Great new DNA (Renovage/Trepenone) product from Nanci !!!!!!
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free skin care · Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:47 am

finaly my dna serum came in last week, it took 28 days to get here.netherlands. next time i order no big thinks like cell renewing toner. So it can fit in an envelope. (Tax) I have just started. Yes it is yellow but only for a few seconds, sinks right in.Hope this works.

free skin care · Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:16 pm

Are some of you still using, liking, and sticking with the NCN DNA serum, despite all this negative stuff about Renovage?

Despite the things posted here, there are also some skincare experts who have excellent products, and who I respect as knowledgeable in this field, who use this ingredient in their products (other than Nanci) so I really don't know who to believe. I think the DNA serum works well, too.

free skin care · Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:05 am

AmazingRacer wrote:

Are some of you still using, liking, and sticking with the NCN DNA serum, despite all this negative stuff about Renovage?

Despite the things posted here, there are also some skincare experts who have excellent products, and who I respect as knowledgeable in this field, who use this ingredient in their products (other than Nanci) so I really don't know who to believe. I think the DNA serum works well, too.

The new reports on Renovage do worry me a little, but I still absolutely love the product and it's still working very well indeed on my skin.

Not sure what I will do when my latest bottle runs out. Maybe hope that better news comes along?

I'll be disappointed if I have to look for a replacement, I must admit.

free skin care · Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:26 am

Keliu wrote:

Scroll down on this page - there's a pic of the DNA Serum here:
http://barefacedtruth.com/?p=744

Had a bit of a laugh when I read the following - sound familiar anyone?:

Quote:

What is working for me this month? The correct answer would be whatever I put on my skin a few months ago.

Has anyone followed these beauty blogs (actually commerce sites that dispense deep science and medical advice without a doctor in sight) where they switch products each month and then tell you how well wrinkles are doing? And attribute their ups and down to the product of that month. Then sell it to you. I think they actually know better. The truth just doesn’t sell products.

In terms of skin science this is utter nonsense (non-science). Ingredients that affect real wrinkles at a structural level take many months. It’s a long process (we will soon do a post on wrinkle physiology). You won’t even start to see effects for 6-8 weeks. So, shouldn’t they be then selling the 3 months ago product, not the current one? That would make more sense. But I have found the world of anti-aging skin care to be anything but rational.
http://barefacedtruth.com/?p=440

I for one get fed up of reading all of the overnight miracles that get reported on these forums.

At last there's a Voice of Reason out there!

I wonder what the Dr.s would say about Ageless Secret Gold or Diamond and the science behind that!

free skin care · Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:24 pm

This may be a silly question, but I'll ask nevertheless Smile

How is this DNA serum related to that DNA serums offered by swiss skincare companies (e.g. Valmont products). I'm currently using Valmont serum and I'm loving its effects on my skin but I was wondering if Nancy's DNA ingredient has anything in common with Valmont one?

I suspect that Valmont DNA ingedient is organic (harvested from the fish source), whereas DNA in Nancy's serum is not, but please correct me if I'm wrong....

free skin care · Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:32 pm

Yes, I remember the Skin Actives site and read several articles written by Hannah Sivak. I was surprised that a proponent of product safety, with a Biochemical background would not speak out on the use of Methylparaben and Propylparabens. Given their direct and indisputable link to breast cancer. Since I have had two girlfriends with this dreaded disease, I declined purchasing any of their products since they contain so much of these preservatives. I have included this link on Teprenone. I suppose it is as good as anything I have read here. All seems to be nothing more than a collection of opinions. Some for and others against.

http://www.alsearsmd.com/reverse-the-signs-of-aging-in-a-single-month/

All I know for sure is that Nanci's DNA is an excellent product which has made a noticeable difference in my appearance.

Nancy Very Happy

Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:47 am

I would not believe this Sears guy. Another guy selling his cream with Teprenone. And did you you notice, he refers to studies done by Sederma, that same company that makes Renovage.

free skin care · Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:58 pm

I've had positive results with DNA serum from NCN. Many products discussed on EDS forums have had controversial reports but in the end very little oomph to show something is truly so bad. One that comes to mind is Dr. Pickart 2nd generation Copper Peptides. Lots of ruckus against using it but in the end a valuable product, loved and used by many.
.... Since it was brought up: I've had the best results of all with Ageless Secret Gold: Ageless is lovely, non-toxic, benign in every way and an amazing youthenizer.

free skin care · Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:01 am

sister sweets wrote:

I've had positive results with DNA serum from NCN. Many products discussed on EDS forums have had controversial reports but in the end very little oomph to show something is truly so bad. One that comes to mind is Dr. Pickart 2nd generation Copper Peptides. Lots of ruckus against using it but in the end a valuable product, loved and used by many.
.... Since it was brought up: I've had the best results of all with Ageless Secret Gold: Ageless is lovely, non-toxic, benign in every way and an amazing youthenizer.

But there are quite a few members who have complained that the 2nd generation CPs have completely wrecked their skin - Avalange is one who comes to mind.

It seems that most topicals are regarded as either beneficial or detrimental - according to which studies you read. And most of the latest peptides, DNA and stemcell technology don't have a long history of usage to definitely know either way. So, yes, we are all guinea pigs.

However, if reliable clinical studies start turning up stating that something is harmful, I think it's best to err on the side of caution.

free skin care · Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:08 pm

Actually Avalange is the only one who comes to mind.

Keliu wrote:

sister sweets wrote:

I've had positive results with DNA serum from NCN. Many products discussed on EDS forums have had controversial reports but in the end very little oomph to show something is truly so bad. One that comes to mind is Dr. Pickart 2nd generation Copper Peptides. Lots of ruckus against using it but in the end a valuable product, loved and used by many.
.... Since it was brought up: I've had the best results of all with Ageless Secret Gold: Ageless is lovely, non-toxic, benign in every way and an amazing youthenizer.

