy obviously LOL. I am going to get some natural un-thickened aloe vera gel and add it to that and apply before my moisturizer.


You can use glycerine or hyaluronic acid to thicken it so that it isn't so runny. Don't use too much glycerine or it might get sticky.
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Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:39 pm      Reply with quote
I read that niacinamide has a mild exfoliating action as well. I would like to know if anyone has discontinued using other exfoliants such as AHA once starting using it?

http://www.acnetreatmentdigest.com/topical-niacinamide.php
"Niacinamide is an effective topical anti-inflammatory agent that has mild exfoliating action, enabling the skin to shed old skin cells and prevent pore blockage. The mild exfoliating action of niacinamide is attributed in its ability to speed up the differentiation or cell division of keratinocytes."
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Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:07 am      Reply with quote
Thanks for the additional information Monica, I didn't know it also exfoliates the skin Smile
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I noticed the niacinamide and glucosamine capsules I bought to make the N & G serum contain a little silica and magnesium stearate. I didn't pay attention when ordering them. I can tell the residue on my skin, but is it okay to use? I found that magnesium stearate is used as a thickener in skin care and silica is also an ingredient used in powders or foundations. But I wonder if it interferes with the serum's benefits at all? Anyone else using capsules?
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Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:45 am      Reply with quote
Monica34 wrote:
oranges wrote:
I purchased some niacinamide from lotioncrafters, I was just going to mix it with my night time moisturizer but after reading this it sounds like I must be careful with pH. Niacinamide is the same as B3 right? I noticed that my moisturizer has vitamin b3 listed as an ingredient towards teh bottom of the list.


As far as I know you are fine adding it to a regular moisturizer,because the pH is just that of the skin. Just don't use it with acidic products, such as AHA/BHA lotions or creams.

I made some serum with just distilled water,but it's very liquidy obviously LOL. I am going to get some natural un-thickened aloe vera gel and add it to that and apply before my moisturizer.


My cream has "vegetable stearic acid" in it. Is that a AHA/BHA?
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I just wanted to give an update on using the niacinamide-N-A-G serum.

I discontinued my AHA lotion and have been using the serum twice daily for two weeks today. I made it at 4% each niacinamide and N-A-glucosamine, in aloe vera gel and distilled water mixed 50:50.

My skin is starting to really glow and is smooth and better hydrated all day long. At first, it looked a bit less defined, since I discontinued my daily exfoliant, but this past week my skin looks as if I was using the AHA again. The serum truly does speed cell turnover for me and exfoliates without using acids. I can tell that the fine lines I had are disappearing. I am truly excited to see this Smile
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Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:08 am      Reply with quote
Hi Monica

Could you give us your recipe in detail Smile
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Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:17 am      Reply with quote
LAT wrote:
Hi Monica

Could you give us your recipe in detail Smile


I have seen both versions
2% niacinamide & 4% N-A-G and
4% niacinamide & 2% N-A-G

Sooo, I just did 4% each, I love it, here is what I used:

Niacinamide-N-A-G-Aloe Serum - 4 oz - 4% strength

Fill 4 oz bottle halfway with 2 oz pure aloe vera gel and add:

9 x 500mg caps Niacinamide (NOW)
6 x 750 mg caps N-A-G (N'Acetyl Glucosamine/Jarrow)

Fill with distilled water to make 4 oz and shake well.
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:30 pm      Reply with quote
Can I use only Aloe + Water + and Vit. B3? Unfortunately I do not have any NAG right now, and I am hoping to finish up my Niacin first. I know that NAG + Niacin work well together; however, does anyone know the measurements one would use in a recipe without the the added 6 x 750 mg caps N-A-G (N'Acetyl Glucosamine/Jarrow)? Should, I just substitute with more water? Or Aloe?

Any thoughts on just the following:

2 oz pure aloe vera gel
9 x 500mg caps Niacinamide (NOW)
Filled with distilled water to equal 4 oz
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