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Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:07 pm  |
Thanks Adonis. Now I get it ! |
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:34 pm |
Adonis, I used to believe the certifications once, until I found out that many of them are purchased, rather than given out because the company truly achieves the certification. The excuse given for charging for the use of a certification symbol is that there are some checks done but the money is used to promote the certification symbol.
There are many so-called natural products which give the bulk of their ingredients on the website, but do a comparison on the actual product container and you usually find just a few more ingredients that were conveniently not listed. I don't have a problem with companies not listing all their ingredients, just the "all natural" ones when they leave a few out. |
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Skin: Over 60, ex combination now sensitive, Cellcosmet |
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:15 am |
| Wild Cat wrote: |
| Jurlique better not go under in the future I can't live without Face Wash Cream... |
Jurlique won't go under!  It's owned by a luxury merchandise division of the Packer family- the Aussie multi-billionaire.
But without being controversial, a couple of friends of mine work for Jurlique and both have said that Dr. Jurgen Klein is a very difficult person and an a$$h*le to work for. And the level of morale in the company is way below subzero. And yes, they do have a very high turn over in staff. Poor people! Needless to say one of my friend has left the company... |
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:18 am |
| tam wrote: |
| That is fascinating! I didn't realize that it was against the law not hold retailers to not discounting prices. I know there are other cosmetics companies that do the same thing... I just can't think of one right now. |
It is in Australia. It was a law passed in 1974 called the Trade Practices Act. Basically protects the end consumers by making sure that businesses don't practise price fixing, collusion, anticompetitive practices and etc. |
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:35 am |
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| what does "resale price maintenance" mean? isn't it legal for the manufacturer to have a retail price and not allow any discounts? |
Manufacturers (in Australia at the least) have what's called RRP (recommended retail price). That is they can recommend to the resellers of the market value of their products.
But once the retailers buy the goods then they own the goods. And how retailers market the goods shouldn't and can't be controlled by the manufacturers.
Resale price maintenance just means price fixing and Jurlique did this by pressure, witholding/delaying stocks already paid for and threatening to close down accounts. Jurlique doesn't sell on consignment basis to retailers, at least to the small retailers. So if you're a small retailer and you've paid $x amount of dollars in stocks but the stocks fail to arrive then you'd be losing money because you have nothing to sell and in addition to that you'd still be losing more money on overheads that the sale of stocks would have covered. Not to mention the interest foregone on the money that was used to pay for the stocks. And when the manufacturer still finds ways of delaying or withholding stocks then you'd either cave in to the pressure or close the account and sell something else.
I can only imagine the time and money spent on, not just the logistics, but the staff training and restocking of shelves will have quite an impact on the business. So you can see why it would be an unfair practice by Jurlique especially if they don't provide any means of support to their retailers to help them promote and sell the product. |
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:00 am |
LizZa, thanks for explaining this. i always thought "recommended retail price" meant the manufacturers insist on a certain retail price. i was always told sothys, sisley, SKII had fixed pricing.
now it makes sense. jurlique is acting like the mafia by withholding stocks! |
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normal to combination skin that is sensitive. cheeks have large, visible pores and flush very easily. most SAs tell me "dehydrated on the outside, oily on the inside"! |
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:03 pm |
| Thanks for posting. Their products are overpriced. |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:07 am |
No worries!  I hope that the prices won't go up any time soon because I am a fan of their body oils! |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:24 pm |
| Thanks for posting. Another reason I would not use their products. |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:51 pm |
Thank you for your post.
But I thought, this is not only Jurlique.
Now the price was depend on packaging, marketing and vainglory. |
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Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:41 am |
 Jurlique will now always be a symbol of unethical corporate thuggery to me. |
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Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:45 pm |
| nyonyakay wrote: |
| Jurlique will now always be a symbol of unethical corporate thuggery to me. |
True but I just don't want to admit it because I still love some of their products  |
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Simple but No Simplier...Approaching late 20s, Normal/Combination Skin, Rarely Breakout now but have some old acne marks, sunspots, & broken caps |
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Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:37 pm |
| Take the high ground. |
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Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:14 am |
| this is irritating. From such a "natural" company too. . ..garbage. |
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