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I need a pH balanced, detergent-free cleanser!
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:29 pm      Reply with quote
Any suggestions? I have combo skin.

I'm currently using Aveeno Ultra-Calming Foam, which I quite like, but I don't know the pH and it has a nasty detergent in it and I do not want to compromise my skin's acid mantle.

I'm also using Dr. H's Cleansing Milk (but it feels like it doesn't clean enough)

Dr. H's CC was irritating my skin so I had to stop using that.

Thanks Bad Grin
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:48 pm      Reply with quote
Water and an old microdermabrasion cloth. Even works if you pile the slap on like me Wink

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Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:49 pm      Reply with quote
Hmm.. what about Zenbiotic's cleanser? I don't know anything about PH but I think it's detergent-free and it cleans a bit more thoroughly than DR. H's Cleansing Milk. Not too spendy either.

HTH! Bad Grin

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Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:57 pm      Reply with quote
http://www.shopzenyaku.com/shop/1002.html

not sure about the pH balanced part, but this is real gentle.

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Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:06 pm      Reply with quote
Yonka's Gel Cleanser - not sure about pH but definitely organic and detergent free. Earth Sciences is a good health store brand and I LOVE their toner - their cleanser also looks great. If you check them out I think the pH is on the bottle - the toner has a pH of 4, not sure about the cleansers. But I'm pretty sure they're detergent free.
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:06 pm      Reply with quote
I say the Yonka Gel nettoyant too. Ive found nothing thats as gentle and effective as it. The fragance is pleasant and the consistency is really easy to massage on the face.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:40 am      Reply with quote
Another vote for the Yonka Gel or the Cellcosmet Purifying Cleanser, which is quite similar.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:36 am      Reply with quote
I like Clinique's Comforting Cream Cleanser or La Vitton Oil Cleanser.
Don't know about the PH though. My skin is sensitive and these 2 products do not irritate it.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:44 am      Reply with quote
If you at all have sensitive skin I would not recommend a microdermabrasion cloth. I bought one and used it for two weeks and although it felt nice in the beginning after awhile I noticed small reddish veins appearing. These went away but it took months and Dr. H Rose Cream every day.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:13 am      Reply with quote
I would recommend Primavera's Cleansing Milk or Refining Exfoliating Cleanser. Both very gentle with excellent organic and biodynamic ingredients. I absolutely love them. I would have recommended Dr H as well but you said it irritated your skin. I find the Primavera products to be extremely soothing and non irritating as they are gentle enough even for sensitive skin.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:32 pm      Reply with quote
I would highly recommend either the Ice Elements cream or gel cleanser.

Both are ph balanced, contain no detergents are gentle and effective.

The cream cleanser is also hydrating as it contains squalane, where as the gel cleanser has a squeeky clean feel afterwards but is not drying.

You can find these at http://iceelements.com and also at http://hsn.com and http://tsc.ca

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Bosoxy wrote:
I would highly recommend either the Ice Elements cream or gel cleanser.

Both are ph balanced, contain no detergents are gentle and effective.

The cream cleanser is also hydrating as it contains squalane, where as the gel cleanser has a squeeky clean feel afterwards but is not drying.

You can find these at http://iceelements.com and also at http://hsn.com and http://tsc.ca


Aloe Vera, squalene, vegetable glycerin, Antarcticine™, vitamins A & E, ginseng and green tea.

What exactly cleanses skin in this formula? Seems like just a moisturizer.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:51 pm      Reply with quote
Yonka Gel Netoyant is detergent based.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:03 pm      Reply with quote
OK, here is what's on my list so far:

GoW Mild N' Clean Castille Cleanser (this seems perfect!)
https://shop.gardenofwisdom.com/displayProductDocument.hg?productId=1022&categoryId=209

Biovera Liquid Soap (hear good stuff about this)
http://www.aviva.ca/shop/products.asp?itemid=4238&catid=161

PSF Green Tea Facial Cleanser (it just looks like a moisturizer and not a cleanser AND has a paraben in it: Methylpropylparaben; has Witch Hazel as well, still like to try though)
http://www.psfskincare.com/prod01.htm

Spectro Gel (might be too mild though. people say it doesn't feel like it cleanses thoroughly; a clean alternative to nasty cetaphil!)
http://feelbest.com/pages/spectro.aspx
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:27 pm      Reply with quote
You might want to look into DHC products; most are pH balanced. Washing powder and cleansing oil come to mind. Also, you can buy litmus paper to test whatever soap you use to test pH.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:32 pm      Reply with quote
spacake--from your list the only one I've used is PSF. It does apply like a moisturizer...meaning it doesn't foam at all, but it leaves my skin really clean and residue free. Another cleanser I like is Diana Yvonne Rose Hip Cleanser. It is pH balanced and detergent free-and although the ingredients may seem geared more toward moisturizing, it really works at cleaning, especially when used with a washcloth. Here's the link if you're interested:
http://dianayvonne.com/product/CSC22_8
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:43 pm      Reply with quote
Jala wrote:
spacake--from your list the only one I've used is PSF. It does apply like a moisturizer...meaning it doesn't foam at all, but it leaves my skin really clean and residue free. Another cleanser I like is Diana Yvonne Rose Hip Cleanser. It is pH balanced and detergent free-and although the ingredients may seem geared more toward moisturizing, it really works at cleaning, especially when used with a washcloth. Here's the link if you're interested:
http://dianayvonne.com/product/CSC22_8
hth


I've read that both the Rose Hip and Wheat Germ Cleansers from DY are not the original formulas and to stay way away.
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:59 pm      Reply with quote
Oh great Rolling Eyes I hadn't heard this. Geez, maybe I'll just start using plain old water and a microfiber cloth. Well, then, I don't know what to tell you...good luck with your search Bad Grin
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:49 pm      Reply with quote
Jala wrote:
Oh great Rolling Eyes I hadn't heard this. Geez, maybe I'll just start using plain old water and a microfiber cloth. Well, then, I don't know what to tell you...good luck with your search Bad Grin


Check out DY's forums.

Finding a "clean" cleanser that doesnt degrade your skin barrier is very hard, but there are some out there and you MUST SEARCH ON, SISTER Bad Grin
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Water and an old microdermabrasion cloth. Even works if you pile the slap on like me Wink


Wow, how ridiculous, no offense, but just water? Laughing
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Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:24 pm      Reply with quote
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Bosoxy wrote:
I would highly recommend either the Ice Elements cream or gel cleanser.

Both are ph balanced, contain no detergents are gentle and effective.

The cream cleanser is also hydrating as it contains squalane, where as the gel cleanser has a squeeky clean feel afterwards but is not drying.

You can find these at http://iceelements.com and also at http://hsn.com and http://tsc.ca


Aloe Vera, squalene, vegetable glycerin, Antarcticine™, vitamins A & E, ginseng and green tea.

What exactly cleanses skin in this formula? Seems like just a moisturizer.


Hi!

If you are really interested in how the mix of ingredients interacts to cleanse the skin, I suggest that you ask Shelly at the Ice Elements message board.

I personally use this product and it cleans my skin without stripping it. I no longer have any blackheads that plagued me for years... nor do I have the flaking or ashiness that I once had.

The formulation is so gentle that I use it on my eye area without a problem, yet it takes off my eye makeup without a hitch.

Take care.
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