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Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:41 am |
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CareKate wrote:
I wanted to share my fave new trick when using my beloved Wella Color Charm DIY hair color: *before* dying my hair, I apply a homemade protein treatment consisting of avocado, jojoba, grapeseed and coconut oils and let it set in for 15-20 minutes, then I prepare my hair-dye mixture and apply it directly *over* the protein treatment (i.e.: without rinsing the oil out first).
You cannot even BEGIN to imagine how much shinier your hair turns out when you’ve finished and are blow drying and styling your glossy new color!!!! It completely blew me away because it looked like I had applied a clear-gloss "sealant" after I colored, or else slicked on some shine serum to my hair before blow-drying even though I hadn’t!
I actually came up with the idea for applying the protein/oil treatment before doing my color when I saw one of those Sarah Jessica Parker commercials where she’s hawking Garnier Nutrisse hair color and she says what makes Nutrisse so wonderful is the fact that the dye actually contains "nourishing avocado and grapeseed oils." That’s when the little light bulb went off in CareKate’s head and she had a brainstorm!
So anyway, even if you guys are only using some drugstore hair dye kit, you should really try applying the protein treatment first before you actually put the dye on your hair.
Alright, I know exactly what you guys are thinking: "Won’t the protein/oil treatment interfere with the penetration of the dye?" And the answer is a complete,resounding, "No!!!" If anything it makes the color penetrate more evenly so the weaker areas on the hair shaft don't "grab" too much color.
I really think I must be on to something with the protein/oil treatment before coloring because I’m a big fan of the Phytolagie line of hair products, specifically their Phytocitrus shampoo and Phytocitrus hair mask – it’s great for "refreshing" your highlights once they start to fade and get brassy looking. Although the Phyto line is actually best known as the hair products that all the "Baywatch Babes" used on the set to keep the sun and surf from destroying their peroxide-blonde hair.
Anyway, when I was at one of my beauty boutiques yesterday arranging a CP for an MUA member, they had a Phytocitrus shampoo/hair mask bonus set that included a sample of a pre-coloring intensive hair treatment and when I checked the ingredients, it was basically a blend of several oils (jojoba/avocado/grapeseed) and essential oils, and when I checked the instructions for usage for this treatment, it said something like "Bring this treatment along to your salon and tell your stylist to apply it immediately before any coloring service, do not rinse." And you won’t believe this: Phyto sells full-size tubes of this pre-color treatment for around $15 per vial!! You can make the same damn stuff from items that you probably already have in your kitchen or bathroom.
BTW, I also color my mom’s hair with my beloved Wella Color Charm dye which I custom-blend to give her what she claims is "the best home hair color results that I’ve ever used" and keep in mind that she’s been dying her hair since the early days when "Miss Clairol" was first born! Anyway, I colored her hair last weekend and this time I used the DIY protein treatment on her before I applied the dye, and again it gave her incredibly shiny, incredibly even-looking results! You guys have got to give this a try next time you color your hair!
Okay, so last night I needed to re-tint my lashes so I look great in the inevitable upcoming Thanksgiving family holiday photos so I started thinking and said to myself, "Self, I wonder what would happen if you applied a protein treatment to your *lashes* before you tint them...?" Now this sounded like a mighty fine idea to me and -- being your ever-faithful guinea pig -- I decided to try it:
I applied a bit of my L'oreal Natures Therapy Mega Moisture protein treatment (just because it was pre-made in a bottle so I didn't have to fuss with making a homemade version but a homemade protein treatment would work just as good) with a clean mascara spooly wand and let it dry completely, then I mixed up a bit of the 1000 Hours Lash Tint and applied it as I normally do using the "Application on Self" instructions and I rinsed my lashes and cleaned them with a bit of my Yonka Nettoyant Gel cleanser and looked in the mirror to see if the protein treatment beforehand had made a significant difference in the results....
Great hopping fleas -- if you think your lashes look great after using 1000 Hours now, just wait until you get a look at the results after you apply it over a protein treatment!!!! My lashes came out even darker and more glossy looking than usual. I mean REALLY darker and more glossy!
