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chan anais
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Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:24 am  |
| Thanks releygirl, for your advise. so i will continue my treatment until complete 18weeks then i will change to maintenance process. |
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chubbycat09
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Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:36 am |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| chubbycat09 wrote: |
Hello,
Would it be too much (or any adverse impact) that I've using the following daily for 5 months (started the program in June 2008):
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Clear, Nu-Derm Exfoderm, Professional-C Serum 20%
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Blender+TRETINOIN 0.1%
Your advice is greatly appreciated! |
chubbycat, are you supposed to be on maintenance? I noticed you stated you started the program June of 2008. I think if you are on maintenance that daily is too much. That is just my opinion but maintenance is usually Clear 3 times a week, Blender/Retin A 3-5 times a week, and you definitely could back the Exfoderm down to 2-3 times a week. The C is fine to use daily. |
Thanks much!
I was on maintenance for a few months and started full cycle again.
Is there necessary to start full cycle again after being on maintenence for a few months? Thanks! |
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Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:57 pm |
| chubbycat09 wrote: |
Thanks much!
I was on maintenance for a few months and started full cycle again.
Is there necessary to start full cycle again after being on maintenence for a few months? Thanks! |
Chubbycat, from what I am remembering, I believe they do recommend you do a full cycle yearly. So, 4 1/2 months you would use the system (18 weeks), and then go on maintenance until the next year. You don't have to do that, but I would say if someone has been on maintenance for almost a year and the pigmentation is starting to come back, then it would be time to do a full cycle! |
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Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:06 pm |
Rileygirl,
Is it recommended to do a full cycle of 18 weeks or 6 weeks on a yearly basis? I'm nearly to the maintenance phase -- just finishing up my 24th week and feel like I've pretty much plateaued in terms of what Nuderm can do for me.
I think, at this point, I'm going to still look into a treatment such as laser or IPL to cap off the final results. Thanks! |
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Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:32 pm |
The full 18 weeks, kims!
Are you happy with your results, kims, and what are you still looking to improve on, if you don't mind me asking? |
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chubbycat09
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Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:57 am |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| chubbycat09 wrote: |
Thanks much!
I was on maintenance for a few months and started full cycle again.
Is there necessary to start full cycle again after being on maintenence for a few months? Thanks! |
Chubbycat, from what I am remembering, I believe they do recommend you do a full cycle yearly. So, 4 1/2 months you would use the system (18 weeks), and then go on maintenance until the next year. You don't have to do that, but I would say if someone has been on maintenance for almost a year and the pigmentation is starting to come back, then it would be time to do a full cycle! |
Thanks so much rileygirl!
When on maintenance, I'd use Clear every other morning and Blender/Retin A 5 times at night, then would you recommend for those days NOT using Obaji (I have oily skin). I used Janson Beckett AlphaDerma CE and Mama lotion in the past. Thanks again! |
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Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:20 am |
| chubbycat09 wrote: |
Thanks so much rileygirl!
When on maintenance, I'd use Clear every other morning and Blender/Retin A 5 times at night, then would you recommend for those days NOT using Obaji (I have oily skin). I used Janson Beckett AlphaDerma CE and Mama lotion in the past. Thanks again! |
You're welcome, chubbycat! You can use whatever you want at the other times! Whatever you like, you can use. I would limit any acid use (like Mama lotion) to just a few days a week tops, but otherwise play around and have fun!  |
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chan anais
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Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:02 pm |
Hi rileygirl,
it seem like you know very well about skincare product, can you adviseme something about reducing wrinkle around eye area. I'm 36 years old,recently I've got alot of small wrinkles around my eye area specially when I smile. I did apply many eye cream from Lancome, SK-II, Estee Lauder, Sisley, Dior... but it does not reduce at all. What should I do now, please help. Thanks alot. |
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Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:29 pm |
| chan anais wrote: |
Hi rileygirl,
it seem like you know very well about skincare product, can you adviseme something about reducing wrinkle around eye area. I'm 36 years old,recently I've got alot of small wrinkles around my eye area specially when I smile. I did apply many eye cream from Lancome, SK-II, Estee Lauder, Sisley, Dior... but it does not reduce at all. What should I do now, please help. Thanks alot. |
I sure wish I could help you with that one. I am looking for something for that area, myself. I have been using the Neocutis eye cream, which I do like, but have not used long enough to see results yet. I will say that I don't think anything topical with improve the wrinkles you get when you smile. Have you tried a topical A product around your eyes? |
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:35 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
The full 18 weeks, kims!
