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Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:23 pm  |
Sounds good thats if I can remember it all , who are you  |
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Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:25 pm |
| 10Sylvia5 wrote: |
| Sounds good thats if I can remember it all , who are you |
Sylvia darling...did you take your pain medicines early or double  or do I need some cause you lost me |
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Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:30 pm |
Tiny
Actually I lost myself there, not quite sure what I meant either  call it a senior moment |
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Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:02 pm |
| 10Sylvia5 wrote: |
Tiny
Actually I lost myself there, not quite sure what I meant either call it a senior moment |
LOL Sylvia we all have those especially when helped along by pain meds! 
I do hope you feel better soon and do not let the "men" make fun of you they are the kings of doing stupid things!  |
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Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:36 pm |
| 10Sylvia5 wrote: |
BTW Kassy I just saw your photo on another thread / no it must have been skincaretalk, boy you look
awesome, completely so not your age 
I am now starting up my light again and whatever else you have said you did. |
Where-where did you see it? I also want to see Kassy's photo  |
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:09 am |
RS
If you click onto the skincaretalk website on one of the forum topics(cant remember which) Kassy is on there. She is beautiful, no other way to say it |
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:35 am |
| 10Sylvia5 wrote: |
RS
If you click onto the skincaretalk website on one of the forum topics(cant remember which) Kassy is on there. She is beautiful, no other way to say it |
Well said, she is, that site is nutty to naviagate to me. |
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Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:43 am |
isnt it just, I found her quite by accident
Im not even sure I could do it again |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:02 am |
I think I am now on week 8, and I still have serum left, what I am seeing is nothing huge or miraculous, but a definite smoothing, firming and clarity to my skin.
I must say my eyes have been the most amazing area so far, they are smoother, firmer, the grooved area still gone. Lines are less. And the discolorations from years of sun damage are going, I can go without makeup again.
About a year ago, I woke up one day and it was if all the aging hit at once, I feel like I've gained time back from that awful morning. I don't see all the aging as I had been seeing, but nothing I can really put my finger on. I do not expect huge results until down the road, but I can say I am seeing results.
Lip lines are softer and staying that way, but not gone.
So to sum it up, nothing miraculous, but a definite improvement, enough to keep me going. I realise this product is long term but I am glad I see enough to encourage me to continue. |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:53 am |
| Tiny wrote: |
I think I am now on week 8, and I still have serum left, what I am seeing is nothing huge or miraculous, but a definite smoothing, firming and clarity to my skin.
I must say my eyes have been the most amazing area so far, they are smoother, firmer, the grooved area still gone. Lines are less. And the discolorations from years of sun damage are going, I can go without makeup again.
About a year ago, I woke up one day and it was if all the aging hit at once, I feel like I've gained time back from that awful morning. I don't see all the aging as I had been seeing, but nothing I can really put my finger on. I do not expect huge results until down the road, but I can say I am seeing results.
Lip lines are softer and staying that way, but not gone.
So to sum it up, nothing miraculous, but a definite improvement, enough to keep me going. I realise this product is long term but I am glad I see enough to encourage me to continue. |
Tiny, when you refer to firming, do you mean plumping? Less sagging? And by smoothing, do you mean texture, smaller pores? Thanks!
Also, if one only used a single ReLuma product, either the serum or the moisturizer, which would you recommend in regard to best results (in your experience)?  |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:15 am |
| EthelM wrote: |
| Tiny wrote: |
I think I am now on week 8, and I still have serum left, what I am seeing is nothing huge or miraculous, but a definite smoothing, firming and clarity to my skin.
I must say my eyes have been the most amazing area so far, they are smoother, firmer, the grooved area still gone. Lines are less. And the discolorations from years of sun damage are going, I can go without makeup again.
About a year ago, I woke up one day and all the aging seemed to hit at once, I feel like I've gained time back from that morning. I don't see all the aging as I had been seeing, but nothing I can really put my finger on. I do not expect huge results until down the road, but I can say I am seeing results.
Lip lines are softer and staying that way, but not gone.
So to sum it up, nothing miraculous, but a definite improvement, enough to keep me going. I realise this product is long term but I am glad I see enough to encourage me to continue. |
Tiny, when you refer to firming, do you mean plumping? Less sagging? And by smoothing, do you mean texture, smaller pores? Thanks!
Also, if one only used a single ReLuma product, either the serum or the moisturizer, which would you recommend in regard to best results (in your experience)? |
EthelM,
I am going to do my best to answer you. I did not have sagging skin, it was to the touch and feel looser than it is now, an example is when I use the pmd, I barely have to hold skin at all now (your suppose to pull it tight). Not sure if that is plumping, if it was I'd think my lip lines would plump as well, but I could be wrong.
