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Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:24 am  |
Hi all,
I've a moustache  . There, I've said it. Although it's not like I'm Captain Kangaroo or a member of the Village People, it's an issue for me. Seven or eight hairs are very prominent whilst others a kind of wispy--the overall effect is not noticable, save the 7-8 hairs that really do look like ropes to me.
For years, I've been plucking out the offenders, once in a while I'd wax but mostly I have just been cursing my fate.
I'm finally willing to admit that I know that plucking damages the hair follicle such that it can get inflamed and lead to hyperpigmentation (for people of color). Electrolysis is not a sure shot, might take quite a while (1+ years), could lead to more scarring and lasering is tricky for those with high melanin counts.
What should I do? |
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:38 am |
| I had dark facial hair on my chin before I had laser, and before that I plucked for years, and it caused dark pigmentation that looked like a 5 0'clock shadow. I'm caucasian. It took it several months, but it finally went away. |
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:16 am |
| I've also lasered a few very dark chin hairs which took about 5-6 treatments. It was only $5 per treatment since it was one little zap each time. However, I tried lasering the darker blonde (although to me their noticeably brown) hairs above my lip and didn't have any luck. I probably treated the area 5 times as well and it all grew back. I think the problem I have is that even though most of my "fuzz" is dark in this area, the root tips are white and so the laser is ineffective. I have the same problem with my stupid arm hair which I LOATHE! Until someone finds a way to permanently remove my tiny brownish/blonde mustache fuzz, I'm just plucking here and there as well. |
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:58 pm |
| Waxing or plucking is the way I go. I think like my eye brows if I keep plucking, eventually I will ruin the hair shaft and it will not grow back. I have seen this already. damn hair |
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:30 pm |
| threading is an excellent way for removing facial hair. i get my eyebrows done every 6 weeks and mustache/chin once every half year. it lasts pretty long actually! to me, it isnt as painful as waxing.. just little pinches while the beautician's doing it and it takes 3-5 minutes each area and the hair grows back finer i think |
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:02 pm |
Electrolysis
It hurts, it costs $$$ and it takes some time, but, it will never grow back and *any* type of hair can be treated.
I did this for my mustache and annoying robust sideburns and it's still one of the best things I've ever done for my looks. |
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Mid 20s. Oily/Combo skin. Fighting wrinkle and blemishes. |
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:56 pm |
| Agave wrote: |
Electrolysis
It hurts, it costs $$$ and it takes some time, but, it will never grow back and *any* type of hair can be treated.
I did this for my mustache and annoying robust sideburns and it's still one of the best things I've ever done for my looks. |
It is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO painful!! Worst experience of my life!!  |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:35 am |
ouch, I guess no pain no gain.
my mom had it done a couple years ago, I remember her face was swelling up for almost a week. she had very sensitive skin. |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:27 am |
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Electrolysis
It hurts, it costs $$$ and it takes some time, but, it will never grow back and *any* type of hair can be treated |
I agree with Agave - I asked a derm and was told that while lasers are promising enough time has not passed to see if hair removal is actually permanent. Electrolysis remains the only permanent solution.
Consider using a topical pain reliever before  |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:36 am |
I am African American and I have several chin hairs that I have been plucking for years. Well, lo and behold, the dermatologist has told me that is the worst thing I could ever do. It upsets, for lack of a better word, the follicle and then I incur the wrath of an ingrown hair. After that I have discoloration and that is not a pretty thing. She has suggested laser but has also told me that I cannot pluck, tweeze, wax, or Nair for 4 weeks prior to having laser done. The only acceptable method of hair removal is....shaving. I feel like my grandfather all puckered up in the mirror. Not to mention that the hair grows over night!
Threading the hair on my chin and upper lip was perhapt the second most painful experience in my life. Threading my brows isn't so bad, although I have to do it every two weeks...three weeks at the most, and that's with some fine tuning from home.
I'll keep you posted with the laser results.
