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Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:36 am  |
| HI EVERYONE : I asked about this a while ago in another topic but I can't find it. I was wondering how I can exfoliate if I am not supposed to use aha in fear of broken caps. I am worried if I keep using my pumpkin peel my caps will get worse. Does anyone have any good recommendations? |
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:40 pm |
| Would love to know the answer for my chest. I've even stopped using a wash cloth. I just use a Eucerin cleanser for red skin with my bare hands and tepid water, followed by the corresponding night and day lotions. No new broken caps... but no way to exfoliate. |
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36, skin in a "new" phase? Oil/break-out free but now having bouts of sensitivity and surface dehydration. |
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:16 pm |
| Let me just add that I am looking into Pevonia's Rosacea line...which might have a safe exfoliator for skin prone to broken caps. Will post back if I find something worth trying... |
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36, skin in a "new" phase? Oil/break-out free but now having bouts of sensitivity and surface dehydration. |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:09 am |
| I've been looking into that also, the mask anyway. Let me know what you find, I'd love to hear. |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:56 pm |
Here in Australia there are two gels I've used. Minerva Green Tea Marvel Gel and Bio Essence Gel. These are exfoliators that get rid of the "cornified" layer of skin.
I normally use the Green Tea one, but this time I bought the Bio Essence one and I'm not 100% sure yet, but I think it leaves my skin softer.
It is just a gel that you put on your face and lightly rub for 1 minute and the skin just clumps off. There's no scratching or anything, it's very gentle and very quick.
Also the clumps forming in the gel isn't a gimic. I've used the gel after and aspirin mask and it got no clumps, obviously as the skin had already been exfoliated. Someone in another forum wrote how they rubbed it on a desk to see if it was just some chemical reaction to make you think it was the skin, but it wasn't.
Kylie |
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:27 am |
 I think Dermalogica's Daily Microfoliant is very good, which is for sensitive skin and also for every day use, it contain the rice could help brighten the skin as well.. |
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:39 am |
I use Ice Elements 2 minute miracle exfoliation gel, which may be good for you as it is extremely gentle. It sounds like it is similar to the one that starkers mentions... it is a gel that you smooth on lightly and then rub and your dead skin cells and oil clump up and fall off.
If you are interested, I would go over to www.iceelements.com and either post in Ask Brenda or Ask Shelly to see if it would be good for you or just give Shelly a call and ask her (the number is in Florida US) and if it is right for you you could have them send you a sample to try.
I am not sure where you live, but I know that they ship to US and Canada... not sure about anyplace else...
I hope that this helps. |
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 *****My 5 Star Rave***** Just loving everything about ICE ELEMENTS!!! You HAVE to try the 2 minute miracle exfoliating gel... It is to die for! |
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:15 am |
razinkane I have been looking into the enzyme exfoliation thing since it is supposed to be good for sensitive skin. Here is a link to the brand that I have been considering:
www.actifirm.com
I am still researching this to see if I want to try it and have no idea if it would be appropriate for skin that is prone to broken capilaries but you could always look into it. If you decide to try it please post your results.
tiger_tim also raves about the Roc Peel which is also an enzyme peel. Here is a link to her review of this:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=12101&highlight=roc+peel
The Roc is a lot cheaper but I think that I might be allergic to one of the ingredients and am reluctant to give it a try until I find out for sure about my ingredient allergy. |
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:10 pm |
| LandB wrote: |
| Let me just add that I am looking into Pevonia's Rosacea line...which might have a safe exfoliator for skin prone to broken caps. Will post back if I find something worth trying... |
Bumping this up as an update. I'm currently using the Ligne Rose line from Pevonia for the broken caps on my chest and IT'S WORKING. Will post a review in the Products Review forum. Can't say that I have found a safe way to exfoliate my chest, but the Ligne Rose line seems to be enough to restore "health" to my skin in addition to shrinking the caps. |
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36, skin in a "new" phase? Oil/break-out free but now having bouts of sensitivity and surface dehydration. |
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:35 pm |
LandB,
You might want to consider Ice Elements 2 minute miracle to exfoliate your chest.. They just received fresh samples so they are up on the site for the cost of shipping, if you have not yet tried it.
Take care. |
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*****My 5 Star Rave***** Just loving everything about ICE ELEMENTS!!! You HAVE to try the 2 minute miracle exfoliating gel... It is to die for! |
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:47 pm |
| Bosoxy wrote: |
LandB,
You might want to consider Ice Elements 2 minute miracle to exfoliate your chest.. They just received fresh samples so they are up on the site for the cost of shipping, if you have not yet tried it.
Take care. |
Thanks Bosoxy! |
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36, skin in a "new" phase? Oil/break-out free but now having bouts of sensitivity and surface dehydration. |
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:36 pm |
I will put in my two cents, for what it is worth. I am fifty years old and should definitely know better. But, my dermatologist recommended a cleanser with Glycolic Acid (7%) ~ in her defense, because I do love her  , she said to try the cleanser and see if it worked for me. For about a month, I was blithely happy, using the cleanser and doing a Glycolic Mask (3%) twice a week. My skin had never felt so smooth and so soft. Silly  , but if I touched my face, I was amazed at the texture. After one month, I noticed something weird ~ my skin looked pasty and my capillaries stood out really prominently. Then my cheeks started burning and turned bright red. At first, I did not connect it to the Glycolic Acid as I had also switched to Sisley skin care and I thought maybe it was the Sisley (the Sisley was innocent, though). Finally, it just hit me like a ton of bricks; my son said, you know, your skin looked better at the beginning of the Summer; it is redder now than it was then. I thought, wow, I bet it is the cleanser and mask (DUH!).