Are you happy with your results, kims, and what are you still looking to improve on, if you don't mind me asking? |
Hi Rileygirl,
Just ended 24 weeks of Obagi! My ps wants me to continue for another four before I officially go on maintenance. If I were to rate Obagi on a scale of 1-10, I would probably give it an 8. Most all of the superficial pigmentation is gone i.e. freckles and throughout the summer, I didn't get any new spots. However, I've got three areas on my right cheek that are lighter but not entirely gone. I've also still got these small and round red "dots" on various areas of my face. No idea what to do about them! I was also hoping the Nuderm would refine my skin's texture more than it did. I think it's better, but still rough looking because I've got large pores on my nose and cheeks.
That being said, I do think my skin is in better condition and a lot healthier than it was before Obagi. (Just looked at mex0500 pic on her tca thread and I thought it looked pretty good. Pretty similar to mine after all these weeks on Nuderm!!) I think my skin is in excellent condition and ready for maybe an IPL treatment to take it one step further.
So many people comment in their posts how other friends, co-workers, etc. notice the difference in their skin. I've had not one person comment! Maybe I need new friends -- ha ha! Anyway, I'm going to go at it full force these last four weeks. Maybe I'm just a late bloomer! |
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:49 pm |
It sounds like great improvement, kims. I think we strive for perfect skin, and I am not sure anything will give us that. (I saw the pic you are referring to, and I honestly couldn't find anything wrong with her skin! So, if your skin looks like that, I think you should be really happy!)
P.S. I think we both may need new friends, as I never had anyone comment on my skin either!  |
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:58 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
It sounds like great improvement, kims. I think we strive for perfect skin, and I am not sure anything will give us that. (I saw the pic you are referring to, and I honestly couldn't find anything wrong with her skin! So, if your skin looks like that, I think you should be really happy!)
P.S. I think we both may need new friends, as I never had anyone comment on my skin either! |
Love your P.S.!! BTW, I forgot to mention that I don't wear as much make up anymore! I used to use a heavy liquid foundation and now I can get by with mmu. That's really a huge improvement for me! |
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:28 pm |
| kims wrote: |
| Love your P.S.!! BTW, I forgot to mention that I don't wear as much make up anymore! I used to use a heavy liquid foundation and now I can get by with mmu. That's really a huge improvement for me! |
Too bad we don't live close to each other. We could give each other compliments! That is huge, kims, that you don't need the heavy make-up anymore! |
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:20 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| kims wrote: |
| Love your P.S.!! BTW, I forgot to mention that I don't wear as much make up anymore! I used to use a heavy liquid foundation and now I can get by with mmu. That's really a huge improvement for me! |
Too bad we don't live close to each other. We could give each other compliments! That is huge, kims, that you don't need the heavy make-up anymore! |
I totally agree!! Don't you live in Flo? I live in MO! |
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:42 pm |
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| I totally agree!! Don't you live in Flo? I live in MO! |
Yep, I live in FL! |
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:31 am |
Hi Kims and Rileygirl,
I haven't been on here for a while!! Still having bad days. On week 12 BUT I am doing the slow approach now as when I tried it everyday my face just could not take it. I am sticking to Tret/Blender every other night half a gram 0.01% and exfoderm every 4th am. For the past week I have been tolerating it quite well, but yesterday (after exfo) my face was very red again (did some gardening but had on sunhat, shades and sunscreen!)And our sun over here isn't near as hot as USA but it was still quite hot, so wondering if that did not help. This morning I exfoliated my face well ( gently with just water and fingertips in shower)and I do seem to flake a lot still, but during this morning i noticed it getting redder and burning more. Its just so embarrasing!! And dry and wrinkly!!
