anjelina jolie, double mastectomy
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free skin care · Tue May 28, 2013 5:48 pm

Coincidences happen all day, every day, all over the world. That AJ had this done and went public at a time that the genetics company was able to capitalize on it was probably just that...a coincidence.

I don't blame her...if I had her money I might get it done, too. What would be even better, though, is maybe to set up a foundation that poor women could apply to to have the same thing done for free. She could probably pop a couple of freebies a year and not even know she'd signed a check.

Also worth noting is that People magazine routinely comes up with fresh covers of exceedingly current (like within a few days) events. Probably their issues *are* planned in advance, but there's nothing sinister in their being able to push her cover in the same week she went public. They have enough flexibility to be able to rush to print a cover and story that will boost their sales by leveraging a really hot recent topic.

free skin care · Wed May 29, 2013 12:31 pm

We don't have the right to judge Angelina, I agree, but let's stick with the facts about what kind of person we already know her to be and what is the likely effects of her "choice". And also not venerate and worship her like she's a saint, when we know this isn't true.

Angelina for me is not and never will be a source of inspiration, and I do not feel I am less "compassionate" for making critically thought-out remarks about her decision. Why couldn't she keep it to herself, if she did not in fact want everyone to adulate and fawn over her? You don't think she and her kind think that is their job, to lord it over us and tell us how to think and live?

I do not personally believe she had a high risk of cancer: and what risk she has, I think she exaggerated. She works for the UN- it's not a coincidence.

free skin care · Wed May 29, 2013 4:29 pm

Kath91 wrote:

here's a letter posted in our local paper today that brought to my attention a viewpont i didn't often remember and, often, forgot to consider ---
breast cancer, also, as a man's disease
(couldn't get it to link so just copy/pasted letter from opinions in
www.democratandchronicle.com/

Jolie offers inspiration for men and women
May 27, 2013 1:10 PM

I applaud actress Angelina Jolie for having the courage to speak publicly about her choice to have a bilateral mastectomy. I have had breast and prostate cancer because of my BRCA gene mutation. My sister and mom are also BRCA2, and have undergone treatment for breast cancer.
Our foundation, which supports male breast cancer awareness, has reached out to many “famous” men who have had breast cancer but have no interest in publicizing their disease. Jolie’s power as a celebrity has brought a new mindset and awareness to living with BRCA mutations.
We want all men to know that they can also be carrying the BRCA gene mutation, and if so, they are not only susceptible to breast cancer but also prostate, pancreatic and melanoma cancers. For all the coverage that this story of Jolie has garnered, not ONCE did any of them mention that this is man’s disease as well.

HARVEY I. SINGER
HONEOYE FALLS

Co-founder, HIS Breast Cancer Awareness Foundation

hisbreastcancer.org

^^ THIS - my bold underlined

free skin care · Wed May 29, 2013 4:33 pm

I do not find Angelina to be any kind of "saint", nor do I feel her choice was particularly inspirational or worthy of all the public fawning and high-flying panygerics to her virtue that have been going on. She did what she did because she could. She has that fundamental God-given right, especially since her actions objectively and demonstrably hurt *no one*. The press has always been unaccountably obsessed with Brangelina, so going public to control the spin was probably the most rational choice she had. I don't really like her but in this instance blame her for nothing.

Her work for the UN probably means at best nothing more than she sincerely believes it's the right thing to do. At worst it probably means that she's doing it to appear altruistic and receive credit for doing something good when in reality she's not doing much at all. I'm no fan of the UN, myself, but to think there's a human conspiracy (the "Illuminati" or whatever) causing every bit of individual human stupidity and individual human cupidity is kind of arrogant. Sometimes people are turds and it's nobody's fault but their own. Sometimes people are big ol' piles of sugar, and it's nobody's fault but their own. Neither type has partners in their actions and there's no one compelling them to be that way. That's just the way they are.

But I digress.

Even though I'm no AJ fan, gretchen, I feel compelled to say...I hope you are NEVER judged as harshly by anyone as you apparently judge people you you've never even met and can't possibly know. For you to assume what her breast cancer risk was, that she exaggerated it, etc., is breathtakingly presumptuous and cold-hearted. Shame on you.

free skin care · Thu May 30, 2013 4:15 pm

Bravo Yubs. You expressed it so much better then I could have.

free skin care · Fri May 31, 2013 7:40 pm

I don't really have any kind of preoccupation with whatever kind of person we know AJ to be, so I'm a bit in the dark about what you were going on about, Gretchen.
I also don't venerate or worship her as a saint, and I don't know this is true or not, but I kind of doubt it. Smile

Yes, I guess she didn't feel the need to keep it to herself because her job is being a celebrity. And she's really good at it if you're that upset about what she does and doesn't do. To me she's just one person. shrug.

I'm truthful about what I do in life, not because I want everyone I know to adulate and fawn over me, but because I don't see much sense in hiding. There's nothing I can do about what people want to think anyway.

And I can't see how there's any way she or her kind can lord it over me or tell me how to think and live, unless I let them, which might be why it doesn't anger me.
I also do not understand why she angers you this much.

free skin care · Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:15 pm

sister sweets,

My apologies for taking so long to respond to ur ? re my iodine (lugol's/iodoral intake) (haven't been at EDS since my last post)

Yes I am a long time believer in iodine & have been taking btwn 25 - 125mg for 7.5 yrs. (I had a major detox reaction after taking 50mg (was taking 25mg prior to test) for my most recent Iodine Loading test – have continued at this level & am just now feeling better – will continue to up it due to continued fluoride and heavy metal toxicity)

I had extremely elevated bromide years ago & I found in my most recent test results that it is finally within the range. I was shocked to see that my fluoride level is still elevated however - beyond what the Iodine Loading testing labs are seeing with people who drink fluoridated water. I do not drink fluoridated water (distilled water & our well water tests out good also) nor to my knowledge consume food containing fluoridated pesticides or fluoride. ( I eat organic (unfortunately due the contamination of our water table now these can also contain fluoride – don’t drink tea or wine or consume foods that are noted to be hi in fluoride so I have to conclude that it is still being released from my bones. This is a truly scary thought (not only because it is a neurotoxin in & of itself) but also because it increases the uptake of heavy metals (esp aluminum)into the brain.(I will be embarking on further heavy metal detox as I also have a hx of mercury poisoning - yes from my amalgams) (I am also trying a new (expensive product) to assist me (& accelerate)in the detox & with other health issues. I will post re this if it works out for me)

I am very grateful for the iodine pioneers providing us with info to prevent & treat conditions like breast cancer. I know these docs have seen many cancers in remission & when I was a pt of Dr Flechas his nurse told me she first came to him as a patient with Stage 4 breast cancer with mastectomies scheduled. He asked her to try iodine for 2wks & have new scans. She did & her tumors were already seen to be receding. She never had her mastectomies & remains cancer free.

For those of you who think you or your loved ones are not & could not be iodine deficient – considering that they are finding that over 96% of all they test are, you very likely are. The allopathic docs will try to push other testing on you (not reliable) so if you really want to know get the loading test done. (best from hakala or FFP) (I have NO affiliation whatsoever)(very important to also test for bromide & fluoride)

While I think that this thread is really about choice & while AJ's would not have been mine, my real point is we need to truly informed choice & we do not have that in this supposed free country. And unfortunately the medical industrial complex is doing everything in their considerable power to eliminate our alternative choices. And they are certainly not above using star power to push their agenda. (I am NOT saying that AJ is complicit in this however)

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