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Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:45 am      Reply with quote
I've read on several occasions about the benefits of getting your vitamin D from the sun (and you can't really get it effectively from vitamins), and how people who do not get enough Vitamin D (like people in the northern hemisphere or people who wear a lot of sunscreen) have higher rates of breast cancer, heart disease, and other forms of cancer.

I also just came back from a trip to the mediterranean, where I noticed a huge difference in the "relationship" that people have with the sun. There was a celebration of the sun, many people were tan, and getting sunshine on your body was seen as healthy. And so I am beginning to wonder if, in the United States and some other places, we are over-reacting about the sun, and not realizing how fundamental it is to our lives. After all, our earth could not survive without it. I wonder if all of we pale faces who slather on sunscreen every day (I include myself in this group) are actually, possibly, less healthy because we shun the sun?

I guess I am becoming more of a fan of moderation. I am willing to have a few more age spots, or a couple fine lines, in exchange for a healthier overall body. Any others?
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:59 am      Reply with quote
Well I have heard that you do need some sunlight, but not as far as standing outside all day. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but one may get all they need in daily sunlight from as little as like 5 min?

I know the asian culture treats the sun like a disease as we tend to like to stay out of it as much as I can. When I say asian I usually mean eastern. i.e. Japanese, Korean, Chinese..etc. Don't they usually have lower rates of breast cancer and so forth?

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Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:00 am      Reply with quote
15 minutes of sun on the tops of your arms is enough sun to synthesize the minimum amount of vitamin D we need every day. I don't think people who aren't vegetarians really need to even worry about this though. The face has such a small amount of skin on it compared to the rest of the body, it really will just save you a lot of annoyance later in life to wear a little sunblock on atleast your face, hands, neck (no where else if you want.) I also recommend take cod liver suppliments, which is an excellent source of vitamin D. I love how the sun feels, but since we know what causes aging and I would like to avoid it, the way it feels isn't really worth making it a big part of my life.
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:03 am      Reply with quote
I love the sun, and I don't try to avoid it.

My mom's side of the family is mostly American Indian. They are dark-skinned and have never tried to avoid the sun. They also collectively look young for their age, and have few wrinkles. My grandmother, for example, is 92 and looks about 62.

I'm pretty sure I've inherited the same genes. I've only gotten a minimum amount from my dad's side of the family, which is pale and Irish.

I have heard in the past that you need 15 good minutes of sunshine a day, but that might have been before the ozone layer became a huge concern.

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Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:19 am      Reply with quote
I like the sun, too, but I don't spend much time in it other than going to/from the apartment to the store and so on. Sunscreen is still a must for me on face/neck/hands due to the aging factor AND, more importantly, protection as I peel/exfoliate a lot.

Some exposure is good for us, though. It helps with mood, Vitamin D, your body's rhythms, etc. I have to also say that I LOVE being at the beach w/a cool breeze on a hot day. An umbrella is a must for me, though.

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Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:56 am      Reply with quote
I love the sun, too. I always wear sunscreen, though - just in case! I find that I am far more careful with my face than my body.

By the way, anyone know of any great facial self tanners that don't clog pores?
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:04 am      Reply with quote
RedDevil, my dad's side of the family is Choctaw, American Indian. I definitely got those genes, having relatively dark skin and I never burn in the sun. However, while trying to get as dark as I could during bodybuilding shows I would lay out in the Arizona sun for hours at a time (with only tanning oil) and then at night I would hit the tanning beds for 30 mins. at a time. In June 2000 I found that a mole on my ankle was T-3 melanoma, so please don't think because you have a certain family type you can't get skin cancer....you can.

Now that being said, I too feel that sunshine is important to human health. My doctors said I should avoid the sun at all cost, but I'm an active person living in Arizona. That's downright impossible. Riding my Harley to work round trip exposes me to a full hour of sun. I even still lay out, albeit just for about 30 minutes with SPF sunscreen applied. I still get somewhat tan, and I like the look. I also know I'm getting my vitamin D supply much like you have all been talking about. But, I just don't overdo it anymore. And, with years of follow up with the cancer specialist and the skin specialists, I haven't had any more skin problems at all.

I have to say that in my opinion, those folks who avoid the sun at all cost are indeed keeping themselves from some of the healthy benefits that can come from some sun exposure.

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Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:23 pm      Reply with quote
Sun is not bad for your health at all!! You need at least 20 mins on bare skin daily.
Sun does a lot more than produce vitamin D.
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:57 pm      Reply with quote
People who do not get enough Vitamin D (like people in the northern hemisphere or people who wear a lot of sunscreen) have higher rates of breast cancer, heart disease, and other forms of cancer?

Not according to nationmaster.com

Overall Cancer:

Italy was #2 with 418 cases per 100,000.
US was #9 with 321.9 per 100,000.
Sweden was #14 with 268.2 per 100,000.
Finland was #15 with 255.4 per 100,000.

Breast Cancer:

Italy #12 with 22 cases per 100,000.
France #13 with 21.7 per 100,000.
Australia #14 with 21.6 per 100,000.
US #17 with 21.2 per 100,000.
Sweden #22 18.5 cases per 100,000.
Finland #23 18.1 cases per 100,000.

I couldn't find the statistic for heart disease.

I don't think that sunlight has much to do with why cold, dark (in wintertime) Sweden and Finland scored better than sunny Italy and France. I think it has to do with genetics, diet and if one is a smoker or not. However the body needs a certain ammount of sunlight each day, between 10-20 minutes is what I've been told. In the darkest of winter here (where I live we get maybe 5 hours of "light" mid-December) I use a full spectrum lamp by my computer. It helps a lot and doesn't damage my skin. Cool
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:43 pm      Reply with quote
the sun will age your face faster than anything, you can also get melasma freckles etc its very very bad for your face,I avoid it at all costs .
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