Removing Fine Lines and Broken Capiliries
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Mon May 29, 2006 5:03 pm

My mother recently tried a product that remarkably and miracoulously removes fine lines and broken capiliries. I had neever seen this before and don't know af any other products that do this except for surgery.

Here is the link you can check ipforlife dot com/rivageonline

and some product info @ rivageline dot com

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 5:10 pm

What exactly is the products your mom is using? Is it "AHA Anti Age Gel"?

Mon May 29, 2006 5:13 pm

Yes and the cream mud facial mask, the cleanser, the toner and the night and day creams, she actually likes the product and prices so much, she bought the whole line and tells all her friends about it

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 5:24 pm

Is you mom selling these products by chance?

Mon May 29, 2006 5:27 pm

No. She heard about them through a spa

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 5:43 pm

I e-mailed that link to my derm/med spa and the doc replied that there is NO product that can remove them superficially, only cover or fade a red mark topically. Veins and caps HAVe to be lasered or saline injected in order to be dissolved. Sorry I have to be a sceptic. And believe me, i want to think that they can, having spent $$$$$ on IPL's. Now fines lines, retinol can reduce.

Mon May 29, 2006 5:47 pm

Sceptics are good. But at the same time, the only way to know for sure if the product helps is to try the product. You do realize that this product is 100% natural Dead Sea Minerals right?

Mon May 29, 2006 6:23 pm

Of course a dermatoligist would say that, if there was a product that worked like this, alot of laser places would be closed wouldn't they?

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 6:24 pm

Calgaryboy,

It sounds like you are selling it either for yourself or for someone else. What does Dead Sea minerals have to do with it? Have you been to the Dead Sea? I have. Smearing mud on your face straight off the beach does not work! I don't care how they package it (sand, mud, clay) it's nothing more than MAYBE a clay masque and that's it. It won't lessen capilaries at all. But since it's from the "Dead Sea" people think that miracles will happen.

The only thing that worked for broken capilaries was IPL (Photofacial) period. No cream, no acid, no scrub, no mud and no mineral ever worked. My stepfather is a plastic surgeon (plastkirug) here and he referred me to a dermatologist that he works with. BOTH of them said the same thing. Why would they lie?

The Dead Sea mud probably makes for a good facial masque for pore cleansing but as for your claim that it heals broken capilaries I find that to be, quite frankly a lie.

One aspect that I find interesting is that if you are NOT selling something and neither are your friends or mother why are you so determined to convince others about this product? Wouldn't you just inform us and let US decide?

Mon May 29, 2006 6:27 pm

I see no reason for such hostility and accusations. I AM NOT SELLING THE PRODUCT, neither is anyone else I know. I am just trying to let people know about this product. I am just stating what I have seen. Perhaps it reduces capiliries, but still it works from what I have seen, there is a difference between a sceptic and someone who just complains and accuses.

Mon May 29, 2006 6:27 pm

And yes it does work on capiliries

Mon May 29, 2006 6:29 pm

I never said it heals broken capiliries, I said it removes them....big diference.

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 6:44 pm

No, not a big difference.

Have you ever had a broken capilary?

If you claim that a product "heals" something that means it isn't coming back. If you cut yourself and put a bandaid or salve/ointment on it and it "heals" that means that it goes away, right? So suddenly when I ask about what you meant with your statement regarding this product you are backpeddling and saying otherwise? You wrote in your first post that "it miraculously removes fine lines and broken capilaries" but NOW when I questioned you about that you are saying that it doesn't heal them (capilaries)?? You are a snake oil peddler.

You also have the nerve to imply that I didn't understand your postings. You know exactly what I meant and I know exactly what you wrote. My English isn't THAT bad.

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 7:13 pm

Yup, no topical will remove broken caps.

No, non-script, topical will remove fine lines. Vit A might but it's a script and you also have to use s/s and, depending on what caused them, change your expressions and don't forget sunglasses if the lines are around your eyes.

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 9:12 pm

that doesn't sound right. broken capillaries lie underneith the skin and would need a lot more than just a product to completely remove them. the IPL treatments use an elecrical pulse to remove them, and if you need something that strong to remove them at a spa, it only makes sense that a product to put on the skin would not have the ability to miraculously vanish them.

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 9:22 pm

From my understanding, I don't think topical could completely remove broken cap.

free skin care · Mon May 29, 2006 9:29 pm

Calgaryboy has moved on probably to another website to sell his "mother's" miracle cream...

He was very keen to defend his product but as soon as real questions were asked he left this forum.