I have asked my dr about Action but haven't had a reply so still waiting...but I'm seeing him tomorrow. Off to spain on Monday so that is a concern. I was hoping face would be better, but I will just have to be liberal with sunscreen. I have bought SPF50.
I have Comfort gel( only ever use in dire need) which I put on yesterday around mouth and chin but still stings and burns a bit after that!
I have my friends wedding in a couple of weeks time so I was hoping I would look better but no chance!! I think I will have to leave off products for at least 4 days before hand.
So I am persisting but I'm wondering when I'm likely to see in with the new phase? I can't tell!!!All I see is more wrinkles and dryness. Do you think I should start re-hydrating by 24 weeks? And can you tell me if things are ever going to improve????
I need some incentive!!!
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:47 am |
| poochie wrote: |
So I am persisting but I'm wondering when I'm likely to see in with the new phase? I can't tell!!!All I see is more wrinkles and dryness. Do you think I should start re-hydrating by 24 weeks? And can you tell me if things are ever going to improve????
I need some incentive!!!
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That is hard to say, poochie, since you are taking the slow route! Hang in there. Everyone I know who has completed the full cycle of Nu Derm is very happy with their results! |
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:56 am |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| That is hard to say, poochie, since you are taking the slow route! Hang in there. Everyone I know who has completed the full cycle of Nu Derm is very happy with their results! |
Yes that is what I keep reading anyway. I have to keep going with it, even though it will be a long time for me.
I was reading earlier that even Action causes some burning..I don't want to waste money if it doesn't actually give any visual improvement!!! All the younger people can cope with this better I think because they don't have the wrinkles that look exaggerated on this!!! I read that someone uses a little vaseline when it becomes too dry. Obviously I don't want to slow down anymore, but maybe in an emergency.
Also someone else rsaid they liked Neocutis eyecream. I was complaining about the Elastiderm that I bought as it caused worse symptoms and I haven't used it since.
Thanks for your reply. |
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:18 am |
| poochie wrote: |
I read that someone uses a little vaseline when it becomes too dry. Obviously I don't want to slow down anymore, but maybe in an emergency.
Also someone else rsaid they liked Neocutis eyecream. I was complaining about the Elastiderm that I bought as it caused worse symptoms and I haven't used it since.
Thanks for your reply. |
You can use Aquaphor if you get the cracks at the corners of your mouth, otherwise, I would not put vaseline on your entire face.
I would say that by 24 weeks your skin should have adapted, poochie, even taking the slow route, but as things work differently for everyone only time will tell!
If you can afford it, give the Neocutis eye cream a try. The Elastiderm didn't do anything for me, but I am liking the Neocutis eye cream a lot! (I agree that it is harder for those of us who have wrinkles, as it really does make them seem more visible due to the dryness.) Hang in there! |
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:59 pm |
Hi Poochie, Good to hear from you and congrats on making it 12 weeks -- even if you are taking the slow route. I think with this whole Obagi thing that it's important to "listen" to our skin and make adjustments as needed. And that sounds like what you're doing! Your "out with the old" stage may take alittle longer but you will get there.
I also took a bit of a reprieve from Nuderm while on vacation this summer or if I had something coming up and I didn't want to be red and peely. Just start back up when you're finished with those events.
Like Rileygirl said, Aquaphor is excellent for those areas that get really raw and irritated. Also, on days when you know you'll be out in the sun, I would just omit the Exfoderm since you find it so irritating.
