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Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:48 am  |
Mariposa,
could you, please, share once more your fungus recommendation?
There are many EMF protection devices sold by holistic suppliers (just search raw food EMF and you will find plenty). I know nothing about these devices, so can not comment one way or another.
With the standard EMF meter you cam measure the EMF. There are also some standard shields, etc. Again I do not know enough to comment on that.
The methodology that I subscribe to is to basically turn something that is bad into something that is good for a person. The question then becomes how do you measure to ascertain that is indeed the case? They (at prlabs) developed a way to do it - via a patented by Dr. Omura variation of a muscle test (O-ring). For most people it does sound like you are a candidate for a nut house. In the beginning my husband looked at me and I could almost hear that thought. When I convinced him to try it while choosing produce at Costco he agreed and quickly was shocked to discover that some items tested very well and some horrible regardless of the price, country of origin and even if they were organic (we now frequently test the produce we buy at any store).
Things had evolved since, and I have my entire house remediated according to the recommendations (and the max it involved was re-arrangeing furniture, no construction). I also have water filtration for the whole house to avoid absorb chlorine during shower or bath, and a few other things like it.
However, for most people unfamiliar with the subject it does sound like esoteric BS, and I have zero interest to debate, validate or even discuss it.
If anyone still has an interest - PM me and I will try to help; otherwise, please, feel free to disregard.
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:49 am |
| mariposa wrote: |
| aprile wrote: |
| I believe washed "ghee" is organic *pure* butter without the added cream or salt. Very pure... but if using on bread or other bakery items, you need to acquire a taste for it. I used it once in a cleanse, but cheated and added some sea salt. |
Ghee has nothing added. The milk solids are boiled out. |
Forgot to mention 2 places I've ordered from who have delicious ghee:
http://www.pureindianfoods.com/
www.ancientorganics.com
One's on the west coast and the other is on the east coast. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:59 am |
Mariposa,
all excellent suggestions on EMF.
Since electrical wiring is also in your walls it is better not to put anything closer then 1 foot to the wall.
There is also an issue with EMF in the car (engine, electrical circuit, etc).
Then there are also toll booths, EZ pass lines, etc.
Since we re-mediated the house we no longer have to switch things off, and have no issues with cell. phones or cordless phones. I do have a special protector on each cellular capable unit. Also all of the above mentioned are no longer an issue for us.
But I know plenty of people who live happily without ever worrying about any of this. For those who does and is interested what I was taught I will gladly share. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:22 pm |
We are all affected negatively by EMF's, WiFi, RF's (radio frequencies), smart meters, and more. If we could see all of this in the atmosphere, it would be a blue gray thick fog.
Most people don't notice the effects, but there are those who have become ill and some who become incapacitated. Nonetheless, I think it is a good idea to be aware of the risks and do what one can....so as to keep the immune system and other systems functioning well.
Since I have a number of health conditions, I do everything I can to take any extra load off my system. The less it has to deal with these loads (which come from toxins in food and water, electrosmog, off gassing of many products, etc),
the more energy my body has to deal with the issues at hand. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:55 pm |
| aprile wrote: |
| When I use the (pico) gloves I am very careful to place, push up and hold. |
Aprile i am so grateful for your post re your skin also being sensitive to the texture of the pico gloves.
So if you are trying to lift your cheeks you would hold the gloves on the muscle you wanted to lift and then just push up? Do you still hold the 'second' glove above the 'first' for conductivity purposes..or do you just use one glove, the one that is pushing.
I have been trying to come to terms with the fact that i cannot use the gloves as they were created to be used by the company..i loved being able to use them..felt like my face was like clay and i could just scuplt it with my hands..i really had an innate feel for it....and i was looking foward to following Christine's 12 day MC experiment with the pico. (i'm sure she will be using the gloves)
regarding the probes..which i will purchase because i have fallen in love with the pico (when I use it with my own skincare regime)..they feel like they will be so cumbersome and unyielding compared to using my hands in the gloves...but it seems like it will be so much better than not using the device at all.
so you are inspiring me to 'face my fate' with this device and order the probes.
do you get the same lift with the probes that you did with the gloves when you were following the company's protocol.