By texture, part of that is the firming I am feeling. I can literally feel the firming when I apply this product. I never had enlarged pores but did have a sudden appearance of sun damage, freckles that weren't cute anymore, bigger, more of them, blotchy, but not red blotchy, just not my skin I was use too. That has diminished drastically. I never had to wear foundation to cover my skin in my life, but in the last year I felt I needed something. I am now back to not needing it. Texture is also referring to the look, I don't think my face looks as old as it was a few months ago.
I have said this, but will repeat, I think this is a combination of the pmd and this product.
To sum up my skin in the last year, I woke up and all of a sudden I was aging, seeing things that had not been there prior, looser skin (not sagging yet) discolorations, linessssssssssss. I now see fresher, firmer, a lot less discoloration. I still see lines and I've not lost 10 years, but I do see progress, at least a small step back.
If I had to choose I'd choose the serum, because I think serums are more powerful. But I do like the cream, its very light, sinks in and I feel firming from it.
Not sure why but when I get ready in my bathroom my mirror is kind, but when I go into my hall bath, its the scary mirror (am I the only one with one of these), but even in the scary mirror the lines are softer, skins better looking.
Ok sry this is long winded, but I am trying to pinpoint exactly what I am seeing and I find that hard.
Ethel, do you think adding estroil cream to lip lines would diminsh those? might be something I'll add, to wipe those out fast. Just curious on your thoughts. I think this product will take months to do that if it does |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:08 am |
Thank you, Tiny, that does help. So, if I understand correctly, by texture, you mean brown spot discoloration (versus ruddiness versus rough surface). I do think the PMD is playing a major role in diminishing brown spots, frankly, and perhaps more so than ReLuma unless Reluma contains a lightening agent and/or an ingredient that increases cell turnover (like an acid).
Regarding the estriol, yes indeed I do think estriol will help lip lines and all lines, because of the action estriol spurs within the skin. I think estriol is particularly helpful for older women, those over forty who have dininishing estrogen levels. However, I don't think any topical will fix any line fast, because in order to repair damage, a sequence of cell life cycles must happen. It takes time to regenerate tissue, to increase collagen and elastin and to incite repair mechanisms. So yes, I think estriol will be very helpful but it won't be fast...nothing topical will be fast. The only fast fix for lines is an injected filler or a laser. |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:21 am |
| EthelM wrote: |
Thank you, Tiny, that does help. So, if I understand correctly, by texture, you mean brown spot discoloration (versus ruddiness versus rough surface). I do think the PMD is playing a major role in diminishing brown spots, frankly, and perhaps more so than ReLuma unless Reluma contains a lightening agent and/or an ingredient that increases cell turnover (like an acid).
Regarding the estriol, yes indeed I do think estriol will help lip lines and all lines, because of it's action within the skin. However, I don't think any topical will fix any line fast, because in order to repair damage, a sequence of cell life cycles must happen. It takes time to regenerate tissue, to increase collagen and elastin and to incite repair mechanisms. So yes, I think estriol will be very helpful but it won't be fast...nothing topical will be fast. The only fast fix for lines is an injected filler or a laser. |
Texture is also the firming, the look, or perhaps I am just using the wrong word, I am trying to say there is a definate improvement to the look and feel of skin, both the firmness and the discoloration. So yes NO to ruddiness ect., I've never had that. I do think the PMD is responsible for the discoloration going. RL does make a serum with lightening in it, I am not using that one.
I just told a good friend, not sure what happens at 50 but those that have had this happen get it, those that haven't won't. All of a sudden, you look in the mirror and OMG you look older! These 2 products (PMD and RL) have taken me back to the day before that happened. I had the same lines, prior to that day, they are now softer and in some areas gone (eyes, forehead mainly, but these were very very small lines). It has NOT taken me any further back than just that. I do hope that makes sense.
And thanks for the info! I might add it, for speedier results around the mouth (controversial product not suggesting others do this). While I'd like my results to be from just this product and or pmd, I am not a poster child for RL and I am not immune to wanting faster results or adding. I will update anything I do add tho. |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:28 pm |
ment to add, unless RL pm's me and offers me free product for a year to soley use it, I am officially able to tweak!!
ok teasin, thats not happenin |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:37 pm |
| Tiny wrote: |
ment to add, unless RL pm's me and offers me free product for a year to soley use it, I am officially able to tweak!!
ok teasin, thats not happenin |
LOL nor me I don't own stock darn it!
I am sticking with me C serum and RA, I already know what they do so what I am seeing is from the combo of ReLUma and PMD.
