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Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:34 am  |
Ok...this post might come across as a bit OCD...but actually I have been wondering about this issue a bit anyway as it says on MUA swaps to clean/disinfect everything but to date I've only swapped stuff in bottles as I have no clue how to disinfect make up.
Right..so well I was at the make up counter yesterday getting brushes etc. I had my make up case with me. Whilst I was there, the MUA was going through the brush options with me and how I could use the different ones - do to this she used them with the make up I had. Whilst I know the make up brushes there are cleaned regularly, they weren't cleaned immediately before and I could see quite a bit of other product on them. Also when she did the inside corner of my eye, it really itched (though that could just be linked to my contact lense and/or me not being used to having anything in the insides of my eyes).
Is there a way I can clean the blush and shadows she used from my case?
My thought was to use one of my small firm liner brushes to gently brush over each powder to get rid of a layer, then rub the brush over with a tissue soaked in either brush cleaner or dettol. Or maybe another type of alcohol? Would this actually clean/disinfect the make up or if there were any germs would they get right inside?
Also the brush would get wet in between - would that affect the quality of my make up?
Or am I am on the wrong track? |
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:50 am |
For brushes I use MAC Brush Cleanser - it has quite a bit of alcohol in it and cleanses my brushes pretty thoroughly while disinfecting it. But for my super dense kabukis I go with a gentle shampoo - these are my own so I'm not that worried about bacteria since I keep my things stored hygienically in a brush bag at all times. I know another member on EDS mentioned she sprays her brush with a diluted alcohol solution after every use. If you don't want to mix your own you can go with Jane Iredale's Botanical Brush Cleanser.
For other makeup if you want to sanitize lip products you can dip the tip in an alcohol solution and wipe off with those disposable wet kleenex wipes. I personally use my MAC wipes since I don't use them on my skin anymore so this is how I use them up. I can sweep my MAC wipes over lip gloss and they're good to go.
I also use alcohol wipes for sanitizing the opening of bottles, jars, etc.
I don't personally swap for used lip products in general (and I rarely use lipstick) but this is how I've done it on the one or two times I've gotten lipgloss in a swap. Also this is how I've seen make up artists sanitize lipsticks.
For eyeshadows I just smudge off the used part with a tissue. I know some people use alcohol and then scrape off the top layer once it dries. I personally do not feel comfortable doing this as 1. I'll probably use too much alcohol and have the whole e/s harden up and 2. I will probably end up scraping more than needed or breaking the whole e/s.
Mascaras - well you shouldn't be using used mascaras anyway!
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:08 am |
Yes that's very useful thanks!
I am freakish about my make up and wipe my brushes with a brush cleaner every time I use them and also clean my two Planners and all the pages out once a week with Dettol wipes. Never touched the powders though as I am the only person who uses my make up. Quite annoyed at myself for letting this happen.
If anyone else has any expeirence of disinfecting eye shadows, please respond! |
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:32 am |
Great ideas! This reminds me to clean out my brushes more! I hate sharing makeup because I can envision the amount of bacteria buildup and the risk of infection, but when you live with a house of girls, what other option do you have?  |
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:43 am |
When people say alcohol on this forum, do you guys mean something in particular?Can you just buy it in the drugstore or so you mean something like a bit of gin?!
I ask this as I went into the chemists and asked for some alcohol and they say you can't buy it, only surgical spirit and they say doctors use it for disinfecting. However on the bottle it says to use it to prevent bed sores (..?!) and hardening of the skin - content include castor oil and ethanol. Just wandering about the reaction between castor oil and my expensive powders... |
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:21 pm |
| I always use my cleanser to clean my make-up brushes. |
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:08 am |
Hmm...well I found an old bottle of surgical spirit from Boots in a cupboard and that seems to just contain alcohol, no castor oil or anything. Too old to use though.
Well I spent ages disinfecting all my stuff last night combination of brush cleaner, dettol wipes, brushes and letting stuff dry etc. Hubby thinks I'm mad! My eyes have been feeling a bit itchy though so I'm glad I've done this just in case. Just hope the eye shadows will be the same... |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:47 am |
| This will come across as really OCD but I would just throw out the "contaminated" products and buy new ones! |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:53 am |
| Lol Theresa...Yes I have been very tempted..thing is I only bought half the stuff on that 'page' a couple of days before...and the stuff wasn't exactly cheap... |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:09 am |
Hey daisylondon!