also what about using P2 for fullness..can you do that with the probes..i haven't even tried the P2 format yet...but i really would like to include that protocol too. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:07 pm |
Sigma
i am so sorry..i only ordered the washed ghee once a few months ago(i only use a small amount at a time)so i make a 'large' mistake with the name of this kind of preparation from ghee. It's 100X washed ghee not 10,000X! There's only one place i found online that makes this preparation from ghee..if you google 100x washed ghee you will find it.
again, i found out about this product on EDS....and yes in ayurvedic tradition 'regular' ghee is also used but this 100x washed one (literally 'washed'..you can see it being prepared on you tube)is supposed to be more superior (and healing, especially for redness) for the skin..and i find it to be so..it also is not quite as oily as just using regular ghee..it penetrates into the skin more easily...but it is not an 'energy' skincare product as i believe we are using the term here..although it takes a lot of human 'energy' to prepare it.. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:17 pm |
| sigma wrote: |
I am not sure exactly what propels people with no interest in the subject and obviously no knowledge and no desire to learn to incessantly post and post and post whatever they can find on the internet just to provoke or irritate (upcoming EDS purchase, personality disorder or too much free time, or ???).
Thank you! |
I have not been available to read since yesterday morning. Just now, I was reading the last few pages, taking notes on valuable information and will comment on some of it in a minute. This post however, made me laugh out loud. Thank you for that. I have been wondering the same thing!
About the cell food gel that you mentioned in the same post, I haven't been able to find it. I may have to order online. Please let us know your impressions of the product after you have used it longer. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:28 pm |
| mariposa wrote: |
| bethany wrote: |
| Sigma, can you please share how you are remedying EMF? I have more pc's than most people running in my home (where I also work), plus wireless routers, tablets, cell, etc. so any insight would be appreciated! |
There are a number of products on the market that do work. I've bought from this website and have had a few conversations with the people there. They are helpful in explaining the things I don't understand.
wwwlessemf.com
Check out the page for computer protection.
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Clock radio next to bed must go.
Get a trifield meter and measure EMF’s in home.
Unplug all devices within 6 feet of the bed.
Find the circuit breaker and turn it off at night.
Eliminate electric blankets, pads, and waterbed heaters.
No live extension cords or power strips near bed.
Satellites, wireless anything, dimmer switches, and touch lamps are all bad.
Avoid living near cell phone tower.
Do not use cordless phone. Minimize use of cell phones.
Do not have metal springs in your bed.
We regenerate and do alot of healing when we sleep. That's why the bedroom is so important to reduce the exposure when sleeping. We turn off the circuit breaker to the bedroom at night. |
Oh no! I am guilty of almost everything on that list! Maybe I'll try to eliminate one thing at a time. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:57 pm |
Jasminerosey, is ghee what they use in India to make the small candles? I have a friend who grew up in India and she still makes those candles. What EO's are you using? Am I understanding you correctly? Did you get less results from the Pico Toner with straight water than you got when you used it with the mineral?
Has anyone tried Boots brand mineral spray?
SylviaKatt, I tried Baking soda one time as an antacid and it made me bloat up like a balloon. I think it has a lot of sodium in it. Does your husband have that problem with it?
Aprile, I don't know a lot about Color energy for health or skin care, but I am a Master Gardener. Studies show that if red mulch or red plastic is placed at the roots, it improves the growth, development, and yield of the tomatoes. If a color can alter the growth of a plant, it stands to reason that it could effect us also. This has something to do with the color red reflecting certain types of light waves onto the plant. There are also studies that show how color effects mood. I am not advocating any products or theories. I'm just saying it makes sense to me that there could be something to it. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:55 pm |
| Tonia wrote: |
SylviaKatt, I tried Baking soda one time as an antacid and it made me bloat up like a balloon. I think it has a lot of sodium in it. Does your husband have that problem with it? |
He said he uses the baking soda just for acid reflux, not as an antacid. He takes the chewable antacid tablets for those symptoms.
