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Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:27 am |
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Winnie -- where do you order your extra bands (with increasing strengths)? i got a whole bunch when i originally bought it (another *huge* fan here), but i'm now out and the place i bought it from here in paris doesn't carry extras. is there somewhere i can buy online? |
I purchase my replacement bands from QVC. I also have seen them on Ebay. I will search around more for you.
fmvalentina,
I am happy that you posted your negative reaction to the FF. Forum members should be aware of your experience. Thank you for your post. |
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:05 am |
fmvalentina,
Could you please provide the link to that thread, or the link to that forum. It doesn't breaks this forum rules.
Thanks. |
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:52 am |
catski wrote: |
I'd love to find a brief routine that's tried and tested, that I can do, say, while watching TV.
Does anyone have a recommendation, please?
(I want particularly to do some neck excercise to stop turkey neck coming , and something to refine cheekbone structure.) |
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:31 am |
I have used facial flex for about four months. I don't have a lot of sagging but am trying to ward off the onset. I use it along with DMAE and a micro current device around the eyes in the morning. I haven't seen any damage from the facial flex. It is quick and easy. |
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:20 pm |
Oakview,
did you see any improvement?
Also, did you see any improvement in the eye area, and what type of micro current device are you using?
TIA,
Lucy. |
_________________ Early 50s, Skin: combin.,semi-sensitive, fair with occasional breakouts, some old acne scars, freckles, under-eye wrinkles; Redhead with hazel eyes |
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:34 pm |
fmvalentina wrote: |
sharky wrote: |
I do not believe the "reports" of bad results. I've looked on other boards and the "reporters" tend to be not long term members etc.
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So, I'm lying? I have nothing better to do than make up stories about how a random product damaged my skin? Sorry I'm not here long enough for you to believe me, please tell me what is the amount of time someone has to be a posting member of this board to be credible in your eyes?
Is this a requirement of this board or is this one lone members ridiculous belief?
Funny that the 2 deep dent marks that appear on the upper lip and are common to the people who have had negative experiences with this product are EXACTLY where the 2 white knobs are located on the Facial Flex when it's placed in your mouth. Maybe not so funny is that for the people who have been damaged, when you put the device back in your mouth and squeeze it, all of the areas around your mouth where the skin is squeezed are the areas where we developed dozens of fine lines. Coincidence, I think not.
I have been reading this board for several years. I don't have any grudge against this product except a desire to warn people who might not realize this product can cause damage, some of which is irreversible. If someone wants to go ahead and take the risk after what I wrote, go right ahead. At least you knew the possibility of damage going in. Sad to say, myself and many others didn't have that opportunity.
*sharky's* analogy with a broken leg is ridiculous when compared to stretching the skin and tissue on your face. I have a thread from another board with the comments from many women who were damaged. I could paste them into this thread but I don't know if it breaks the rules, which I wouldn't want to do, and I'm a bit uncomfortable posting people's comments without their permission.
To say I'm shocked by these comments by *sharky* is an understatement, but there's always one or two like this on any internet message board
I also want to say that *sharky* never said whether the exercises she does for her face are with this device or exercises like Carol Maggio advocates. For the record, I have never heard of one person having a bad experience doing facial exercises like the ones Carol recommends, but I have heard of dozens of bad reports of dents in the upper lip area and lines all around the mouth area from using the Facial Flex. |
I completely agree with you and I don't think someone with a different opinion should be made to look worse because of it. I mean, I have this horrible habit of lifting my eyebrows all the time and forehead wrinkles have developed because of it. I think doing that action even more would make them worse.. |
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:52 pm |
truce, people.
i'm waving the white flag, before this thread goes completely off topic and turns everybody off.
fmvalentina had her say about the negative effects of a product.
sharky had her say of that opinion.
fmvalentina defended herself.
let it rest. let it be.
can we please get back to the topic at hand?
