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Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:39 pm  |
When I say the results are 'immediate' I think that's a bit misleading. I don't mean instantly like a peel, but I do mean after several hours. It's a slow working exfoliant because of the larger molecules.
BTW Tamgirl - What do you think of the Rosehip cleanser? Personally I'm not liking it very much, but I'm SO particular about cleansers. I dislike 99.9% of them. |
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Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:33 pm |
| Molly wrote: |
When I say the results are 'immediate' I think that's a bit misleading. I don't mean instantly like a peel, but I do mean after several hours. It's a slow working exfoliant because of the larger molecules.
BTW Tamgirl - What do you think of the Rosehip cleanser? Personally I'm not liking it very much, but I'm SO particular about cleansers. I dislike 99.9% of them. |
I've only used the cleanser once so it's really hard to say. I don't even really remember much about it, but I'll try to take more notice when I use it next time. I bought it to try during the time before and after my TCA peel, since it doesn't have any harsh ingredients in it. I don't plan to do my peel for another two weeks though, since I'll be in the sun a lot this weekend (labor day, yeah!!!). I'll report back after I've used it a bit more though! |
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Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:30 pm |
Oooh I got a bunch of questions....
| Molly wrote: |
| I'm SO particular about cleansers. I dislike 99.9% of them. |
What cleanser have you liked the best? I'm using the Rose Hip also, I don't love it or hate it so far, but it's only been a week.
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| My long-term plan is to eliminate 3 small scars (2 acne and 1 chicken pox), refine my pores (like Deb's) and to eradicate a few small moles (w/Super Cop 2x/strong acid punch). |
What kind of acid are you using after the Super Cop 2x? So your routine is to use the Super Cop at night and an acid in the morning? Does this essentially "burn" away the scar/mole? What kind of mark is left in it's place?
Thanks guys! |
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Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:41 pm |
Hey, sushi secret (need to find a sushi place, pronto).
I can't remember which cleanser Molly's using right now but I've been using Devita's Aloe Vera cleanser that has a Ph of 6, which is very close to the skin's normal level and contains no detergents or nasties. However, it does have some essential oils so that might irritate certain people. I believe she is waiting for a report on people's experience before trying it herself. So far, I love it and am very happy to have stumbled across it.
Now, for scar healing, I haven't yet started it but the plan is to use Super Cop 2x as a spot treatment (applied with a toothpick) to the targeted areas only and not the surrounding skin. Then, in the morning I will treat in the same manner but with a very strong acid but I haven't decided on which one. Again, it's a very specific application but what basically happens is that the SP 2x rebuilds the skin (scabs over generally) and then the acid removes layer by layer of the old stuff. It's not an overnight thing but can happen fairly quickly and yes, it's essentially burning away the mole/scar with the new skin (like a baby's) pushing up. Does that make sense? |
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Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:29 am |
Hi Sushi
I've decided to revise the 99.9% statement to 100%. I don't have a cleanser I like at the moment. I was using the Janson Beckett one for some time, but I've gone off it lately. Not keen on the PSF green tea, nor the Cellcosmet purifying gel (luckily).
I've never even heard of Scalawag's cleanser before. I wonder if she's confusing me with the 'molly' on the Skincareboard because that's not me I've got another username over there. |
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Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:31 am |
Yes, I am certainly confusing you with the other Molly! Oops!
So, you now know about Devita. 
Sorry for the mix up. |
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Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:45 am |
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| Sorry for the mix up. |
 it's fine, quite funny. I have different names on all the boards. I enjoy confusion.
I'm not buying another cleanser til I finish this one. I put a stop to my compulsive cleanser purchasing years ago. |
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Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:24 pm |
| Molly wrote: |
| it's fine, quite funny. I have different names on all the boards. I enjoy confusion. |
Haha.
I think maybe the reason I don't notice anything major with the Rose Hip cleanser is because it's so gentle compared to the junk I was putting on my face before! Because a cleanser alone shouldn't really yield results like an active right? |
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Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:53 am |
There's a 30% discount over on
http://www.betterhealthyskin.com
They don't say why nor how long for. Maybe it's a Labor Day (week) special. It just pops up in your shopping cart.
Good time to stock up on Mandelic. |
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Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:17 am |
Molly, I wonder, if it's already over because I just checked it out and nothing's showing up even to the window where you input your CC information.
Can you confirm at what point the discount was visible?
Thanks,
Tricia |
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Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:21 am |
Damn! the discount's finished.
I filled my cart - came over here to post - went back to finish the purchase and my cart was empty. Refilled it - NO DISCOUNT  |
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Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:24 am |
Well shoot! I'm sorry you missed out on it because you were obviously very close!