The acid reflux is the worst for him when he lays down. He puts about 1 tablespoon in 8 ounces of water. He said it just seems to neutralize the acid reflux symptoms after about 30 minutes, and then he can go to sleep. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:19 pm |
| jasminerosey 1 wrote: |
| aprile wrote: |
| When I use the (pico) gloves I am very careful to place, push up and hold. |
Aprile i am so grateful for your post re your skin also being sensitive to the texture of the pico gloves.
So if you are trying to lift your cheeks you would hold the gloves on the muscle you wanted to lift and then just push up? Do you still hold the 'second' glove above the 'first' for conductivity purposes..or do you just use one glove, the one that is pushing.
I have been trying to come to terms with the fact that i cannot use the gloves as they were created to be used by the company..i loved being able to use them..felt like my face was like clay and i could just scuplt it with my hands..i really had an innate feel for it....and i was looking foward to following Christine's 12 day MC experiment with the pico. (i'm sure she will be using the gloves)
regarding the probes..which i will purchase because i have fallen in love with the pico (when I use it with my own skincare regime)..they feel like they will be so cumbersome and unyielding compared to using my hands in the gloves...but it seems like it will be so much better than not using the device at all.
so you are inspiring me to 'face my fate' with this device and order the probes.
do you get the same lift with the probes that you did with the gloves when you were following the company's protocol.
also what about using P2 for fullness..can you do that with the probes..i haven't even tried the P2 format yet...but i really would like to include that protocol too. |
Hi Jasmine,
Yes I am very sensitive too! I know what you mean about the molding part, but trust me the probes are awesome and not at all cumbersome (the wires maybea bit, but no biggie). I also realize that the Neurotris routine incorporated a lot of cinching, erase and glide moves and that just doesn't work when you are super sensitive, especially with these gloves which are also exfoliating in a sense. As for using the gloves on the face to lift the cheeks. I tried using them to perform the CACI pinch routine. (just google Caci Pinch routine and you will see it.) But I pinch much higher on the cheek than they do. I put black glove on top of apple of cheek and red beneath. For this routine, you would be using P1 setting doing holds across cheek in three places...holding between 30-50 secs. BUT I felt I wasn't achieving the same type of results that I could. I did see some temporary lift but I felt since CACI is using probes, I'd prefer probes too. So I bought the probes and honestly the probes direct the current more where you need it for this routine.. It even *feels* different. That's because w/the gloves the current (conductivity) is disbursed throughout the gloves.. Personally I really like probes better for most moves, with the exception of the lips on P2 and lower face plumping.
BUT the gloves are also great for the body, and I'm not sensitive on my arms or legs. In fact, if you purchase the probes there is a quad cable and you could do a treatment on your hands and treat your face with the probes at the same time. As for plumping with the gloves and P2. Yes better than the probes. This is where I would place black glove on top of red and push up with red glove - dont let gloves touch. Do 30-50 second holds in the gaunt area of the lower face. Start at the jawline and work your way up to under the eyes. Just lift the gloves and move them up rather than gliding or cinching... It works and is not irritating. Probably shouldn't do too much about pico here since it's really not fair. There is some really good advice on the old Pico thread and also the microcurrent tips thread, and of course, just PM me if you need help with something specific!
I too hope to see the results of Christine's 12-day microcurrent challenge photos with Pico. She's a master with both the gloves and probes... In fact, I have used many of her moves (found on youtube) with the probes. Just love her!!! HTH!!
Take care,
Aprile |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:47 pm |
| sigma wrote: |
Mariposa,
could you, please, share once more your fungus recommendation?
There are many EMF protection devices sold by holistic suppliers (just search raw food EMF and you will find plenty). I know nothing about these devices, so can not comment one way or another.
With the standard EMF meter you cam measure the EMF. There are also some standard shields, etc. Again I do not know enough to comment on that.
The methodology that I subscribe to is to basically turn something that is bad into something that is good for a person. The question then becomes how do you measure to ascertain that is indeed the case? They (at prlabs) developed a way to do it - via a patented by Dr. Omura variation of a muscle test (O-ring). For most people it does sound like you are a candidate for a nut house. In the beginning my husband looked at me and I could almost hear that thought. When I convinced him to try it while choosing produce at Costco he agreed and quickly was shocked to discover that some items tested very well and some horrible regardless of the price, country of origin and even if they were organic (we now frequently test the produce we buy at any store).