otherwise, i'll just stop watching this and may miss some great tips, sites, and opinions. and that *would* be a pity. |
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Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:52 am |
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It takes me about 12 minutes. I don't do the nose. I skip over that one. I probably shouldn't. Once you learn them properly you can do them in the shower, watching tv, etc. They all become second nature to you. A part of your day. You'll be doing something and all of a sudden your doing one of these exercises. They are so simple and they don't take much time! Just fit them in. Anywhere! Linder |
Hmmmm....I have a 20 minute commute by car...if I learn these maybe I can do them on my way to and from work! |
_________________ 51, acne prone skin, fighting aging with all I've got! : ) |
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Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:12 am |
Preferences between Carole Maggio and FlexEffect/Deb Crowley? Curious which system works better. Sounds like Flexeffect takes longer. But does it work better??? Has anyone done both? They both are supposed to help the whole face, not just the jaw/mouth area like the Facialflex tool.
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Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:26 am |
I've done both. I find bits of both combined suit me best. I wouldn't say one is quicker than the other, but Flexeffect is more aggressive because it's building against external resistance (your hands and fingers) whereas Facercise is building with the gentler resistance of muscles against muscles. Some exercises from Facercise didn't suit my forehead, some from Flexeffect didn't suit my mouth and jaw. You have to find which ones suit your own physiology. |
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Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:50 am |
Thank you Molly!
PS The Maggio books is discounted on Amazon. Also there: a discounted dvd "The Tal Reinhart: Facial Workout," which gets good reviews. Don't know if the program is good, but the dvd is certainly less $ than Maggio or Crowley's which I have found only on their own websites.... |
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:46 pm |
Is there side effects of you do some of the exercises wrongly? I seem to have done an exercise wrongly for the eyes, now I have a loss of muscle tone, not sure if it is from the exercises.. |
_________________ Girl wif eyelid problem |
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:48 am |
DantesKing wrote: |
Is there side effects of you do some of the exercises wrongly? I seem to have done an exercise wrongly for the eyes, now I have a loss of muscle tone, not sure if it is from the exercises.. |
DantesKing, which facial exercise program did/do you do? I am seriously considering starting with facial exercises, and the eye area is definitely one of my major concerns. The last thing I need is further loss of muscle tone . Also, if you don't mind - how old are you? |
_________________ 44, oily T-zone, acne prone (PCOS) ~ Baby Q & Tanda (blue light) ~ Karin Herzog (Oxy Face, Vita-A-Kombi 2, Vitamin H, Eye cream) ~ PSF (Cramberry Eye Gel) ~ Pearl/Silk powder primer and mist ~ L2K ~ MMU |
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:24 am |
17 only.....I tried it for a week and it gave me a loss of muscle tone... Too overzealous.. |
_________________ Girl wif eyelid problem |
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:14 am |
DantesKing wrote: |
17 only.....I tried it for a week and it gave me a loss of muscle tone... Too overzealous.. |
17 !!!??? Do you really think you need to do facial exercises at such a young age?
Perhaps you just need to relax and enjoy your young skin. Protect it (sunscreen, hats, etc) and enjoy it!!
All the best!!
Rubby (42 years old and in need of facial exercise ) |
_________________ 44, oily T-zone, acne prone (PCOS) ~ Baby Q & Tanda (blue light) ~ Karin Herzog (Oxy Face, Vita-A-Kombi 2, Vitamin H, Eye cream) ~ PSF (Cramberry Eye Gel) ~ Pearl/Silk powder primer and mist ~ L2K ~ MMU |
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:32 pm |
Where can I get this tape? I want it too.
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linder wrote: |
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linder wrote: |
I do Carol Maggio Facercise. I have for about a year now. Great results. Linder |
Do you have the book, I think it may be 10 years old, or is there a newer version/ DVD? I have an older version of the book, but I am never good at keep it up. |
I have the DVD. I got that from her web site. The book is a newer version. I do the DVD once a day and then where I need the most help I do those exercises through out the day.Linder |
I also do Carol Maggio's regime and with excellent results I might add. Even if I go a couple of months without doing them.
I just pop in the tape an follow along. It's really great b/c my eyes open up more, my lips fuller and I seem to get an "instant" face lift. I highly recommend  |
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:01 pm |
DantesKing wrote: |
17 only.....I tried it for a week and it gave me a loss of muscle tone... Too overzealous.. |
How could exercises (overzealous or not) lead to loss of muscle tone? I don't understand. |
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:32 pm |
Dantes I dont think one week of exercises can do that Even if they are done wrong. I mean it takes yrs of facial expressions to form lines.
