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Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:31 am |
Hi, just curious if anybody has used this? (too many gadgets, too little time, lol!!)  |
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:22 pm |
dang it! I freaking love facial gadgets!!!!!!!!! /sigh Off to google.... |
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:16 pm |
Same here, lol! Rejuvawand is another one that has newly piqued my interest.  |
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:04 pm |
I'd think you'd be better off looking up galvanic on ebay and get a salon quality machine.
I know that I prefer a salon-quality high frequency machine to dermwand or oxylight. Again, look on ebay. |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:46 am |
ailurophile wrote: |
... I know that I prefer a salon-quality high frequency machine to dermwand or oxylight. Again, look on ebay. |
But isn't price a huge consideration? I just spent around $100 for the Dermawand - aren't similar machines considerably more on eBay? |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:46 am |
BTW, what exactly does galvanic current DO for the face, body, etc.? |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:21 am |
Galvanic refers to the smooth uninterrupted alternating current- I think electrical appliances we use at home pretty much run on galvanic currents.
Galvanic facial is based on the basic laws of electricity, "like repels, opposites attract".
In galvanic facial, an electrical circuit is created in your body when you hold one probe (anode, - charge) and a therapist applies another probe (cathode, + charge) on to your facial skin.
Before the galvanic machine is switched on to start the electrical current, you skin will be doused with a conductive gel or an ionized topical solution.
So if the therapist is holding a positively charged cathode then the topical solution on your skin will be a + ionized solution. Because both the electric current and ionized solution are +, they'll repel one another and flow in opposite direction.
In theory, the solution will be "repelled into the skin" through the pores and into your sebaceous glands and into your capillaries. And the +ionized solution will be running to the - charged electric current that's running through your body (remember that you'll be holding the anode).
The probes can be switched and the appropriately ionized solution has to be applied to the skin for the galvanic current to work.
So the concept behind galvanic is that it forces nutrients/active ingredients deep into the skin. Also galvanic creates heat in the body because of the electricity so heat encourages blood flow and because the heat is normally localised in the area of treatment, it is bringing blood to that area of the skin. Skin surface is really the last place to get blood flow so when the blood comes to the surface, it's bringing oxygen and cell nutrients to the surface capillaries. Throw in cell metabolism and you have cell renewal.
By the way the galvanic facial I mention here is correctly termed iontophoresis. I have seen the one that is sold for home use but I don't recall seeing - and + probes so I don't know how it works. |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:30 am |
ailurophile wrote: |
I know that I prefer a salon-quality high frequency machine to dermwand or oxylight. Again, look on ebay. |
ailurophile, I love my dermawand.. So I'd love to look into a salon quality version.
But I havent a clue what to look for.. I mean, what would it be called?  |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:52 am |
LizaA wrote: |
Galvanic refers to the smooth uninterrupted alternating current- I think electrical appliances we use at home pretty much run on galvanic currents.
Galvanic facial is based on the basic laws of electricity, "like repels, opposites attract". ... |
Thank you, Liza - that certainly answers my question quite well! |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:28 pm |
LizaA,
Do you know if Galvanic Current is different than Micro-current? |
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:14 pm |
Microcurrent still uses the galvanic current but it's an interrupted galvanic current rather than smooth alternating current. The contractions you feel in the muscles from microcurrent is from the interrupted waves of the electric current. |
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Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:11 am |
Liza, you've been beating me! Great explanations!
Look up "high frequency" or "galvanic" on ebay under the Health and Beauty section. Machines can be bought for under a hundred. |
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Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:42 pm |
I have used Nuskin Galvanic Spa for a month or actually 8 treaments,I borrowed it from a friend.It is easy to use, my skin felt smooth,relaxed and hydrated but I am not really sure if it is money well spent.It says you could see the differense if you use it only on the half side of your face,like a small facelift,I did no see that...And wrinkles will disappear,I did not see that either..Maybe I did not used it right because you need to "iron" your skin quite hard.
