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Wed May 31, 2006 9:44 pm  |
This is from the skinbiology website forum:
"I did something a little nutty to test the products. I took an eyebrow brush and brushed a deep line/wrinkle on my neck vigorously. It turned very red but did not bleed. Than i treated it with exfo serum every morning and super cop every night. After only 2 weeks i noticed it is 50% less visible. I am happy with that! Maybe i can get rid of it completely by repeating this procedure! However, i am not sure if i want to do this to my face unless i can hide for two weeks Confused?"
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Reply by Dr. Pickart-Inventor of Skin Remodeling Copper Peptide:
"This sounds like a great idea. Abrasion helps reduce wrinkles but the problem is what to use. An eyebrow brush would abraid the depressed skin and speed remodeling."
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Skin biology staff's reply at a later date:
"Dear ***:
We are looking into this and would like to know exactly what kind of eyebrow brush you used...Do you happen to know the brand? Or the type of bristles/hairs? Or even where you purchased it would be helpful.
Thanks!
-Skin Bio Team"
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Poster's response:
"Hello Skin Bio,
It was also a generic eyebrow brush..perhaps Maybelline and i also bought it at cvs. I think the bristles are actually plastic....i just did it again on a tiny line on the corner of my mouth and am attacking another line on my neck. I find this really helps penetrate the exfo serum and than after the 30 minutes i apply the super cop. After two weeks they look so much better...and i suppose if i go over them again.."
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Well I've been using the CPs for over 6 weeks now and have been aggresive and safe as I can be with the abrasion. Not using a brush but a dermabrasion cream. Really been aggressive with my neck area. and I am happy to say, I have a NEW NECK! Almost all the rings are gone and I also add it to my chest area and that has been transformed! I had bad creases there and they are gone! There is really something to these SRCPs
I've said it before on other threads, SRCPs, AHAs and abrasion can really make a difference with wrinkle reduction. Right now my AHA is a Glycolic Peel every few weeks and I use Revive cream with 8% Glycolic Acid nightly along with the SRCPs. And the dermabrasion is Modern Friction by Origins and I rub like crazy on my neck. Will be switching to Microdermix soon. I'll be aggressive but more careful with that. |
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Wed May 31, 2006 9:50 pm |
 That is crazy, potentially that could leave a scar! I think it would be more safe just to stick to peels, there are many out there. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:23 am |
| Interesting but I'm with Daniel and I'll hold off. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:19 am |
| Waaaaaay over the top for me... ga ga land |
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Location: Denmark. Me = 32, think I'm combo without oiliness + sometimes sensitive. Have noticed that skin doesn't heal as quickly anymore and I've developed fine lines around my eyes... Hormonal breakouts which are sometimes cystic. PCOS |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:20 am |
| My point is the ABRASION is really helping. So finding a method that you can do OFTEN will really attack those wrinkles. If I can find a dermabrasion method that is safe enough to do every other day, that would really make a difference. The cream I use now is effective but the particles are rather large and not as many as a reg microdermabrasion cream. Also would it be worth it to get one of those battery operated dermabrasion brushes. They even sell those a drug stores. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:31 am |
| wenrwdy I am trying to understand this. It seems like you abrade your skin which causes damage, then you apply the copper peptides which go to work repairing the damage and the end result is that the skin is in better shape (less noticeable wrinkles, firmer) that before you abraded it because the copper peptides help with proper wound/damaged skin healing. Would my understanding of this be correct or am I missing something? |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:56 am |
EXACTLY. Your skin truns into overdrive when it is trying to heal something.
Retin A is keeping your skin in a constant state of irritation to help turn over cells quicker, ya know?
But I did a 50% Glycolic Peel and I think that is too much. I'm going with 1/2 that more often.
Trying to keep the skin cells BUSY. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:21 am |
| wenrwdy@aol.com wrote: |
But I did a 50% Glycolic Peel and I think that is too much. I'm going with 1/2 that more often.
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Peel is too much but self-mutilation isn't?