Thanks for trying, though. |
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Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:08 pm |
| Just got my mandelic acid. Can't wait to see if I get results. I also go a sample of the Super Copx2. I did not know this worked on pores. I've used regular Super Cop for about 2 years on moles and raised scars with success but haven't generally put it on my face. |
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Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:48 am |
| Mandelic acid is most likely also the basis for Dr. Haushcka's cleansing cream. Mandelic acid is made from bitter almonds. "Mandel" means almond in Swedish (and other Nordic languages) as well as German. |
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Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:18 pm |
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| What kind of acid are you using after the Super Cop 2x? So your routine is to use the Super Cop at night and an acid in the morning? Does this essentially "burn" away the scar/mole? What kind of mark is left in it's place? |
Sushi, I've ordered the TCA 20% from Platinum Skincare to use for the CROSS method. It's POWERFUL stuff so I will only be leaving it on for a yet-to-be-determined time and then rinsing off.
I tried SuperCop 2x last night on any scar and mole I could find on my face. I did apply my diluted CP serum and emu/HA first, though, so this did buffer the SC2x. All was okay this morning though each spot that I treated was a tad pink. After my morning routine, though, all was back to skin color. So, tonight I am going to do this again and every night until either my scars loosen or my skin starts screaming at me.  One spot has almost all but dried up! |
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Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:52 pm |
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| Mandelic acid is most likely also the basis for Dr. Haushcka's cleansing cream |
Hi Anna
I know it comes from almonds, but I don't think it's likely to be the basis of the Dr H CC because firstly it would need to be extracted, processed and highly concentrated to get the acid and the Dr H is just the nut itself ground up and then to work it would need to be acidic which the Dr H clearly isn't.
Almonds in skincare are somehow a very attractive idea for me though, I must admit that's partly why I chose it not just the science. |
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Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:11 pm |
I've been using this product for only a few days and it really does look like it is making a difference in my pothole pore and a raised pore under my eye.
Hope it continues! |
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Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:24 pm |
| Well, I've used the mandelic a few more times now and it did dry my face out a bit more than I had hoped. I didn't get flaky or anything, but my skin just looked a bit stripped. The lines above my lips looked deeper so I've decided to start using this only on my cheeks and nose. Unfortunately I really haven't seen much of an effect on them yet, but I'm still hopeful that I will with some more time. I was out of town the last 3 nights so I have some making up to do with this and my BQ. I definitely can see that this stuff would be helpful to those with extra oily skin. I guess only time will tell if it will truly help my englarged pores since I'm normal/dry. I'll report back after a few more weeks. |
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Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:09 am |
That's a real shame Tamgirl. Did you try putting something over the top to help it penetrate, preferably emu, or HA. If it's doing nothing that makes the effect more intense.
I didn't use it for a few days myself because the sun index was 12 so I laid off AHAs, but the rain's returned so did it again last night and I'm completely WOWed. It even tightens and smooths my eye crumples (orbital bone, not inner eye area) in a plumping way not like a gel. And it's not drying me out anymore.
I'm completely addicted |
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Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:34 am |
| Molly: are you using this serum near your eyes? I could use help with the orbital bone line (it's OK except when I smile big and get the crumples). I haven't used it near my eyes because I was afraid it was too harsh. It has really helped the pores near my nose. I'm seeing a definite smoothimg although I have started to flake a bit. |
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Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:21 pm |
I am flaking a bit too... So I was wondering if I can mix my Mandelic 15% Serum with a little bit of water to make it less strong.
Will this work? Does diluting the acid with water make it less strong? |
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Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:44 pm |
Hi Sharky
It does feel strong going on, but I think that's the alcohol more than anything. It is after all supposedly just gentle surface exfoliation because of the smaller molecules. Unless you use it every day or twice a day then I guess it would penetrate deeper. I'm not using it every day so I thought it would be OK for my outer eye area. It looks good, but whether it's cosmetic or long-term I can't say. I'm not sure anything in the world would stop expression lines showing when you smile though. It's not something I'd even bother trying to fix. The lines I'm trying to fix are long-term sleep crumples at my outer eye corners where my cheeks fold in. Frownies fix it, but I want something more permanent. I'm going to try the Supercop 2x there and soon I think I'll try the stronger glycolic as your suggestion. I think they should work in tandem rather well.
The thing I like about this stuff is where I have slack skin it tightens it, but not in a 'gel' tightening way, which I find uncomfortable. I've been exercising one side of my face next to my eye thinking it must be the muscle that's making the skin a bit slack, but the pore tightening thing pulls it back into shape. So, it must be a skin thing rather than a muscle thing.
I'm sure it would make it weaker Shantel or you could just moisten your face, but I suppose the effect will be weak too.
If you're flaking why not cut down the usage to every other night or so?
I've stopped flaking even when I've used it two nights in a row. It's either because I'm more used to it or I'm well moisturised at the moment and I'm not using any other exfoliants. I'm putting it on, waiting for 30 mins (or nearly) and then topping with either emu or PSF's ALA in squalene. |
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Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:31 pm |
scalawaggirl,
How is the TCA/Super Cop business going? |
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Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:42 am |
| Thanks Molly. Ill try a bit right on the bone line. I do not mind the lines when I smile more the bagging under my eye that shows the skin is getting less flexible. But for the moment that only happens when I smile big. |
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Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:36 am |
| Thank you, Molly. |
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