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Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:50 pm  |
Although this is my first posting, I have to admit that for the past several months I've become addicted to reading everything on this forum! I'm overwelmed by the knowledge & advice given by all the members, and I'm hoping that maybe some of you can help with some issues I'm having using the ISC line.
About 2 months ago I decided to try ISC because of all the rave reviews I had been reading here. I purchased the products recommended by skinterra: cleanser, super, hydracool,sunscreen moisturizer,active & eye complex.
Within a few weeks of using these products I started noticing that my pores looked larger & had a strange orange peel texture to my lower cheek area. My skin is very congested & I've been trying to clear out the impurities with OCM & DHCC (I think I'm addicted to them too!)
Am I doing too much all at once, or is this just part of the purging process that I should be patient with?? I was really hoping that ISC was going to work for me, but right now I sure have my doubts. |
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:58 pm |
| Wow that's a big investment in IS! Having used or tried samples of all, I've not had that problem. Yet it certainly could be a lot of exfoliating or skin turnover at once. Maybe someone else has had this problem but you could be going thru a purging process. The OCM might be the culprit if you weren't doing it before the IS as it seems to have the opposite effect on me to clog the pores and cause breakouts. I can't do it, but that's a personal observation and many have had great results. Hope it works itself out and you are happy w/ the products. |
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:46 pm |
If you're using IS Clinical cleanser PLUS OCM & DHCC, I'm rather certain that that's where your problem lies.
OCM & DHCC together is a bit much. Doing it AND using a cleanser is off the charts. My guess is that what you're seeing is a result of serious irritation/inflamation - especially if your skin is congested.
I would lay off the OCM and DHCC, and try just sticking to your IS Clinical regimen for several weeks. Give the actives a chance to do their job. Hopefully, that will work for you. |
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Mon May 01, 2006 1:36 am |
| I second katee's suggestion, you definitely want to simplify the cleansing routine. If you find that doesn't resolve the irritation problem for you, you might want to stop using all of the active products and use some gentle skincare for 2-3 weeks (just a simple cleanser, moisturizer and sunscreen). Then, when your skin has calmed down, you can start your IS Clinical regime again, and should hopefully love the results. |
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Mon May 01, 2006 7:11 am |
I agree w Annie R - the OCM gave me very large pores as well. It cleansed my skin OK, but seemed to make my skin worse in the long run, so had to stop using it.
My skin is back to normal now after using Vivier cleanser and Pro-Heal. |
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51 years old/brunette/normal- oily medium skin. |
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Mon May 01, 2006 8:15 am |
Thank you so much for all your advice. I thought I might be overdoing it with the cleansing,but I could see that the OCM & DHCC were actually removing the impurities, so it's been difficult to stop. Will the ISC cleanser or some other brand help clear my skin?
I ordered the Pro-Heal last week, will try substituting it for the Super Serum for awhile & see what happens.
I also have the firming complex, but haven't figured out how to put it into my routine without overdoing it. I tried it over the Active a few times but found that in the morning some of the skin above my upper lip seemed puffed up between my lip lines, so I discontinued doing that. I was really hoping that I could use this product since it seems to address many of the problems of mature, aging skin.
Sorry for the long post, but I have another question: when layering these products, do I let the actives sink in for awhile before adding the HydraCool & moisturizer? |
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Mon May 01, 2006 8:29 am |
I frequently use the Firming Complex over the Active Serum at night. When I do, I don't bother with the HydraCool; the Firming Complex provides more than enough moisture for me.
Conventional wisdom says it's good to leave a few minutes between when layering products. Sometimes, I manage to do that, but almost NEVER in the morning - I'm always running around like a crazy woman trying to get out of the house!!! It certainly doesn't appear that this has mitigated the effectiveness of the products at all...