I swap on MUA too, Im always surprised about what people are willing to swap and a few things I have recieved have been in less than appealing condition. I dont swap eyeliner, mascara or wand style lipgloss. If I get something powder like eyeshadow or blush I always sanitize it with rubbing a alcohol. Just soak a cottonball with a bit of it and lightly rub it over the powder(be sure to get the packaging too, who knows when people wash their hands!) once the alcohol dries take a clean cottonball and rub a light layer of the product off. Thats what I do. As for going to a dept. store, I think you are spot on with bringing your own brushes, I would NEVER let a SA use her brushes on me! BUT, I used to work at a makeup counter and I swear I never saw anyone clean their brushes and all the cleaning the products got was a weekly rub down with a kleenex. EW! I always buy from a store I can return at, that way if the product doesnt work for me I can just take it back...I would stay very far away from the testers, just use the back of your hand for a color swatch. |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:31 am |
After reading all this, I just freaked out and spent nearly 2 hours cleaning my skincare products this afternoon! It's scary thinking about when I cleaned it last before today  I still have to clean my makeup but I'm just wondering if anyone can suggest how I should go about cleaning my lipgloss? I'm not certain how I should clean the wand. |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:18 am |
| lynn2525 wrote: |
| After reading all this, I just freaked out and spent nearly 2 hours cleaning my skincare products this afternoon! It's scary thinking about when I cleaned it last before today I still have to clean my makeup but I'm just wondering if anyone can suggest how I should go about cleaning my lipgloss? I'm not certain how I should clean the wand. |
If you are the only one who has used it I dont think cleaning lipgloss is necessary. |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:29 am |
| Speaking of lip gloss that comes in a tube with a wand. How long do you keep this before you discard? I used to keep it for a year or longer but then I read that it should only be kept for 2 or 3 months like mascara. I don't buy this type of lip gloss anymore because it seems like such a waste to have to discard after a few months. I guess the same applies to mascara but I am not going to stop using that! |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:59 am |
| TheresaL wrote: |
| Speaking of lip gloss that comes in a tube with a wand. How long do you keep this before you discard? I used to keep it for a year or longer but then I read that it should only be kept for 2 or 3 months like mascara. I don't buy this type of lip gloss anymore because it seems like such a waste to have to discard after a few months. I guess the same applies to mascara but I am not going to stop using that! |
Not sure if you are asking me or not...
I keep my mascara for about 3 months, I use a drug store brand so I dont feel the pain in my wallet. As for lipgloss, eh, Im sure if I looked I have 1yr+ old lipglosses but as you said if it comes in a wand I dont keep it as long...maybe 6 months, by then its used up or too hard to get out so I toss it. |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:03 am |
I would have thought if you used it out of the tube, it should be treated like mascara and ditched every three months. If I had a wand lip gloss (I don't), I think I'd only use it with a separate brush the way I use my Prescriptives concealer which is in similar packaging...
My friend bought me this fantastic lip gloss recently in Japan. It's from Shisheido, it's a long black plastic tube and you twist it to release just a bit of gloss and rub into your lips! It's really hygienic. It's fab, the ladies at the Trish McEvoy counter were impressed when they were rooting through my planner the other day. I went to the Sheisheido counter here but they don't have it. They have just literally got something very similar (in a pink packaging which I don't like so much and also only had 5 shades none of which were the nice one my friend got me).
Vonstella - Thanks for much for explaining how to do the eyeshadows properly! |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:15 pm |
Don't like the special brush cleaning products I don't think they clean the fibres or hair etc. properly and they leave a film on them and they definately don't remove the build up of product.
I do the old fashioned way, in the winter approx every quarter and in the summer about once a month.
I get a bowl and put in washing up liquid and warm to hot water, stand the brushes in the bowl with handles going up sides, leave to soak for 30 mins. Rinse each brush under warm running water. Then take each brush seperatly and put a spot of washing up liquid in my palm and rub the brush on it, working right into it, into the middle of the fibres to remove old build up, then under a running tap rinse and rinse and rinse and rinse.....shake brushes really hard outside, like you are trying to get water out of a paint brush, then stand them all upside down in a jar or tall glass and leave them somewhere to dry..
