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Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:01 pm      Reply with quote
Hi, came across this on another board, called a SkinDream ultrasound machine for at home use.
Web site is www.mediconsult.tv (out of Germany).
Any thoughts? (good or bad, lol).

Soon my house will be overflowing with gadgets, lol!!
Unit is fairly pricey though, I believe $690.00 Canadian.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:39 am      Reply with quote
WAY overpriced. you can find a decent ultrasound massager on ebay or online for under 100- the only think the german machine has is the ability to be cordless.

I like the ultrasound machines, although I prefer the spatula type (those run @ 500-1000).
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:16 am      Reply with quote
I've looked this up, and as far as I can tell, it isnt going to give you anything that a dermawand +lightstim gives.

Am I missing something?

I love my gadgets, and if this is a good one... Cool
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:14 pm      Reply with quote
I am interested too. You can get a good one between $100 ~ $300 (USD). I have looked for reviews as well but didn't find much.

I will post here if I find useful information.
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I bought one about 3 years ago (around $250 I think) but only used it few times. It's too hard to glide. A skin boutique SA told me that in Japan every woman has one.

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Hi lipglossdoll - I couldn't open your link, so I'm not certain what type of ultrasound system you are interested in. What do you hope to achieve by having one? I would love to source an Ultrasound system that I can use for joint pain, facial firming and cellulite reduction (yeah, I know, I'm asking for the moon!). From what I understand, cellulite reduction can be achieved only by a machine that sends 2-3 MHz of ultrasound frequency. The at-home units I found below only send 1 MHz of frequency - which is suitable for facial firming and/or pain reduction. Has anyone else come across a system that offers ultrasound frequencies above 1 MHz??

http://www.makemeheal.com/mmh/product.do?id=26986&procid=50&catid=1247
https://secure.mendmeshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=8f3d098125ea29978573456f1898d1e1

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Hi lipglossdoll - I couldn't open your link, so I'm not certain what type of ultrasound system you are interested in. What do you hope to achieve by having one? I would love to source an Ultrasound system that I can use for joint pain, facial firming and cellulite reduction (yeah, I know, I'm asking for the moon!). From what I understand, cellulite reduction can be achieved only by a machine that sends 2-3 MHz of ultrasound frequency. The at-home units I found below only send 1 MHz of frequency - which is suitable for facial firming and/or pain reduction. Has anyone else come across a system that offers ultrasound frequencies above 1 MHz??

http://www.makemeheal.com/mmh/product.do?id=26986&procid=50&catid=1247
https://secure.mendmeshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=8f3d098125ea29978573456f1898d1e1


My ultrasonic beauty device is 3mhz.
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One that looks nice because it has a combination of features is the Facemate 330. It's also listed on Ebay:
http://www.healthxp.com/ultrasonic-beauty-facemate-es330-p-171.html

• 1MHz Ultrasonic(Vibration: 1 million times/sec) Delivered by the larger disk. With the safe, special design of touched control panel, there are 8 intensities to induct ions deeply into any kind of skin. When without contact with skin at 5 seconds, the ultrasonic head will stop outputting wave (but the time is still running) avoiding any over heat and burnt out.

• 3MHz Ultrasonic (Vibration: 3 million times/sec) Delivered by the smaller disk. There are 8 intensities of inductions for inducting negative ions superficially into any kind of skin. Use 3MHz alternately with 1MHz, the effect can be enhanced.

• Negative ion
After using ultrasonic, inducting negative ion for 5 minutes can make skin softness and harmony

• Mixed wave micro current (good effect of removing furrow)
Use microwave to massage the face, it can activate cells, improve metabolism, hence extend the life cycle of cells and prevent furrow recurrence.

• High energy light (nano 660nm wave length)
Researches show that, when using low energy heliotheraphy narrow wave length together with ultrasonic, the light wave with wave length of 480nm ~880nm can activate enzyme C in the cell, to create more energy to accelerate the combination of DNA & RNA to make collagen fiber or motion fiber to eliminate the dead cells and impurities.

