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Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:12 pm  |
Do you guys take any internal supplements for the skin health like hyaluronic acid or msm, vitamin c, vitamin e, or zinc etc?
What do you think about the vague link between excessive hyaluronic acid and cancer? Do you think supplementing with hyaluronic acid is safe to do and all? It sounds great for joint health in general too, not just for skin.
Also, how do you make a serum with hyaluronic acid. Can you just take the powder out of the pills and dissolve it in water? It also is said that ascorbic acid degrades hyaluronic acid, so do you make sure to use it at opposite ends of the day if you use a hyaluronic acid serum and a vitamin c serum?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyaluronic_acid |
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:53 pm |
Hi BYRG - I just read a long, disturbing article yesterday in the WSJ warning about supplement usage. I was already aware of some of the info provided, but it seems that as more and more tests are done regarding supplements, the more troubling and complex the news gets. I don't know if taking a couple of HA pills a day is harmful or not (this wasn't one of the supplements mentioned in the article), but the bottom line is that so far, many tests have shown that some supplements can do more harm than good, some have been proven to be useless, and that there's no substitute for eating fruits and veggies. No big surprise there! Dosage is of course a factor, but judging from the astounding and ever increasing numbers of supplements sold every year, the conclusion could be drawn that people are overdoing it. These things are chemicals after all, and aren't benign substances. I wish I could provide a link, but I only get the printed WSJ and don't subscribe to the online version. Anyway, it generally talked about the most common supplements taken, but it would be very interesting to read a similarly comprehensive report that included more. It should be noted that advocates of supplementation generally dismiss any report of this nature by The Wall Street Journal because it's a business publication. But companies that sell supplements are businesses too, and sometimes publically traded ones as well. I don't share skepticism based on that kind of reasoning.
I have to say that the article gives me pause when it comes to eating Total cereal every morning since it's fortified with supplements. And I really really hope that topical vitamins aren't doing me any harm either! |
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:45 pm |
| Thanks. I don't get the WSJ though. Can you tell me what it said? Harmful in what way? By overdoing it and getting too much of some vitamins that are toxic in large doses? Or just anything being harmful that is not part of a whole natural food complex? Harmful is a little vague. Like what exactly? |
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:50 pm |
Hello again BYRG - I've picked through my garbage just for you to find Monday's edition but it must be in a bag in the basement (four floors down). I want to read it again so maybe I'll dig it out before garbage day.
The WSJ offers a free (online) trial subscription. You may want to check it out and read it for yourself. The article was in Monday's Personal Journal section. Like I said, it mainly addressed the most commonly used supplements and I can't remember everything it said, so I'm reluctant to try relaying any info and end up getting it wrong. Definitely worth a read, though. |
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:48 am |
Here's a link to the story--it was reprinted in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. (I think the WSJ free trial requires you to actually subscribe with all your info, and then you get 2 free weeks online).
"The Case Against Vitamins" by Tara Parker-Pope
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06079/673520.stm
If you google it, you'll find lots of comments, editorials, and responses to it on various health-type websites. |
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:03 am |
| Thank you tularyn - You spared me from picking through more garbage to dig this out! |
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:17 pm |
Thanks tularyn and m.april! Interesting. I've always been leary of isolated compounds and nutrients. I only take ones that I know that I am low in from my diet and only at RDA levels, like B-12 and Zinc. I have read things before about overdosing on anti-oxidants being bad and all. Overdosing on anything really is usually bad. Too much can be just as bad or worse as too little. Whole food complexes though are a different story, they have the whole food, are the whole food, so are in balance already. Like Camu Camu berries for high vitamin C or Rice Bran or Red Palm Oil for vitamin E etc. Of course you can get too much even just overdoing fresh vegetable juices, but you would have to eat a lot to overdo it. I think plant sources are safer in that regard.
I heard that starchy root vegetables as a staple was the reason why the people in the Japanese village had so much more hyaluronic acid in their systems. Maybe that's a better way to go, I like yams.... ; ) |
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