At home IPL machine?
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free skin care · Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:06 pm

I was at the derm a couple weeks ago and he said I needed about four sessions with IPL to clear the small amount of acne marks and broken nose capillaries. Anyway the treatment is 300$ per session. I was wondering, is there anyway around this, like a machine I can use at home for instance? I'm cheap haha

Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:43 am

I would guess that IPL machines are *very* expensive Daniel and you have to be properly trained in order to use them. I would suggest that you ask around and find a cheaper place instead. If I can get IPL hair removal done on underarms and some other areas I won't mention Smile

for AU$155/session then surely you can get such a small area done for less! It is the same machine that is used (AFAIK).

free skin care · Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:25 am

I've seen used machines for sale (salon grade) that start at 3000.00 and up, and then there are the bulbs, tips, etc. That makes it pretty expensive, plus you need training and a medical license to obtain numbing cream (which I would not recommend going without). I don't think I could IPL myself, I'd quit after the first one or two, cursing the thing.

free skin care · Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:34 am

I have my IPL's done without the numbing cream. I'd be afraid I wouldn't be able to "feel" if there was a problem or not, like the machine set too high or something. I tend to experience bruising anyway, but can keep this at a minimum by actually feeling if it's a bit too much for me or not. There is a little more pain involved, but I just feel safer without it! Smile

free skin care · Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:55 am

My tech does a test point on me every time to adjust my setting before she puts on my numbing cream. If my skin is not hydrated enough, it shows and she cranks it down lower. My hat's off to you to be able to tolerate it w/o the cream, I'm just a big Wuss!!

free skin care · Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:28 am

I'm planning to buy a machine from China, but waiting for my agent to help me. They are a huge manufacturer and have machines in different price ranges. They have customers in many parts of the world. I'll be buying a portable model that weights 18kg the price for the machine including one treatment head is very good, I already paid much more for my treatments (I can choose between hair removal, acne and vessels, and one for dark spots).

The reason for the low price is that their machines are still not FDA or CE approved they are only approved by the Chinese FDA and they are on their way to get approved in EU and the US. As soon as they get approved the prices will rise at least double or triple.

free skin care · Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:50 am

mimiek, that sounds really cool. If you know how to work the machine, I imagine all your friends will be going over to your place. What's the name of the company you're buying from?

daniel, you're a young guy and it's summer right? Here's another option: medical -- or in this case cosmetic -- tourism. See the world and get treatment. For example, I know a great place in China that does 6 sessions of IPL (full face) for 1200 USD. And Mabsy's place sounds really good, too. Do the math, and you might be able to get treatment and a vacation. Some might be afraid the service/standards lack, but the place my girlfriend goes to in China completely beats out my expensive San Francisco derm (hence now ex-derm).

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This is making me think of other cool beauty things I've found in China. Here's one of the coolest.

My girlfriend didn't like her calves. She thought the calf muscle went too far down on her lower leg, so her legs didn't look that delicate. Well, she found an acupuncture place, and the acupuncturist changed the shape of her calves, I'm not kidding. Her calf muscle went higher up, retreating from her ankles. Now that's cool.

Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:38 am

I wasn't offered numbing cream either - bummer! I'd have taken it! Smile

RMB - that is really intersting! Just done purely with accupuncture?

free skin care · Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:39 am

Yes, purely through acupuncture. My SO went for once-a-day sessions for a few weeks and had needles stuck all over her body. She would then lie there with the needles in her for a good while, before they were removed and she could leave.

There were other women getting acupuncture, too. These were all young, attractive Chinese women getting weight-loss acupuncture. I wouldn't have called any of them overweight, though. I remarked about this to the acupuncturist, and she said if you're overweight you see the most progress; it just happened to be she didn't have any overweight customers.

The whole experience really opened my eyes to the cosmetic uses for acupuncture. For example, if I had a problem with my weight, I would definitely first try weightloss acupuncture before any surgical procedure.

Oh, and you know the best part? All my SO's sessions added up cost just a little over 100 USD.

Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:50 pm

RMB wrote:

Oh, and you know the best part? All my SO's sessions added up cost just a little over 100 USD.

Next time I'm there I will have to be prepared and do some reaserch before I go. I wish I'd have known last time. I wonder if they can make me gain weight.....

free skin care · Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:53 pm

I went in and had the eltromagnetic accupuncture today for neck tension and jaw clenching. Wonderful, I can feel it already. My son had it yesterday for his teeth grinding (I guess it's a family habit) and he's going back on Monday for accupuncture for his allergies and the second installment of his grinding. It seems you can get it for just about anything! Maybe it can numb before the IPLS.

free skin care · Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:33 am

Re cosmetic/medical procedures in China -

I'm sure there are many reputable places, but you need to be REALLY careful. There's not a lot of medical regulation and way too much corruption.

Here in Hong Kong many women are suffering horrendous complications (including complete removal of breasts) after receiving in China what they were told were "natural" injections to increase breast size. The substance in fact was PAAG, a non-biodegradable gel that is almost impossible to remove. (Think injecting a silicon like substance direct into the breasts without the implant capsule/covering)

Oh, and this procedure was being (and still is apparently) done in beauty salons as well as by "qualified doctors" in major hospitals.

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