My Mum taught me to do this when I was a teenager and some of my brushed have lasted years and years and years... |
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:41 pm |
| I've doing more or less the same thing as naomim, but instead of washing up liquid I use baby body wash. |
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:15 pm |
i agree with naomim on brush cleaning.
i don't see how spraying brushes and wiping them is really cleaning them. that's why it grosses me out at makeup counters when the makeup SA "cleans" her brushes and considers it clean. i have gotten eye infections from make overs and it is the scariest thing. i got an eye infection and was so mad at myself the last time i let a SA give me a makeover because it is such an easily preventable problem. |
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:04 pm |
I wash my brushes every few weeks with a baby shampoo, but I still like cleaning them with a brush cleaner every time I use them. I just like doing this but I think also this means they don't get much of a chance to get product build up.
At Trish McEvoy they sell the brush cleaner I use and a brush wash so I'm guessing that brush cleaners aren't supposed to be a replacement for washing your brushes.
I really was very thorough with cleaning my shadows, used Swissclean wipes (they even kill hepatitis B and HIV apparently!), scraped off layers from the shadows etc, even did other shadows not touched by the SA but in the same case - but I still lay awake that night! |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:47 am |
| Daisy, I was also trying to find something like rubbing alcohol here in the UK so I could use it to clean my Baby Quasar. The only thing they had in Boots was surgical spirit, which had castor oil in too so I didn't get that. They did suggest that maybe a small independent chemist might be able to get alcohol for me - just need to find one now! There are loads of little chemist shops in London, so maybe you'll be able to find it quite easily if you still want some. |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:41 am |
| i use a normal cleansing milk to clean my brush |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:45 pm |
daisy--i think your makeup should be ok. even if you didn't clean them, i don't think the really harmful viruses like HIV or herpes live very long after being exposed to air. i remember reading something that that was the reason why people don't usually catch anything from a toilet.
of course, i am totally paranoid about that kind of thing. i think you cleaned them well. what are in the swisswipes? |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:42 pm |
| skincareaddicted wrote: |
daisy--i think your makeup should be ok. even if you didn't clean them, i don't think the really harmful viruses like HIV or herpes live very long after being exposed to air. i remember reading something that that was the reason why people don't usually catch anything from a toilet.
of course, i am totally paranoid about that kind of thing. i think you cleaned them well. what are in the swisswipes? |
I wasn't actually worried about herpes or HIV ! More about unnamed little germies crawling around my make up... Thanks for the reassurance!
It's just that as I couldn't get hold of any alcohol, I used the closest things I had to alcohol wipes which happened to be the Swissclean wipes and these are some of the things Swissclean claims to combat. I am not sure what they contain as that was my last wipe so can't check now. I used to travel to Switzerland for work and used to get this 'anti-germ' travel kit in the chemist at the airport - very nice packaging small white box with Swiss medical style cross - containing a spray (you can use it in hotel rooms on handles, pillows etc), a wash (you can use as a shower wash or to wash clothes) and the wipes. Oh I nearly forgot, and water purification tablets!
I ran out of the wipes first as they are handy to carry around during the day when travelling, especially in tropical countries. My friend was then travelling to Switzerland for her work so kindly got me a box of wipes for me to refill my travel kit but sadly I now have no more 
I got in touch with Swissclean though to find out whether any UK stockists and they said only one, it's the posh one on Wigmore Street - next time I am up that way I shall be stocking up! Hopefully they will have them! |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:47 pm |
| fifi wrote: |
| Daisy, I was also trying to find something like rubbing alcohol here in the UK so I could use it to clean my Baby Quasar. The only thing they had in Boots was surgical spirit, which had castor oil in too so I didn't get that. They did suggest that maybe a small independent chemist might be able to get alcohol for me - just need to find one now! There are loads of little chemist shops in London, so maybe you'll be able to find it quite easily if you still want some. |
Oh...that old Boots surgical spirit I found definitely did not have castor oil in it - maybe they're mainly like that now...some sort of 'nanny state' thing..?!!
Problem with independent chemists is that they are also on the whole tied into central purchasing, e.g. Unichem. I shall try a few chemists around here, if I find any I'll get an extra bottle for you. Hubby suggested I ask ma in law as she gets alcohol for her home made damson. Would that do for 'rubbing' alcohol? |
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