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Help with Under Eye Lines, cross hatch lines.

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aquablue
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:20 pm      Reply with quote
I have fine lines unde my eyes, some cross-hatch and others straight. I notice them more when I smile or close one eye.

Currently using Is clinical pro heal on face and under eyes 1xday and IS clincial eye cream. Don't see much difference, what am I doing wrong, what eye product do you reccommend to reduce these problems? Do I need to use an acid or retinol under the eye? Does Retin-A help, or does it just dry the eye out?

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Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:58 pm      Reply with quote
They sound identical to my eyes Rolling Eyes you need a lot of things: At the very least Retinol/Retin A - mild exfoliation (yes, really), and loads of plumping and firming I use HA/emu for that but am always looking for something better.

Mine are a lot improved. If I stop all this they look dreadful.
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:10 pm      Reply with quote
Hi aquablue - I agree with Molly. I use a mild retinoid -- currently Avene Retrinal .05% around my eyes and .1% on the rest of my face. Over time, something like this (or stronger if you can tolerate it) will tighten and smooth the area. I also recently started using DMAE 4% amine from www.skincarecentral.biz (thank you Molly for introducing me to this site! -- I'm still loving the Bioderma SS, BTW) which has tightened up things even more.

These are both drying though so you need to add some kind of moisture.

I need to get with it as far as an eye cream goes. I have tons of samples and just tried one that I REALLY liked by Dr. Jessica Wu (I think it came with a Sephora order). Fine lines were GONE when I had this on, without making the area look oily. But if memory serves me correctly, the cost for a full-size is killing.
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Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:39 am      Reply with quote
I have the same problem, but the skin around my eyes just does not seem to like any retinal product. Any other suggestions?
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:56 pm      Reply with quote
Msaries - did you ever try the Avene range of 'retinaldehyde' products? They are less irritating than both retinol and Retin A and almost as effective as Retin A. Otherwise Vit C does a good deal for the eye area.
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:24 pm      Reply with quote
I use Tazorac (a retinoid as others have recomended) and Remergent DNA repair. They seem to work well together. I also use the PSF eye creams the Phyto one in the summer and the richer one in the winter. I'm 51 and now have very few lines.
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:38 pm      Reply with quote
sharky wrote:
I use Tazorac (a retinoid as others have recomended) and Remergent DNA repair. They seem to work well together. I also use the PSF eye creams the Phyto one in the summer and the richer one in the winter. I'm 51 and now have very few lines.


Cool wow! i wish i would be identical to you in my 50s.
is PSF eye cream so magic?

and could you kindly tell me where i could purchase Tazorac on net?
i am not in north america.
thanks a lot Laughing
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:23 pm      Reply with quote
I had a couple of fine lines this summer after a vacation at the beach.

I used Avene Ystheal+ cream all over and the lines are gone.

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Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:01 pm      Reply with quote
felinehhy wrote:
and could you kindly tell me where i could purchase Tazorac on net?
i am not in north america.
thanks a lot Laughing


taz is a prescription retinoid. Here we need a script from the doctor in order to order it from pharmacy. Don't know if you can get it without a prescription in your part of the world.

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Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:32 am      Reply with quote
Try sisley. Heard a lot of good things about it
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