Funny you should ask about this machine now because in one of our weekly magasin this week 9 women tried it out and all of them were very happy,so it must be only me.. |
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Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:43 pm |
I personally think it's misleading to think that a galvanic or high frequency type machine can remove wrinkles or "lift" the skin. It's very useful for what it does, but it's not for lifting or wrinkle removing, really. If it does, it's a side benefit of their primary purpose (disencrustation, iontophoresis, disinfecting skin, etc). |
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:59 am |
ailurophile wrote: |
Look up "high frequency" or "galvanic" on ebay under the Health and Beauty section. Machines can be bought for under a hundred. |
Thanks for being so specific for me... I did look them up and see what you are referring to. Very interesting.
I've actually never had a facial or been to a derm so I know nothing of professional machines.
So a derma wand type thing is a weaker version of these machines?
What about the NuFAce? Would there be a more powerful version of that kind of item that one could buy for personal use?
PLease forgive my TotalNovice - ness ! |
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:39 pm |
It depends on the machine, but you don't need or want a lot of power for either high frequency or galvanic machines- in fact, a high powered galvanic machine could give you electric burns.
I think the difference between home and salon really have to do with options and portability/smaller size and ease of use. Salon quality machines tend to have more options, but is often bulkier. |
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:31 am |
i actually have one of these sitting un used in my room! never knew what it was really for (got it from my mum) and didnt want to buy those expensive ampules to try it out since i am sensitive/reactive to lots of products
what other products can i try this out with? ? |
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:44 pm |
You spent $100 dermaWand yet you can get a good Galvanic machine for around $68 like I did on ebay. BUT you really need to stay away from electrical and/or facial machines when you are not even licensed. Let us professionals who know what they are doing handle that.
DeraWand was actually nice but it's not considered "professional" but you may get some results with it, I saw a few when using it. That stupid thing cost me more than my professional equipment! |
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Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:34 pm |
This is my first reply on this board--I am surprised I must say--not putting you down--but I am shocked at the things people are experimenting with on their face with little or no knowledge of what they are doing.
I am 'older'--but have a nursing background years ago and have been a licensed esthetician for 2 years.
Galvanic current and treatment were in my basic textbook although I must say I never used it in school. I am familiar with the Galvanic Spa machine--it is not harmful, but in my opinion does not do much either. To be very honest, while the products are nor bad, it is really a MLM business and they try to get MANY people to sign on as reps because what they really want are for you to sign people on for 'auto ship' of their products--and don't be persuaded that is is anything else. VERY few people make a lot of money--they have you do it for them.
If you are really interested in machines, I am learning that Ultra Sound is a far better way to go in terms of investment of $$.
If you want more info let me know. |
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Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:08 pm |
Sandy Feldblum wrote: |
This is my first reply on this board--I am surprised I must say--not putting you down--but I am shocked at the things people are experimenting with on their face with little or no knowledge of what they are doing. |
Sandy, welcome to EDS.
You are correct that many people do things to their skin without the appropriate knowledge...I see it very often on the dermarolling thread. But please know that we do not all fall into that camp...many of us do extensive research before embarking on any new skin ventures.
And while I have nothing against professionals, I have personally had WAY better success (at a far lower cost) by educating myself on various options, as opposed to blindly following my very well educated dermatologist's recommendations. And the same findings have also applied for me in other aspects of managing my health.
But I definitely agree that many people head blindly into things like dermarolling, don't follow the correct protocol, and then complain when they overdo it, or get no/poor results.
Your point is taken....hopefully people will take some time to better understand what they are taking on, or choose to leave the decisions to the pros if they don't have the time or the intellect to invest in the research.
Regarding Ultrasound - many of us already own and utilize ultrsound units for both the face and body. On page 2 of the thread below, you will see a number of articles we have shared on ultrasound.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29006 |
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Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:30 pm |
I so appreciate your getting back to me---and I agree about advice from a facialist versus a Dernatologist in many cases. I handle Rosacea far better than the derms I have seen. I do have the hand held skin spatula and I like it a lot!!!
I only use distilled water to do the exfoliation and you can see the tiny spray of fine water coming off of the face abd the cleaning is amazing--a process I am told that is called 'cavitation.' It is also great on penetrtation--I especially like it with a hylauronic acid ampule and elastin and placenta.
I ordered the demawand--I returned it because I thought that it was a bit hard to measure just how much output you got--I would only use it on non-sensative skin. I rarely use the Nu Skin Galvanic as I previously stated. I surely would not consider it to be a 'professional tool." As I told you--they really want to sell their products on an auto ship basis and push hard to sell-- |
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