Please ladies: you've *got* to try this the next time you tint your lashes and see the difference for yourselves. |
this is what i was looking for....i'm going to try it soon...Carekate, have you posted the recipe proportions somewhere? Could you let me know how much of each ingredient please?
My hair will thank you  |
_________________ oily tzone;fair; mild roseacea;PCOS symptoms-hirsutism,occasional cystic acne. Mid 30's-light-med brown hair, light brown eyes |
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Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:37 am |
appletini wrote: |
Now I'm the one who doesn't understand. I thought by definition that oils/fats were different from proteins. (?) I just checked the nutrition labels on my olive and corns oils in the kitchen and both contain 0g protein. |
I can’t speak for olive oil, but many other oils (jojoba, avocado, grapeseed, sweet almond, etc) contain lots of protein, vitamins and minerals – it’s just the building blocks of which these oils are comprised. Corn oil itself contains a good amount of vitamin E and essential fatty acids, proteins, vitamins, and minerals.
I don’t know why those proteins were listed on the ingredients label – perhaps it’s because one doesn’t actually ingest enough of the oils when using them to cook with that one doesn’t receive any benefits from those proteins...?
Agent OO-CAT wrote: |
Thanks Carekate. I'm going to be the really annoying kid in class. Is a deep conditioner different from a regular conditioner? If so, how? |
Emma2006 wrote: |
I think a deep conditioner is one you lave on for longer - say 20 minutes. |
Emma is correct a deep conditioner is one that is left on the hair for an extended period of time (at least 5 minutes up to leaving it on overnight). You don’t necessarily need to buy a separate deep conditioner to use, a lot of times you can use your regular conditioner but just leave it on for an extended period of time so it can really penetrate and moisturize your hair.
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can anyone recommend some really good moisturising masks please (to help wash down the food I like that analogy. |
My holy grail conditioner is Biolage Conditioning Balm and here’s why:
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I nearly wrecked my hair a few months back (no, it wasn’t Silk Therapy this time!) by changing hair color several times in one month and you know what saved me from having to whack it all off again? Biolage Conditioning Balm! I shared my experiences with this wonder product in another thread a while back:
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Okay, I seriously fried my hair about six weeks ago to the point were it felt sticky when it was wet! It was so bad that I was actually afraid that I’d have to cut it all off and then begin to grow it back out again.
I’d been trying everything I could think of, all the high dollar conditioning treatments plus my own remedies. In desperation, I used a bit of Biolage Ultra-Hydrating Conditioning Balm that I found, long forgotten, stuck in the cabinet under the bathroom sink and it made a huge difference after only one application.
For me to recommend this product is a wonderment in itself because I have gone on the record here and on MUA several times stating that Biolage Cond Balm was crap and that it did absolutely nothing for my hair. Now I have to eat my words because this product literally SAVED my hair!!!
I think part of the reason that I wrote this product off in the past was because the Cond Balm doesn’t contain copious amounts of silicones which mostly serve to make the hair shaft feel slick and slippery, thereby fostering the impression that it has completely “healed” the damage to your hair because it no longer feels all rough and nasty, when – in fact – all those products were doing was temporarily coating the hair with silicones to disguise the damage rather than correct it.
Sure enough, the first time I used the Cond Balm this time, when I rinsed it out my immediate first thought was, “I knew this was a waste of time – my hair doesn’t feel conditioned at all!” But after I towel dried and began to apply my pre-blowdrying styling products, I could see and feel an immediate difference in the health of my hair. After a week of using it (twice as a deep conditioning treatment and the rest of the time as a usual after-shampoo conditioner), the damage to my hair was almost completely repaired.
I owe this Biolage miracle a most humble apology and I take back every bad thing I ever said it and I can confidently and with a completely clear conscious recommend this product to others! |
One thing to note about the Biolage CB: most conditioners say to apply to “damp” or “towel dried” hair but the Conditioning Balm works best when applied to sopping wet hair. I don’t know why this is, but I’ve used it on both sopping and towel dried hair and have found it to give better results when applied to wet hair. |
I also love L’oreal Natures Therapy Mega Moisture Nurturing Cream that is available at Sallys which is a dead-ringer for one of the popular (but expensive) Kerastase conditioners because they’re both made by the same company: http://www.sallybeauty.com/shop/1215/500342
The biggest difference between my Biolage Cond Balm and the Natures Therapy Mega Moisture conditioner is that the later product contains (non water-soluble) silicones, which I don’t like to use in my hair very often because they cause buildup so I only use the Natures Therapy a couple times per month as in intensive moisturizing treatment and use my Biolage Cond Balm the rest of the time.