I am long –winded, but this does have a point. I switched to my old skin care regime ~ I wash with a soothing mask (Sisley Facial Mask with Linden Blossom) and moisturize with Crème de la Mer. That is it, nothing else. I am done experimenting ~ my skin is slowly returning to normal, although some capillaries will need to be lasered.
My lesson ~ and I should know better ~ I have rosacea and very sensitive skin. I cannot exfoliate either mechanically or chemically. I did a Google search for Glycolic Acid and rosacea, there is some very interesting research being done that is trying to prove that over – exfoliating is not desired. The theory is that our skin cells are programmed to turn over a set number of times in our lives. If we speed up the process, we will use up our set number of turnovers prematurely. This theory actually has a name and if I find it again, I will post it.
Bottom line ~ I can’t exfoliate with rosacea and maybe exfoliation is overrated.
I still love Sisley and even though many people describe it as a very basic skin care line, I have found, in my research, that many botanicals that Sisley uses in its products actually have research behind them and some are even linked to preventing skin cancer.
Right now ~ I am avoiding anti-aging products, etc. to try to return my skin to some degree of normalcy.
If you stuck with this, thank you ~ I am very, very wordy (my husband considers it rambling, but, honestly what does he know!). |
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:48 pm |
| Charmed1 - I'm not questioning your assertion that the use of glycolics cause you problems, but there is one aspect of your post that struck me immediately. It's possible that you just didn't mention it. Were you using glycolics without sunscreen???? Cause if you were, it explains alot. So many of us who invest time and money in skin care products and procedures think that sunscreen is only necessary when it's particularly sunny or when they plan on spending considerable time outdoors. Neither is true. |
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:21 pm |
Thank you for your response ~ I have had a skin cancer removed from my nose, a basal cell carcinoma (hence, my interest in ingredients that might help to prevent skin cancer). I do not go anywhere without a wide-brimmed hat. I do not walk out the door without my hat and I avoid sitting near windows. At the time of this incident, I was using Sisley Botanical Facial Sun Cream. I grew up in an era where we did not have sunscreens and I taught swimming. I was in the pool from 10 - 4 most Summer days. I am lucky that my sun damage is not worse ~ but, I think the long term effect might have been skin cancer.
There are two possible culprits for my reaction ~ one would be Sisley and one would be Glycolic Acid. I did a Google search and it seems like many rosacea sufferers cannot tolerate Glycolic Acid products. I am very leery now of new products and just want to stick to my old faithfuls. I did stop the Sisley first and returned to my Crème de la Mer and my cheeks went crazy. Next, I stopped the Glycolic Acid. At first, I really did think it was the Sisley, but it appears not to be the culprit. Now, I have eliminated both Sisley and the Glycolic Acid and my skin is calm and returning to normal. I feel pretty confident that it was the Glycolic Acid. |
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:35 pm |
Just to clarify:
This really is just based on my personal experiences and my opinions based on these experiences. I have not found a successful method of exfoliating for my skin. I have, actually, found exfoliating to be damaging for me and to cause my capillaries to be worse. I do strongly advocate the use of sunscreens, I think it is the most important thing we can do for our skin. I just thought that based on my history of rosacea, broken capillaries, etc. that I would share my thoughts. |
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Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:31 pm |
I'm relieved to hear that you do use a sunscreen! I've learned that a hat, a sun umbrella, etc. just isn't enough!
BTW, welcome to the forum! |
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Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:20 am |
Hmm - I've struggled with the exfoliation/rosacea issue myself. Haven't come up with a good solution. I do know that when my skin is happy, the exfoliation doesn't seem necessary. So maybe we do overdo it. I tried dermalogica's microfoliant and while it seemed to work for a bit, I noticed more redness and so stopped. I am now trying Dr. H's cleansing cream, and I suspect this may be OK, but I often get my hopes up prematurely. For someone who has trouble with even a washcloth, getting skin truly clean/removing blackheads, etc is a real problem. Maybe Dr. H will come thru  |
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Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:44 pm |
| I have been using the pevonia peel and the b kamins earth mask, and I love both of them. I think the earth mask may take a slight lead because it leaves my face so light looking, no redness, not even on old acne marks. But of course, that is only temporary. |
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Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:43 pm |
| Epicuren makes an enzyme mask that really is great for exfoliating when things like broken caps prohibit manual exfoliation.... They have some lovely things in that line actually. |
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Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:55 pm |
| I do a skinmaster facial at my med/spa which is a manual exfoliation using ultrasonic waves and a superficial scraping, at least once a month. Very gentle, ultramoisturizing and recommended for rosacea patients. My esthetician will not do ANY micros on rosacea patients at all. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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