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Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:36 am      Reply with quote
Maybe tangal can help me with this one, or anyone else who's tried this?

I'm trying to find out more about Famous Dave's Self-Tan - ie is it any good? According to the blurb, you lot in the US love it. Do you, or are they just talking tosh?

http://www.famousdave.co.uk/pages/shop.htm

Thanks for any advice or comments you can give on this stuff.
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:52 am      Reply with quote
Based on the posters comments on Sunless.com where I moderate, mostly USA based users. (though we do have international posters as well) Its not all that. Most don't repurchase it. Many find it to light, and to expensive for what is simply and average product.

And much of the advertising info on "why" it works is inaccurate and bogus. Smile Their "Truth About Self Tanners Turning Orange" is 100% wrong. And a lie. I know this for a fact, as I work in formulation with many labs and companys in the self tanning industry and know how DHA works. Smile

I have an entire writeup online om "Junk Advertisers Say" thats untrue, and this product get a mention. LOL

Orange is from to dark a product for your skintype, to many coats, poor exfoliation, and other facters etc. NOT the ingrediants he mentioned as the cause.

And pH IS NOT an issue in orangeness. ALL self tanners are pH of 4.5 - 5.5 range. Thats the range DHA works best at.

Anything higher and you get "no color" not orange.

Also this product Contains Water and Aloe Vera as the two first imgrediants in the product, which naturally have a pH or 7.0. (aloe is 99% water) - so if pH was the issue - this product would be to high a pH also.

But of course this, like every single other self tanner on the market is pH adjusted down to pH 5.0 range.

And many other are aloe and water based as well. Thats a standard self tanning base for 100s of products.

Its basically a lighter devlopment depth, very moisterizing product, nothing fancy, many other products work as well at half the cost. A gradual tanner will work as well if you use the correct one, and correct prep and post tan care.

Or you can dilute most any lotion based tanner or airbrush solution with a lightweight moisterizer lotion and get a very simular effect.

Much of the issue with self tanner is CORRECT pre and post tan care, and CORRECT application and product selection for your skintype. 75% of users do that wrong - and thus the issues. Most find when they get that info worked out - all of a sudden many many many self tanners actually work excellently for them.

Its a lot like makeup - when you first try it takes a while to find colors, application technique, productlines and types that do best for you. Once you find that out though - you can usually find products in almost all lines that can be made to work with your skin, though of course some will suit you better then others.
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:55 am      Reply with quote
majorb, Tangal recommended a solution that you can mix yourself from AYU Original. They have samples. Anyway, I ordered some and mixed it up. I love it. Best self-tanner I've ever used.

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Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:15 am      Reply with quote
Salli - I am glad thats working well for you. Its a nice productline.

They are at www.ayuinternational.com - not sure if its cost effective to order their samples for UK shippment. They may have UK distributers though.

There are other products available in other countries that are nice also, depending on what you are looking for.
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:18 am      Reply with quote
Tangal, I just love this stuff. It's almost idiot proof. I have no streaks and I really like that I can mix it to the darkness I want. It also doesn't have the yellowy orangey tone to it. It looks very natural on me.

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Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:42 am      Reply with quote
yes its a nice "beginner friendly" product for those who don't mind mixing. Smile
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:53 am      Reply with quote
Yes it is good for beginners and for those of us that don't like to fuss with things much. I'm into simplicity.

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Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:59 am      Reply with quote
Dagnabit, it's a dud, then.

Thanks so much for your advice, Tangal. I knew you'd be able to help me.

At last, this board has helped stop me buying something instead of the other way around! Laughing

Will definitely checkout that mix-it-yourself stuff. Sounds much better.
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:03 am      Reply with quote
majorb, the mix it yourself stuff is the only self-tanner I've been happy with. Of course, I'm a little on the lazy side too, but I'm still picky.

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Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:10 am      Reply with quote
salli wrote:
majorb, the mix it yourself stuff is the only self-tanner I've been happy with. Of course, I'm a little on the lazy side too, but I'm still picky.


Thanks, salli. Is it the AYU Plus or the Regular that you buy, please? And can you apply manually without spraying? Also, how long do you have to wait around for it to dry - I apply my fake tan before going to bed and just wear loose pyjamas?

Just visited the site and it really does sound worth trying.
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:01 am      Reply with quote
It's the AYU Plus 12%. I started out mixing it a little light (I've gone darker since) in a 1 oz bottle with lotion to get a "feel" for how it was going to do. I just put it on after I take my bath at nite and let it dry for a few minutes before I put my nighty on.

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