At this point I am not giving up either PMD or ReLuma! |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:55 pm |
DarkMoon, are you seeing similar results as is Tiny from using ReLuma? My concern is that I don't have brown spots, so if that is what ReLuma is most successful at correcting, it may not be for me. My interest in ReLuma is to increase the levels of beneficial cytokines in my skin before and after rolling. I'm hoping it'll do that, but I admit to growing confusion as the cytokine brouhaha unfolds.  |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:12 pm |
Ethel,
I do think the PMD is responsible for the skin coloration corrections happening! As I said earlier RL does have a product with lightening in it and that is not what I am using. I also think it contributes to the firming I am feeling, a one two punch in a way, the serum is firming but so is the microdermabrasion. Hope that makes sense.
DM is also using the pmd as well, so she might not be the best to answer this, perhaps a diff user who is NOT using the PMD could separate the two.
eta: I would think since they have one with "lightening ingredients in it" that this one does NOT address that on its own. |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:26 pm |
| Tiny wrote: |
Ethel,
I do think the PMD is responsible for the skin coloration corrections happening! As I said earlier RL does have a product with lightening in it and that is not what I am using. I also think it contributes to the firming I am feeling, a one two punch in a way, the serum is firming but so is the microdermabrasion. Hope that makes sense.
DM is also using the pmd as well, so she might not be the best to answer this, perhaps a diff user who is NOT using the PMD could separate the two.
eta: I would think since they have one with "lightening ingredients in it" that this one does NOT address that on its own. |
Tiny, if you had to pick between RL or PMD, which would you choose? |
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Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:46 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
| Tiny wrote: |
Ethel,
I do think the PMD is responsible for the skin coloration corrections happening! As I said earlier RL does have a product with lightening in it and that is not what I am using. I also think it contributes to the firming I am feeling, a one two punch in a way, the serum is firming but so is the microdermabrasion. Hope that makes sense.
DM is also using the pmd as well, so she might not be the best to answer this, perhaps a diff user who is NOT using the PMD could separate the two.
eta: I would think since they have one with "lightening ingredients in it" that this one does NOT address that on its own. |
Tiny, if you had to pick between RL or PMD, which would you choose? |
Yikes, why would I need too, they do two completely different things. One exfoliates, ones skincare? I can't answer this, it doesn't make sense to me to choose. |
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:14 am |
| Tiny wrote: |
| bethany wrote: |
| Tiny wrote: |
Ethel,
I do think the PMD is responsible for the skin coloration corrections happening! As I said earlier RL does have a product with lightening in it and that is not what I am using. I also think it contributes to the firming I am feeling, a one two punch in a way, the serum is firming but so is the microdermabrasion. Hope that makes sense.
DM is also using the pmd as well, so she might not be the best to answer this, perhaps a diff user who is NOT using the PMD could separate the two.
eta: I would think since they have one with "lightening ingredients in it" that this one does NOT address that on its own. |
Tiny, if you had to pick between RL or PMD, which would you choose? |
Yikes, why would I need too, they do two completely different things. One exfoliates, ones skincare? I can't answer this, it doesn't make sense to me to choose. |
Just asking because some people may not want to spend the money for both, and need to make a choice between the 2. |
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:25 am |
| I have purchased the RL only, because I already have a ton of exfoliators that do a really good job. I think as long as you get rid of the dead cells, all is good - whichever way you do it? |
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:28 am |
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| I have purchased the RL only, because I already have a ton of exfoliators that do a really good job. I think as long as you get rid of the dead cells, all is good - whichever way you do it? |
Karenlee, will you or are you using just the Reluma product then? I look forward to hearing your updates with this product. |
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:28 am |
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Just asking because some people may not want to spend the money for both, and need to make a choice between the 2. |
And some may not be able to use the PMD at all (broken capillaries!). |
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:00 am |
| rileygirl wrote: |
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Just asking because some people may not want to spend the money for both, and need to make a choice between the 2. |
And some may not be able to use the PMD at all (broken capillaries!). |
I do get that Riley and I do get some can't or don't want to spend money on both. But that wasn't the question, it was if I could use one? I find that hard to answer, since I am using both. But I agree with Karenlee, if your already exfoliating, then I'd do the serum. PMD isn't going to moisturize my skin. |
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Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:37 am |
| Tiny wrote: |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| bethany wrote: |
Just asking because some people may not want to spend the money for both, and need to make a choice between the 2. |
And some may not be able to use the PMD at all (broken capillaries!). |
I do get that Riley and I do get some can't or don't want to spend money on both. But that wasn't the question, it was if I could use one? I find that hard to answer, since I am using both. But I agree with Karenlee, if your already exfoliating, then I'd do the serum. PMD isn't going to moisturize my skin. |
Tiny, sorry for not phrasing my question clearly.
What I meant was that if people could only buy one of the 2 products (PMD or RL), based on your experience which would you recommend that they start with?
Based on your answer to KL above, it sounds like you would pick the RL over the PMD. |
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