Self-abuse in the name of science? Surely you could have found a scrap on your elbow or knee.. (lord knows I always have some boo-boo going somewhere.) |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:59 pm |
| I am not the one who rubbed her skin with a brush. that was another persons's quote. We were talking about abrasion and my way will be with microdermabrasion. Many people use that. Is that considered self mutilation? |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:12 pm |
| This is why I SWEAR by a microfiber cloth! I even got my mom using one and she has less wrinkles from it. I use it every single day and have loved it since the first day I tried it. I got the idea from ebay. They had an ad for the "original microdermabrasion cloth". I never bought one, I never bought into the hype that it was "dermal" quality. I had a four pack that I bought at walgreens that I use. My face has never looked smoother, clearer... in fact this is one of the things that has helped permanently (knock on wood) clear up my skin. Its really great on blackheads. You can have a look on ebay for microdermabrasion cloths to see how it works and all the testimonials but you can save money and try a clean new ordinary microfiber cloth. It doesn't irritate my skin either but its the best exfoliation I've ever gotten. It may not be as strong as an eyebrow brush but the microfiber really picks up the dead skin, dirt, grime, makeup, ANYTHING thats in the way of fresh new skin. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:43 pm |
| PhoebesMeow wrote: |
| This is why I SWEAR by a microfiber cloth! I even got my mom using one and she has less wrinkles from it. I use it every single day and have loved it since the first day I tried it. I got the idea from ebay. They had an ad for the "original microdermabrasion cloth". I never bought one, I never bought into the hype that it was "dermal" quality. I had a four pack that I bought at walgreens that I use. My face has never looked smoother, clearer... in fact this is one of the things that has helped permanently (knock on wood) clear up my skin. Its really great on blackheads. You can have a look on ebay for microdermabrasion cloths to see how it works and all the testimonials but you can save money and try a clean new ordinary microfiber cloth. It doesn't irritate my skin either but its the best exfoliation I've ever gotten. It may not be as strong as an eyebrow brush but the microfiber really picks up the dead skin, dirt, grime, makeup, ANYTHING thats in the way of fresh new skin. |
Are these clothes you use Phoebe made for your face or for the kitchen counter?  I'm just wondering. I bought a pack specifically for my face, in fact, it was exactly one of these clothes that I almost took my face off with a year ago (figuratively, of course) while using Retin-A.
Now I use one once in a while but never did find them to be especially exfoliating. Maybe the type I have are cheap or not strong enough unless of course I'm using a retinoid then they are far too effective. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:26 pm |
I too have used microdermabrasion towels as well as Copper Peptide (Super cop) and it does work pretty well. It's hard to know which one works the best or if it is a combo of all of them. I have done TCA peels and use Retin-A as well.
I'm at odds with all of this though. I recently bought some Dr. Hauschka products and one is supposed to be pretty gentle with the skin with these products. I don't know how they work or IF they work with Retin-A or Copper Peptides. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:16 pm |
I use the ones that are for the kitchen counter. I just never bought into the fact that there were "dermal" grade ones (for your skin) out there that REALLY made any difference. It works great for me so I decided not to try the "dermal grade" ones sold on ebay for 4 times the price. I bought mine at walgreens in a four pack in a box that advertised "As seen on tv!" and such. Very nice quality and I made sure to use the one on my face brand new (not after being used on the kitchen counter). Infact here is the walgreens link to the ones I got
http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100467&navAction=jump&navCount=0&id=prod375539
I am just very pleased with the results, not too rough, but a good amount of exfoliating, and I use it everyday. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:35 pm |
| PhoebesMeow wrote: |
I use the ones that are for the kitchen counter. I just never bought into the fact that there were "dermal" grade ones (for your skin) out there that REALLY made any difference. It works great for me so I decided not to try the "dermal grade" ones sold on ebay for 4 times the price. I bought mine at walgreens in a four pack in a box that advertised "As seen on tv!" and such. Very nice quality and I made sure to use the one on my face brand new (not after being used on the kitchen counter). Infact here is the walgreens link to the ones I got
http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100467&navAction=jump&navCount=0&id=prod375539
I am just very pleased with the results, not too rough, but a good amount of exfoliating, and I use it everyday. |