Keep it up!!  |
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tootsierollypolly
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:47 am |
My very first posting on this forum. Anyone's input will be greatly appreciated
I have used Obagi around 2 years ago but had to stop because I got pregnant. Now that I am no longer breastfeeding I want to go back to using Obagi because I liked the results. I have red acne scars and pigmentation. Because I stopped using Obagi my skin has become a nightmare and I don't know where to start in order to have smooth and blemish-free skin again. That's why I thought of going back to the Nu-derm line.
Thing is, because of budgetary reasons I did not use the whole product range; I only used the following: Clear, Blender + Retin A and Exfoderm (I think). Of course I used a first grade sunscreen. And that's about it.
Because I now have a LO money is tighter than ever  , all the more reason to scrimp hehehe. I really want to use Obagi again. Can anyone please recommend the essentials only? If money were not so tight I would get the whole range and then some in a heartbeat.. Would the Clear, Blender w/ Retin A be sufficient? Mind you, I was searching for an alternative to Obagi but no valid reviews/testimonials came up. Paula Begoun's review of Obagi was disheartening: "Nu-Derm Clear is a prescription-only skin lightening product formulated with 4% hydroquinone. Althought the amount of hydroquinone can be very effective for stubborn discolorations and conditions such as melasma, this isn't nearly as elegant as Tri-Luma, another prescription-only skin lightener with hydroquinone. The amount of sodium lauryl sulfate in Nu-Derm Clear has the potential to cause irritation, and the tiny amount of vitamin-based antioxidants Obagi included doesn't justify this product's price or greatly enhance its efficacy." But I still remember the results I had in the past, so I'm still leaning towards the Nu-derm line.  |
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:29 am |
| tootsierollypolly wrote: |
My very first posting on this forum. Anyone's input will be greatly appreciated
I have used Obagi around 2 years ago but had to stop because I got pregnant. Now that I am no longer breastfeeding I want to go back to using Obagi because I liked the results. I have red acne scars and pigmentation. Because I stopped using Obagi my skin has become a nightmare and I don't know where to start in order to have smooth and blemish-free skin again. That's why I thought of going back to the Nu-derm line.
Thing is, because of budgetary reasons I did not use the whole product range; I only used the following: Clear, Blender + Retin A and Exfoderm (I think). Of course I used a first grade sunscreen. And that's about it.
Because I now have a LO money is tighter than ever , all the more reason to scrimp hehehe. I really want to use Obagi again. Can anyone please recommend the essentials only? If money were not so tight I would get the whole range and then some in a heartbeat.. Would the Clear, Blender w/ Retin A be sufficient? Mind you, I was searching for an alternative to Obagi but no valid reviews/testimonials came up. Paula Begoun's review of Obagi was disheartening: "Nu-Derm Clear is a prescription-only skin lightening product formulated with 4% hydroquinone. Althought the amount of hydroquinone can be very effective for stubborn discolorations and conditions such as melasma, this isn't nearly as elegant as Tri-Luma, another prescription-only skin lightener with hydroquinone. The amount of sodium lauryl sulfate in Nu-Derm Clear has the potential to cause irritation, and the tiny amount of vitamin-based antioxidants Obagi included doesn't justify this product's price or greatly enhance its efficacy." But I still remember the results I had in the past, so I'm still leaning towards the Nu-derm line. |
If you had good results with the Retin A/Blender, Clear, and Exfoderm, I would start back on those products. I believe that the cleanser/toner are important as they get your skin to the proper pH to help the products work better. If you can afford it, you could substitute the Obagi C-RX cleanser instead of the Nu Derm cleanser and tone (the C-RX cleanser doesn't require a toner). If not, I would just use exactly what you did before that go you the good results. (And of course that all important good sunscreen!). Good luck! |
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tootsierollypolly
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:59 am |
| Noted. I truly appreciate your input Rileygirl |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:34 pm |
Just to point out here that Triluma is NOT part of Obagi, just in case anyone is confused! |
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