I did have one thought based on kls' description of her skin... Do you really need HydraCool AND moisturizer??? I know that some people do; I most certainly do not though... |
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Mon May 01, 2006 9:13 am |
| I talked to a spa owner today who carries the line, and she said that it is up to you if you want to use the hydrocool over the serums. She just uses a moisturizer. |
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Mon May 01, 2006 5:57 pm |
Katee,
I have a question, I noticed you said you use prevage in the am before u use the super. Since I have now gotten the super, active, firming and hydracool, I already have an idebenone product I like, but its a cream so wouldnt putting that on first stop the serums? I won't start using these till next week ( I am almost over a bout with hives related to allergic reaction to meds  ) I figure my skin needs to be ummm a bit more normal. oh and btw my skins not sensitive, oily nor does it react bad Skinceuticals .5 A, so I assume I'll be fine with the actives but plan to start slow on the active and the firming (if I can manage to control myself)..sorry so long winded.
Thanks for the help
Melissa |
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Tue May 02, 2006 5:38 am |
I'd agree with her cookie - I don't think you need both. The benefit of the HydraCool is that it also has some kojic acid in it, which is a nice brightner. I had stopped using it for a while in the very beginning, cause I didn't like the feel of it. I had a lovely oil absorbing lotion from La Mer, and thought I could get away with that. But the fact is, within a week, I saw the difference and went back to the HydraCool. I still think it has a certain yuck factor, but it's nothing I can't live with....
Melissa Marie... to answer your question, I really think it depends. The cream won't counteract the IS Clinical Serums; the only question is the order in which you apply them. Prevage MD specifies that you should apply it first, before your serums. At first, I thought that odd - conventional wisdom is that you apply thin to thick, right? But, I checked with my derm and she emphatically agreed - Prevage first. In fact, she said it acts as a carrier, making the serums more effective.
I'm not sure if that is necessarily true about your cream. It depends on what's in it in addition to the idebenone. If it is principally a moisturizer that just has the idebenone as one of its ingredients, then I'd save it for last. Whatever you do, leave a little time between layers. Let us know how it's working for you.... |
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Tue May 02, 2006 6:56 am |
| You might also try not using the firming cream for a few days and see if that helped. I tried samples of it first and it made me breakout and my skin a mess, just too much. The IS Clinical people whom I emailed said that sensitive skin should not use it as it can cause negative reactions. I was so disapointed after hearing Katee's great results layering with the Active. That's why I am on to Prevage MD, looking to add that last bit of firming, plumping. Seems to work so far. With adding the whole line at once, it makes it hard to pinpoint. I also gave my IS cleanser to my son in college. Again, just too much with the other actives, so went back to Cetaphil. Loved it, a little too drying and aggrevated my rosacea. He loves it when he remembers to use it. |
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Tue May 02, 2006 11:12 am |
Thanks Katee and Annie,
I broke down and started this morning with super, hydracool, then ideb...i checked my bottle and its 1% ideb, what happened is isomers sold it right before prevage came out with theirs, and then ummmmm seems prevage got all pissed and isomers stopped selling it but I had already stocked up and ur def right, it does something which is very hard to explain, but I had put it away and havent used it for a long time but figured ur results were so good, I'd follow ur program since I have the products. My product is very yellow and not really a cream replacement just purely the ideb in a cream base. So thanks again and I'll keep reporting as a few weeks go by on my progress. And sorry to say that isomers had to stop selling it to keep all happy, it was a great price, but seems they all work with same pharmacutical companies and tend to work at keeping each other happy. Heres what I plan on doing...if anyone has better suggestions let me know:
am:
ideb
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hydracool
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hydracool
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Tue May 02, 2006 11:54 am |
For your pm sequence, use the firming complex before the hydracool....
sounds like a good routine to me ! |
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Tue May 02, 2006 1:27 pm |
Thanks for the info Katee, also thanks to Annie, Katee, ect..for all ur updates and continued help to the rest of us. I hope I can report fab results in a few weeks....heres hoping!!! I might just skip the hydracool in pm and see how it goes.
Melissa |
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Tue May 02, 2006 1:34 pm |
Hi everyone  I was wondering, Would I still use my vit. c if I were using proheal? |
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Tue May 02, 2006 1:55 pm |
| no, pro-heal has 15% vit c so it wouldn't be necessary. |
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