Thank you!!  Very cool that the ones for cleaning the kitchen are just fine for the face! |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:01 pm |
| wenrwdy@aol.com wrote: |
| I am not the one who rubbed her skin with a brush. that was another persons's quote. We were talking about abrasion and my way will be with microdermabrasion. Many people use that. Is that considered self mutilation? |
Apparently I misread your initial post. I thought it was you. And obviously microdermabrasion isn't self mutilation, I don't beleive I referred to it as such. |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:21 pm |
| Perhaps this works for some but I would be leary of treating my skin so aggressively. All my life I have treated my skin gently. If I ever feel I need more aggressive treatments I will leave it to a professional. |
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Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:47 pm |
| PhoebesMeow wrote: |
| This is why I SWEAR by a microfiber cloth! I even got my mom using one and she has less wrinkles from it. I use it every single day and have loved it since the first day I tried it. I got the idea from ebay. They had an ad for the "original microdermabrasion cloth". I never bought one, I never bought into the hype that it was "dermal" quality. I had a four pack that I bought at walgreens that I use. My face has never looked smoother, clearer... in fact this is one of the things that has helped permanently (knock on wood) clear up my skin. Its really great on blackheads. You can have a look on ebay for microdermabrasion cloths to see how it works and all the testimonials but you can save money and try a clean new ordinary microfiber cloth. It doesn't irritate my skin either but its the best exfoliation I've ever gotten. It may not be as strong as an eyebrow brush but the microfiber really picks up the dead skin, dirt, grime, makeup, ANYTHING thats in the way of fresh new skin. |
Hi PhoebesMeow, what brand are your microfiber cloths? I can't find any at Walgreens.  TIA! |
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Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:56 pm |
| I don't think any of this is so crazy. Abrading of the skin would certainly encourage cell renewal and enable products to penetrate skin effectively. Of course, any exfoliation method should be used with good sense otherwise we'd all be scrubbing at our faces with Brillo pads to get rid of our wrinkles! I have one of those battery operated exfoliators and it works very well but I would definitely consider a more invasive method on my neck wrinkles if it could bring results. |
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:05 am |
| so in essence thats what the dermaroller does. by needling the skin it not only allows for penetration of skin product so they can work more effectively but it causes your skin to build more collagen making wrinkles less prominent. |
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:17 am |
| lucyluc wrote: |
| so in essence thats what the dermaroller does. by needling the skin it not only allows for penetration of skin product so they can work more effectively but it causes your skin to build more collagen making wrinkles less prominent. |
Absolutely right! I think that the concern with brushing the skin with something would be that you might actually scratch the skin which could lead to infection and scarring. |
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:04 am |
didn't catch what this test actual meaning.
she just brush a sign on her neck with a brush, but why it could be kept for two weeks because it is not a wound. |
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:31 am |
| Sometimes Walgreens has these and sometimes not. You can look for them elsewhere too like, Walmart, Costco, RiteAid, Target...any place that sells cleaning products. |
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:11 am |
| I use part of my Japanese cleansing/bathing cloth that I read about on another thread eons ago when I need more help with the flakies or more abrasive scrubbing w/o flaring up my rosacea. The Clarisonic was too much and these work great! Followed by a few drops of copper and a little emu oil every few nights and rotating that in betweeen my IS Active Serum and I swear my skin is looking way better. Or is my Fraxel finally kicking in? Nah, it's got to be the other. |
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:15 pm |
I am adding this to my routine as well.
I'll be scrubing nasolabial lines with eyebrow brush and salicylic acid during the day (before my Vit C), then SuperCP at night. |
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:25 pm |
| AnnieR wrote: |
| I use part of my Japanese cleansing/bathing cloth that I read about on another thread eons ago when I need more help with the flakies or more abrasive scrubbing w/o flaring up my rosacea. The Clarisonic was too much and these work great! Followed by a few drops of copper and a little emu oil every few nights and rotating that in betweeen my IS Active Serum and I swear my skin is looking way better. Or is my Fraxel finally kicking in? Nah, it's got to be the other. |
What's a Japanese cleansing/bathing cloth?
Thanks. |
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