But there are quite a few members who have complained that the 2nd generation CPs have completely wrecked their skin - Avalange is one who comes to mind.

It seems that most topicals are regarded as either beneficial or detrimental - according to which studies you read. And most of the latest peptides, DNA and stemcell technology don't have a long history of usage to definitely know either way. So, yes, we are all guinea pigs.

However, if reliable clinical studies start turning up stating that something is harmful, I think it's best to err on the side of caution.

free skin care · Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:51 am

sister sweets wrote:

Actually Avalange is the only one who comes to mind.

After years of participation here, I think we both know that there have been numerous complaints about the ugly side effects of CPs.

free skin care · Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:04 am

sister sweets wrote:

Actually Avalange is the only one who comes to mind.

Actually, I believe Toby has also had issues with copper peptides and damage around her eye area? I know there are others who have also claimed to have damage from the CP's.

free skin care · Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:52 am

This is thread is so long and rather digressive. Can you tell me--is anyone still using this product, and do you still like it? I have never bought from this vendor before and I am very curious.

Thanks!
Dianne

Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:47 am

Hi Everybody...
I was following this thread with high interest... Dr John made this statement about the Dna serum that was really worrying. I just bought the serum because i loved the sample so much. I started using the serum anyhow, because it is one of the first products i ever used that feels so great and has an instant effect on my skin. It makes it plump, radiant en glowy. Off course, i don't want to keep on using it when the risk of spreading cancer (i understand that Dr John claims that this product doesn't evoke cancer, but does spread skin cancer if it's already present.) Since you cannot tell if this is the case it might be dangerous to use products like this. I just like to know more of it, because it is hard to say who is right and who is not. Everyone seem to have a double agenda, and i don't like that idea... Forgive me my English if i use strange words to express myself, but it is not my mother language.

free skin care · Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

I have not been following Dr. J. I'm not sure about an agenda as M Wisteria mentions. I hope not though it has happened unfortunately.

I am still using DNA - I am on my second bottle and love it. I have faith that Nanci (NCN proskincare.com) has researched this product as well.

free skin care · Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:00 am

I love this product and what it does to my skin overall, unfortunately since I started to use it(Ithink it is this) I have developed some funny little spots on my neck and jawline. They are like hard little boils ,I have never had acne or spots but these are really horrible quite obvious and are very hard to get rid of.LOts of exfoliating and antiseptic cream I think two are at last beginning to go but not nice.
I have stopped using it and sadly don't think I will use again.

free skin care · Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:59 am

I've stopped using it. I didn't see any plumping or any other benefits - but it didn't break me out. I think it did exacerbate my blackheads and it made my nails go yellow.

But it is the fact that this active is a stomach ulcer drug that put me off it - but then everything has its pluses and minuses. If the serum had of been doing wonders, I would have kept on using it.

Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:12 am

My skin under my eyes is very dry and needs moisture. I have been using Easy Eye Solutions for about a month and like that but feel I need additional moisture. I am doing the Obagi Nu-Derm system and my skin peels a little under my eyes. So I bought the DNA Serum from NCN due to the reviews and have been using for about a week. I have only used under my eyes. Using it morning and night. The first two days, under my eyes looked great. No wrinkles, looked more hydrated and my under eye cover up went on very smooth. Was very happy. Well, that ended. The last two days I have woke up to extremely wrinkled skin under my eyes, feels very dry and tight. I'm pretty bummed, product had a lot of promise. Guess I'll continue my quest.

Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:48 am

I felt I did not give the DNA Serum it's just due. Continued to use for another week and actually really like it. I'm pretty sure the retin-a was making under my eyes more dehydrated and was not DNA Serum. So I cut down on the retin-a and started using the DNA Serum morning and night. I've actually seen quite a bit of improvement under my eyes. Looks a lot better! Will keep using.

Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:26 pm

I do feel it's a pity that the serum is so yellow. I wake up every morning to a yellow mark on my pillow. However, it does plump up my skin more than anything I have used to date.
Liz

free skin care · Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:14 pm

I use this in the morning so no pillow worries but when I used it at night I let it sink in for about 10 minutes before hand. I can't remember staining but I forget things these days. Confused

I agree cat2fat about the undereye effects of NCN's DNA. It tends to be a great addition to the entire face so you may want to branch out.

free skin care · Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:56 pm

Going on nine months of usage of the DNA serum and my under eye area is looking so nice and hydrated. My skin absorbs the serum well and I don't use moisturizer any more at night....don't need it now.

Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:34 am

Thanks Sis! Can't wait to use on whole face after I've completed the Obagi Nu-Derm. Middle of week 11, getting close. Do you find that your face has a yellow tint if you use in the morning? You must put on a thin layer and let soak in but guess could change your makeup color. Have been thinking about my maintenance routine after Obagi so not sure where to incorporate. Maybe once a day, after retin-a or CP's in evening or after Vit C in am. Not sure, will have to research that one.

Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:38 am

I am using the dna serum from NCN (see thread title) for a few weeks now, and i am very happy with it. My skin looks better than ever. But with the cancer issue related to renovage/teprenone i got scared. I don't know what to do now. The thread gets very complicated, so that is not helping either...

Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:43 am

This discussion has been split to move posts related to the in-depth analysis and/or debate of product ingredients to its own thread on the Skin Care Forum found here: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=45127 Given that this is the Products Review Forum, this thread will continue to be for shared user experiences (good, bad or indifferent) on the product in question. Whatever thread you find yourself in, please stay on topic. Thank you.

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