In statements he wrote "perhaps it reduces capilaries" in another it says "it reduces capilaries". And lastly it says that "it heals broken capilaries". His last comment was that this cream "removes" the veins. Really? How is that possible? Is this a surgical procedure? The ONLY way to truly remove a vein is through surgery, period. One can reduce the look of the vein but it's still there and can come back depending on each person. This poster though said that it would remove the veins. I find this very VERY hard to believe. Then this snake oil peddler goes on to state after I asked about this (in his last post) that he never said that it healed broken capilaries. Brick wall

Mon May 29, 2006 10:17 pm

Wow I try to reccomend a product to the people in this forum and all I get our negative responses and name calling (SNAKE OIL PEDDLER), I admit I am not a doctor and I was merely letting you know about a product that from what I seen is magnificent. You have never seen the results, yet you choose to insult me and the product, as the old saying goes It's better to be considered a fool, than open your mouth and prove it. Fine maybe it doesn't completly remove broken caps, but if it works at making them disappear even temporarily, wouldn't that make it good? Unless your going to find something to say about this now. Rolling Eyes

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 7:55 am

If you re-read my post, I did not attack you. I just made the comment that nothing topical can remove/heal a cap w/o treating the underlying problem. It can cover as in a makup. We would all love to have such a product. Dead sea minerals could possibly temporarily tighten and exfoliate the epidermis, but not affect a vein or cap. Topical flushing, such as rosacea, can be affected, with using niacin and vit B products but that does not affect caps. Maybe you meant to state that, but wrote the wrong thing?

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 6:25 pm

Oh yeah, you're not trying to tout this product line?

Here's what a quick search on Google came up with:

Pioneer Thinking Discussion Boards (http://www.pioneerthinking.com/cgi-bin/mb/YaBB.pl) Mind and Body

Skin Care

Dead Sea Minerals Great For Your Body (Message started by: calgarycowboy on May 17th, 2006, 4:20pm)

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Title: Dead Sea Minerals Great For Your Body
Post by calgarycowboy on May 17th, 2006, 4:20pm
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Rivage.......it's new, it's hot and people can't get enough of it. If you haven?t heard of Rivage, it is a line of cosmetic and skin care products manufactured using only the all-natural minerals from the Dead Sea. The mineral ingredients have natural revitalizing and rejuvenating therapeutic properties which help with Acne, Anti-Aging, Skin Conditions, Wrinkles and more.

One lady tried it and she had broken capiliries on her face, and after a 15 minute mud mask, they were gone. Now she uses it every week.

It removes wrinkles, crowsfeet, acne and leaves you feeling refreshed and relaxed. There is a full line of skincare, hair care and body cae products. It worked for me. If this sounds interesting, check out there sitewww.ipforlife.com/rivageonlineI am not trying to advertise, I just think everyone should know how to get this great product.

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I am so sorry, It is SO clear that you have some sort of stake in this company--anyone who comes on this site and their only posts are touting one product line as a 'miracle' line CLEARLY has ulterior motives. And if, for some reason, you just happen to be an innocent observer of these miracle effects and want to convey them to us, then you're just going to have to deal with us skeptics.
This forum is for knowledge and experience sharing, and ANYONE on EDS will tell you that there is NO WAY to get rid of broken caps other than IPL, and even that treatment is not 100% effective. WE all know, from experience and from sharing waht we know with one another, that this is just the case.
The line you are recommending looks nice, but it seems to me that it is just a standard clay and mineral based line that is fine, but not MIRACULOUS. just formulated along with the rest of the lines in the same labs. Any company which refuses to list all the ingredients on their site is, in my opinion, not worth buying.

You are transparent and worse, shameful to keep insisting on your innocence.

avalange

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 6:28 pm

AND it wouldn't be merely a coincidence that the canadian distributor of rivage is in Calgary, would it? Rolling Eyes

It is people like you who undermine the integrity of boards like this...
Stay at the trade shows, and while you're at it, you might want to cultivate a bit of subtlety~

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 7:27 pm

Like I wrote to him he/she/his mother is a snake oil peddler. The second that he wrote that his mother tried it and told all of her friends and such is when the bells in my head went off. I started to think, why would the SON of a woman of such "miracle" products care as much as this guy did? He seemed awfully keen to let others know about this miracle cream. He then changed his tune when I asked him about his comments. Later he backpeddled when I called him on it. Suddenly the product changed.

Don't buy this product. Don't believe what "he" says. Period.

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 7:40 pm

You gals are detectives!!! Smile

that's why I love EDS Smile

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 7:48 pm

What quite frankly makes me laugh is that Calgarycowboy never learned to spell "capillaries" correctly. He is touting this product for reduction of this area and yet every single posting he makes regarding this word is mispelled.

I don't know how to spell capillaries personally but then again my first language is NOT English. I think that Calgarycowboy's is though. Maybe he spent too much time at the Stampede and now his brain no longer functions. I cannot believe that he thought that he could come on here and lure people into his lies.

A snake oil peddler indeed!

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 8:03 pm

you guys totally crack me up Laughing

good job!!

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