HTH,
Carrie |
_________________ Über-oily,semi-sensitive, warm/fair-skinned redhead, 38...Will swap/shop for members outside U.S. and/or make homemade skincare products upon demand-PM me for details. |
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Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:52 am |
ariesxtreme wrote: |
I almost wish I colored my own hair so I can try this. I highly doubt I can walk into the salon with my hair all goopy with this stuff on and ask my colorist to place the color ontop of this pretreatment.
Is there a way I can still do this and go to the salon and get the color done to get the same benefits? |
Yeah, I do it all the time: just wash/condition your hair as usual that morning, then apply the oils/protein treatment and blow dry your hair. DO NOT USE ANY STYLING PRODUCTS! This is gonna be a day where you need to pull your hair back in a ponytail or headband or something because you don’t want to put any product in your hair that is going to make your colorist want to wash your hair again when you get to your appointment.
Then after your appointment, make sure to go home and give your hair a deep conditioning treatment to moisturize and hydrate it after all that protein and chemical processing!
If your colorist is anything like mine, you probably don’t want to mention that you’ve applied the protein treatment because she most likely won’t understand the concept and science behind it. I love my hair stylist dearly and trust her absolutely, but I know more about haircare than she does! The only thing she’s got that I don’t have is an actual cosmotology license. I still can’t convince her or the salon to carry sulfate-free products (i.e.: Pureology) – although that could be merely be due to economics because the salon makes more money if their clients hair color fades quickly and they have to come back for touchups. I’m always trying to get her to try the ACV and honey tricks, explaining how and why they work and all I get for my trouble is a bemused look! Thankfully the rest of you aren’t so reticent about trusting my judgment and have discovered these super cheap and effective tips for yourselves....
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P.S. Aries, I don't know how your custom color is, but I lay down my own "base" color at home (using the incomparable Wella Color Charm colors from Sallys) and then go to my stylist to get "carmelized" highlights in various shades of red/gold/blonde/brunette, which ends up saving me about $100 on my coloring bill. Just wanted to mention that if you wanted to think about doing part of your color at home and then going to the salon to get the customized highlights and stuff.... |
_________________ Über-oily,semi-sensitive, warm/fair-skinned redhead, 38...Will swap/shop for members outside U.S. and/or make homemade skincare products upon demand-PM me for details. |
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Sun May 13, 2007 8:43 am |
This is a fabulous suggestion! Thank you! I do my Mom's color as well as my own root touch-ups. I often leave coconut oil on my hair overnight and before getting it wet, I add a little shampoo, then add water. That method works best for me in removing the coconut oil in just one shampoo.
I've never thought about doing an oil treatment and leaving it on while doing color. I bought a bottle of mixed oils (Africa's Best Herbal Oil) in the ethnic hair care section in Walmart. It's an outstanding blend of about 9 oils and several extracts. I slathered this oil on my Mom's hair and left on for an hour, then custom mixed her colors. We were both a little concerned that the permanent color might not penetrate, but the results are OUTSTANDING!! Her hair is so glossy and soft without being weighed down.
I applied a bit of the oil on my clean, dry eyelashes and after 15 minutes I applied my 1000 Hour Blue/Black last tint. The color really did come out darker and glossier. I went ahead and slathered the Herbal oil on my hair last night and am doing a root touch up right now. I go in for highlights this Tuesday, so I'm going to smooth a small amount of the oil on my hair Tuesday morning and see what it does for the highlights.
I like the smell of this hair oil and it's a lighter consistency than say, for example straight olive oil. I think I paid about $5.00 for the 8 oz bottle.
CareKate, Thank you for such a great tip!  |
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