Seriously at 17 you dont need to be worrying about face exercise or wrinkles etc! Just look after your skin with sunscreen etc. |
_________________ 39, in Australia, using retin a, Skin actives I Bright and Antiaging Cream, change sunscreen regularly currently. |
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:46 pm |
I overstretched my eyelid muscle and I think IO tore some muscle cells as a result.. |
_________________ Girl wif eyelid problem |
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Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:31 am |
I do FlexEffect by Deb Crowley. Initially I did research on the web and narrowed it down to two programs Facercise and FlexEffect. I bought both programs, and for me FlexEffect is hand down far more effective then Facercise. I do a couple of exercises from Facercise, but everything else comes from FlexEffect.
FlexEffect is much more involved, includes resistance training with the hands. It is more strenuous, and it is recommended to do it for 30 min each day. However I think if you do it even for 15 minutes with a careful selection of balanced exercises, it is worth it, and still better then Facercise.
FlexEffect has forum specifically for registered facial builders dong FlexEffect. If you purchase their program (book + DVD), you can register as such... There are online trainers that give advise and other users to share ideas. This is my second month in FlexEffect trining, and I can see improvements in eyes, and cheeks. Do not have this sad tired look anymore, I actually like to look in the mirror now. And the best of all I expect that with the help of FlexEffect I will not need facial surgeries, face lifts done Just need to stick to it.... There are before/after pictures of actual users on flexeffect site.
Again, based on what you want to achieve it is an individual call what suites better for each of us. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:59 am |
mpstat, have you seen any improvements in the neck area? Do you do exercises for that area? What types are they? Thanks! |
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Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:43 am |
charis, FlexEffect has five or six neck exercises. One neck exercise on DVD and 5-6 in a book. Some neck exercises in a book are quite advanced with weights . And on Flexeffect board people report good results.
I did not get to the full set of FlexEffect exercises... and have not gotten to all neck exercises yet.... There are 45 exercises total.. I started with 14 exercises offered on DVD, and gradually expend adding other ones. I focus on areas of my primary concern (eyes & cheeks) first... and with doing only one neck exercise so far I am not well positioned to answer the question Again people on FlexEffect board did report positive results. well...
There is one neck exercise, "kiss the ceiling" that I was doing prior to starting FlexEffect, and I like this exercise. Is is a free exercise posted on ageless web site: "Sit upright, tilt your head back looking at the ceiling, while keeping your lips closed and relaxed. Start puckering your lips together in a kiss and stretch the kiss, as if you were trying to kiss the ceiling. Keep your lips puckered for 10 counts, then relax, bring your head back to its normal position and repeat 5 times." |
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Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:44 pm |
Arielle wrote: |
I was using Facial Magic for years. But, now since I'm older (56), I wanted something where I didn't touch my face and accidently pull the skin.
Here's a link to some that I absolutely love. Seriously, the one where you tilt your head back and "kiss" the ceiling is wonderful for the jawline and neck. For the cheekbones, there's always the lion's pose.
Edited: ooops! I forgot to add the link:www.dermaxime.com/facial-exercises.htm |
Interesting! I will try to see how it works out. Thanks! |
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:50 am |
I do have a suggestion.... to improve on your neck and necklines, you nod forward and backward.... while watching tv.... as we grow older, this area is becoming a problem!
catski wrote: |
I'd love to find a brief routine that's tried and tested, that I can do, say, while watching TV.
Does anyone have a recommendation, please?
(I want particularly to do some neck excercise to stop turkey neck coming , and something to refine cheekbone structure.) |
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:14 pm |
Another good one is too jut your chin forward, hold for 10 seconds and release. Ive been doing it about 10 times. You can feel your chin/jaw area working.
In fact when i havent done it for awhile, i can feel the muscles shake a bit. |
_________________ 39, in Australia, using retin a, Skin actives I Bright and Antiaging Cream, change sunscreen regularly currently. |
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