Things had evolved since, and I have my entire house remediated according to the recommendations (and the max it involved was re-arrangeing furniture, no construction). I also have water filtration for the whole house to avoid absorb chlorine during shower or bath, and a few other things like it.
However, for most people unfamiliar with the subject it does sound like esoteric BS, and I have zero interest to debate, validate or even discuss it.
If anyone still has an interest - PM me and I will try to help; otherwise, please, feel free to disregard.
Thanks. |
Sigma,
I don't remember what I said regarding fungus.
There are a number of things that are good for fungus.....olive leaf, caprylic acid, oregano,
Monolaurin are some that come to mind. I take a powerful herbal tincture.
If you are interested, feel free to PM me.
Using ozone internally is also helpful.
If one has a fungal issue somewhere other than in the gut, it very often is also in the gut. So it needs to be treated there as the origin, if that's the case.
HTH
Mariposa |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:01 pm |
Mariposa,
I think she was referring to toenail fungus. This can be very hard to get rid of!! I know because I've had it for many years.. I've used tea tree oil,healthfood store preparations containing a certain acid, oregano oil and other things on and off. Curiously, it always gets better in the summer months when I wear flip flops. So I totally get the ozone treatment. I am having some success with magnesium oil wen I remember to use it.. (I do so many others things I often forget. Lol.) But I thought someone mentioned using a 50% hydrogen peroxide/water mixture. Maybe that wasn't you!! Lol. ~ Aprile |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:25 pm |
JR - thank you so much, found washed ghee and ordered.
Mariposa - it was 50% hydrogen peroxide/water mixture (thanks, Aprile); I just was not sure what % hydrogen peroxide. Also not sure where I can get food grade one? I managed to treat in on another big toe with Manuka Oil, but on this one nothing helped so far (Vicks, Manuka, Tee Tree, Oregano; I am trying AlliUltra (Allicin + Vit. C - fantastic in capsules for cold and viruses; but so far failed to do a thing here). I agree that if there were no health issues it would have never took hold to begin with. I am trying to deal with the internal part, but that is tricky at the moment. So any help will be greatly appreciated.
Tonia - cellfood link - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015B2RAO/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
HTH |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:51 pm |
Bethany,
thank you.
Amazon is easy and convenient, so order placed.
Thank you so much! |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:01 pm |
I had a mild toenail fungus and was able to cure it with the cure on owndoc.com
http://shop.owndoc.com/product-info.php?pythium-oligandrum-pid171.html
Thank you for the link, Sigma. 
I have been looking for local food grade H2O2 because I thought it had to stay refrigerated. Is it OK to order online? |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:52 pm |
H2O2 doesn't need to be refrigerated. I buy 3 gallons at a time and keep it in the closet. After
months, it is still very bubbly and alive. |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:55 pm |
| Why is it perfectly acceptable to talk about ghee and toenail fungus on this thread but not ASG? |
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:23 pm |
So what are we doing with the food grade hydrogen peroxide? |
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:01 am |
I don't think it is - especially as this thread is called "Energy Based Skincare - why I like it" and ghee and toenail fungus aren't anything that falls into that category.
I really hope this thread gets back on track, it has a potential for sure. I don't think it should be all about ASG either as there are many different energy products out there.
Did anyone see the Reiki Facelift photos posted a little while ago - they were quite remarkable and reiki is an energy based system too!
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| Why is it perfectly acceptable to talk about ghee and toenail fungus on this thread but not ASG? |
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:47 am |
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So what are we doing with the food grade hydrogen peroxide? |
I bought it years ago when Mpstat started a thread on SK's...I tried it on some sunspots on my leg (all documented on the EDS thread) and found it to be far too painful and damaging.
Now I just highly dilute it and use it in place of 3% or use it straight to clean out my garbage disposal, lol. |
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:55 am |
| I'd like to know more about the reiki facelift - anyone got any info? |
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:20 am |
This is their website: http://www.reikifacelift.com/results.htm
I don't think the dvd is available yet but they are making one to teach people to do it themselves. I've never heard anyone having the treatment but the before/afters impressed me.
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| I'd like to know more about the reiki facelift - anyone got any info? |
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