Wish me luck. |
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:23 pm |
| For those that have had electrolysis, how many treatments did it take before you completed permanent removal? What were your skin reactions right after treatment and how long did they last? Also, I don't fully understand how they can zap the teeny tiny fine blonde hairs since the follicles have to be so small. I've been thinking about this for a while but would like a bit more info. Thanks everyone! |
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Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:06 pm |
| I don't SHAVE, i just trim and then bleach with my trusty ol Joven hair bleach. The couple of hair above my lip is then completely unnoticeable. |
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Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:20 pm |
| TAMgirl99 wrote: |
| I've also lasered a few very dark chin hairs which took about 5-6 treatments. It was only $5 per treatment since it was one little zap each time. However, I tried lasering the darker blonde (although to me their noticeably brown) hairs above my lip and didn't have any luck. I probably treated the area 5 times as well and it all grew back. I think the problem I have is that even though most of my "fuzz" is dark in this area, the root tips are white and so the laser is ineffective. I have the same problem with my stupid arm hair which I LOATHE! Until someone finds a way to permanently remove my tiny brownish/blonde mustache fuzz, I'm just plucking here and there as well. |
This is going to sound really weird, but I've found that whatever part of my body I wax or pluck, the root of the hair changes from white to black, over time (not overnight!). So on my eyebrows, I know I'm overplucking if I'm pulling out hairs with white roots. It takes time to change the root colour, but it does change. This has happened to other parts of my body too. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I a freak? Because if this is common, then maybe you could wax until the roots change colour and then laser them? |
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Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:48 pm |
| Verdigris wrote: |
| TAMgirl99 wrote: |
| I've also lasered a few very dark chin hairs which took about 5-6 treatments. It was only $5 per treatment since it was one little zap each time. However, I tried lasering the darker blonde (although to me their noticeably brown) hairs above my lip and didn't have any luck. I probably treated the area 5 times as well and it all grew back. I think the problem I have is that even though most of my "fuzz" is dark in this area, the root tips are white and so the laser is ineffective. I have the same problem with my stupid arm hair which I LOATHE! Until someone finds a way to permanently remove my tiny brownish/blonde mustache fuzz, I'm just plucking here and there as well. |
This is going to sound really weird, but I've found that whatever part of my body I wax or pluck, the root of the hair changes from white to black, over time (not overnight!). So on my eyebrows, I know I'm overplucking if I'm pulling out hairs with white roots. It takes time to change the root colour, but it does change. This has happened to other parts of my body too. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I a freak? Because if this is common, then maybe you could wax until the roots change colour and then laser them? |
verdigris--you're definitely not a freak. seems that medical experts insist that plucking or shaving or waxing does not make hair grow back thicker, but in my experience, this isn' true. all the hairs i have ever messed with on my face and body, grows back with a vengence. i read somewhere that plucking or shaving or whatever nonpermanent method, somehow stimulates the roots and flushes blood there, thus feeding the shaft of the hair somehow. i know some people get opposite results from me too--one of my close friends waxes her mustache and it grows back lighter and lighter each time. lucky her. i really think it depends on the person whether hair grows back the same, thicker, or thinner.
also, i read from some laser hair sites, that many people complain that lasering hair on the face (particularly peach fuzz) has caused enormous hair growth to return. one lady said her peach fuzz turned into a full beard and she ended up doing electrolysis to undo the damage. doctors say this is impossible, but it doesn't seem like medical advancement has reached its overall high with hair. |
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about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:21 am |
so far I've had my underarms, upperlip, chin (rather embarassing but it needed a few zaps), bikini and legs lasered. luckily no extra hair growth on my face due to lasering! the RN who does my lasering still does electrolysis in her clinic. she does feel lasering is less harmful to the skin when correctly done. something about the heat generated during electrolysis travelling down to the follicle can be more harmful to the surrounding skin. sorry, never did inquire extra info about it.
I'm asian and so far no discolorations and especially for my underarms and bikini, it's the best thing I've ever invested in. supposedly certain lasers are more suitable for darker skin. perhaps go in for a consultation at a few places to see if laser or electrolysis is recommended for you. I do have a co-worker who is darker skinned and has had really good results with laser facial hair removal.
as far as the clinic I go to, it was never promised laser hair removal is forever esp. with women since we go through hormone changes in life. |
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Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:52 am |
I really want to get laser on my chin too, as embarassing as it sounds  But unfortunately I have developed some coarse/dark hair there due to PCOS  I would also have to agree with everyone that has said other methods such as plucking & waxing do make hair more coarse...this has definitely happened to me!  |
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Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:12 pm |
| what is PCOS? |
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about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:26 pm |
i found the forum where a patient said the lasering made her hair worst! "By the way...I previously did laser on my face (10 treatments) and I had terrible results. The laser actually stimulated hair growth and I now have thick, dark hair growing all over my face and even some on my neck!" from http://www.hairtell.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB1&Number=20193&page=0&fpart=all
there are some other people on there who experienced the same thing, this is scary, i am never lasering facial hair now! |
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about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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