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UK people - BBC2 8.00 tonight - Do wrinkle creams work?
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Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:48 am      Reply with quote
I'll bet it's really superficial. Might be entertaining though.
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Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:42 pm      Reply with quote
I would have watched it but it would probably be superficial like you said.

I checked to see if it's repeated but found that I had been watching BB2 but this was on Confused

Dr Alice Roberts: Don't Die Young

Health documentary series, presented by Alice Roberts, giving guidance on how to keep the body's organs working at peak performance. The body's biggest organ is under scrutiny - the skin. Alice puts her own outer layer to the test, and runs her face through a computer programme which ages her till she looks 80. She meets Ed, a 22-year-old farmer who is exposing his skin to the hazards of the elements and finds out just what happens when skin cancer needs surgery

Duration: 30mins

I've really been enjoying this series, it's been very informative. Another series that is very good is 'The Truth About Food' BBC2 Thurs 8 pm I highly recommend it. It's presented in a really fun way and you learn lots.

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Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:12 am      Reply with quote
I missed this Molly, how was it? Those other programmes look interesting too, I never seem to have the tv on at the right time to catch these.
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:28 am      Reply with quote
I watched it, nothing major surprising in there. The jist of it was that for the largest organ of the body we seem to look after it (ie skin) the least.
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:33 am      Reply with quote
The 'Truth about Food' is really interesting. Is everyone chowing down on tomatoes now? Smile

I switched to drinking only organic milk after watching a similar programme last year, which said that non organic milk cows are treated so poorly that most get mastitis and problems with their legs as they're never allowed to leave the concrete cow sheds. Put me off for life!
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:36 am      Reply with quote
I agree with this episode but then we are all highly informed on skin here Wink The other programmes have covered other organs of the body and have been more revealing.

It looks like I did watch the right programme after all!

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I watched it, nothing major surprising in there. The jist of it was that for the largest organ of the body we seem to look after it (ie skin) the least.

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Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:23 am      Reply with quote
sarahb wrote:
The 'Truth about Food' is really interesting. Is everyone chowing down on tomatoes now? Smile

I switched to drinking only organic milk after watching a similar programme last year, which said that non organic milk cows are treated so poorly that most get mastitis and problems with their legs as they're never allowed to leave the concrete cow sheds. Put me off for life!



:-& Totally agree with you about milk. I also feel the same way about eggs and chicken, got to be organic.

Apparently chocolate should really be organic too, though I cant recall quite why non - organic chocolate is considered so bad.

As for the programme about wrinkle creams on TV. If it said 'they dont work', would we all throw our lotions and potions in to the bin...pffft!
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:09 am      Reply with quote
Slightly off topic, but did anyone think it was bizarre that the Bernard Matthews turkey farm has replenished their stocks THAT quickly?! Would you want to eat a turkey from there right now? I know I don't, but then again, it looks like they were so crammed in, I dread to think how they were treated in the first place?!
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:26 am      Reply with quote
I never ate anything (knowingly) that came from Bernard Matthews anyway.The thought makes me ill.
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:50 am      Reply with quote
No, I've never been a Bernard Matthews fan either. Remember the video of those idiot workers who were using live turkeys as baseballs? Mad

Thankfully, there's a super little farmshop not too far away from us where they sell their own meat from animals raised on their own and on nearby farms. You can actually see the livestock, and they look well-cared for, with plenty of room and decent food to eat. The abattoir is only a short distance away too, so the animals don't have to suffer a lengthy journey in a lorry. We buy all our meat from there.
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:09 am      Reply with quote
Agree with y'all about the Bernard Matthews turkey thing.

Vomitude!

To continue with the slightly off topic vere.. whenever I hear the name Bernard Matthews I always think of Bernard Manning.

Double whammy of Sad !
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:32 am      Reply with quote
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I missed this Molly, how was it? Those other programmes look interesting too, I never seem to have the tv on at the right time to catch these.

About skincare I thought it went from totally superficial to totally ignorant in parts. For example they seemed to equate burning to getting skin cancer - no advice for outdoor workers to wear SPF regularly. A farmer was told to wear moisturiser to stop his skin getting dry, but not what constitutes a good moisturiser and worst of all they asked a doctor about anti-aging treatments and he said Vit C doesn't work and none of the high street ones are anti-aging except for ones containing retinol; well you'd have a tough time with trying to regenerate your skin using any of those products the retinol seems to be in minute amounts. What else? I'm sure they we're more bricks to throw.

Remembered anothing glaring brick - topical anti-oxidants don't work at all. Where do they get this stuff?!? That one's the most annoying because I just know I'll get that thrown back at me by people who know about my fixation. 'saw it on the telly' so it must be right.

Back again - AHA's are in no way anti-aging they just strip your skin of dead cells and make it vulnerable. Nothing about stimulating collagen production.
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:53 am      Reply with quote
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fifi wrote:
I missed this Molly, how was it? Those other programmes look interesting too, I never seem to have the tv on at the right time to catch these.

About skincare I thought it went from totally superficial to totally ignorant in parts. For example they seemed to equate burning to getting skin cancer - no advice for outdoor workers to wear SPF regularly. A farmer was told to wear moisturiser to stop his skin getting dry, but not what constitutes a good moisturiser and worst of all they asked a doctor about anti-aging treatments and he said Vit C doesn't work and none of the high street ones are anti-aging except for ones containing retinol; well you'd have a tough time with trying to regenerate your skin using any of those products the retinol seems to be in minute amounts. What else? I'm sure they we're more bricks to throw.

Remembered anothing glaring brick - topical anti-oxidants don't work at all. Where do they get this stuff?!? That one's the most annoying because I just know I'll get that thrown back at me by people who know about my fixation. 'saw it on the telly' so it must be right.

Back again - AHA's are in no way anti-aging they just strip your skin of dead cells and make it vulnerable. Nothing about stimulating collagen production.


Just astonishing. The misinformation we're fed with.. Embarassed
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:00 pm      Reply with quote
I'm kind of glad I didn't waste any time on this now, what a load of tosh!
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:01 pm      Reply with quote
wow, now, what should we use then?
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:35 am      Reply with quote
I think we're just supposed to roll over Fishzebby.

I do find the public view of of anti-aging in the UK totally at odds with the private lust for youth. It's as if it's shameful to admit it. Everyone I know says nothing works yet the anti-aging market is booming here.

It's good in a way because we can become character actresses in our old age.
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:44 am      Reply with quote
The hypocrisy of it is part of our identity, though in a way.

The fact that women I know wont give away their 'beauty secrets' ( the fact that they even should be 'secrets' at all..) reminds me of being at school, and how no-one admitted to a wider circle that they revised for exams, or, later, tried hard or for a long time to get pregnant.

Everything is supposed to be 'effortless' in an ideal world, I guess.
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:13 am      Reply with quote
majorb wrote:
No, I've never been a Bernard Matthews fan either. Remember the video of those idiot workers who were using live turkeys as baseballs? Mad



Yes I do, it was sickening. Was it there???
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Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:18 am      Reply with quote
sarahb wrote:
majorb wrote:
No, I've never been a Bernard Matthews fan either. Remember the video of those idiot workers who were using live turkeys as baseballs? Mad



Yes I do, it was sickening. Was it there???


Yep. They made a big song and dance about an apology, but it makes you wonder about all the things we never actually find out.
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