• Skin moisture test
It can test the skin if the skin is dry, average or moist. Moisturizer is recommended for dry skin while applying this device.

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Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:31 pm      Reply with quote
You can find 3-5mhz easily on ebay for home use.

As for the ultrasound spatula, it's great for gentle exfoliation and also for cleansing the skin and pores. As for a dermwand, that's not an anti-aging device either, although it's marketed as one. Any anti-aging effect of a high frequency machine is really secondary- what it does best is disinfect the skin.

I'm also talking in the context of giving facials as a professional, not necc, home use re: the spatula.
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poohlisey wrote:
ScotsLass wrote:
Hi lipglossdoll - I couldn't open your link, so I'm not certain what type of ultrasound system you are interested in. What do you hope to achieve by having one? I would love to source an Ultrasound system that I can use for joint pain, facial firming and cellulite reduction (yeah, I know, I'm asking for the moon!). From what I understand, cellulite reduction can be achieved only by a machine that sends 2-3 MHz of ultrasound frequency. The at-home units I found below only send 1 MHz of frequency - which is suitable for facial firming and/or pain reduction. Has anyone else come across a system that offers ultrasound frequencies above 1 MHz??

http://www.makemeheal.com/mmh/product.do?id=26986&procid=50&catid=1247
https://secure.mendmeshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=8f3d098125ea29978573456f1898d1e1


My ultrasonic beauty device is 3mhz.


What have you got, Poohlisey, and are you pleased with it?
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:42 pm      Reply with quote
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My ultrasonic beauty device is 3mhz.


Hi poohlisey - I just came across an Ultrasonic Facial Massager with Face Mate that looks interesting...it offers both 1 MHz and 3 MHz frequencies. Is this the same unit you are using? http://www.chiisland.com/ultrasound_beauty/face_mate.shtml. Oh, and what were you hoping to achieve with your device (and did it perform as you had hoped?).

Thanks for your help! Smile

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One that looks nice because it has a combination of features is the Facemate 330. It's also listed on Ebay:
http://www.healthxp.com/ultrasonic-beauty-facemate-es330-p-171.html


Hi lunarmm - You are right, this device looks very interesting! I believe it is the exact same unit I found here http://www.chiisland.com/ultrasound_beauty/face_mate.shtml , except your source offers this device at a cheaper price ($239 vs. $279). I have not compared the shipping costs to see if this makes a difference (ebay can really sock it to you with inflated shipping rates at times). Based on first impressions though it looks really good!

Thanks so much for sharing! Very Happy

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My ultrasonic beauty device is 3mhz.


Hi poohlisey - I just came across an Ultrasonic Facial Massager with Face Mate that looks interesting...it offers both 1 MHz and 3 MHz frequencies. Is this the same unit you are using? http://www.chiisland.com/ultrasound_beauty/face_mate.shtml. Oh, and what were you hoping to achieve with your device (and did it perform as you had hoped?).

Thanks for your help! Smile


Hi ScotsLass. Mine is only 3mhz. I got the UltraSonice Beauty Device SD-958. You don't want to mess with 1mhz on your face. Anything lower than 3mhz on the face, I heard can damage the tissues (especially soft face tissues). Also, my model is FDA approved, and is safe to use on the face, & eyes. You can't find it on ebay.

http://www.ib3health.com/products/UltrasonicBeauty/SonicBeauty/Index.shtml
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poohlisey wrote:
ScotsLass wrote:
poohlisey wrote:


My ultrasonic beauty device is 3mhz.


Hi poohlisey - I just came across an Ultrasonic Facial Massager with Face Mate that looks interesting...it offers both 1 MHz and 3 MHz frequencies. Is this the same unit you are using? http://www.chiisland.com/ultrasound_beauty/face_mate.shtml. Oh, and what were you hoping to achieve with your device (and did it perform as you had hoped?).

Thanks for your help! Smile


Hi ScotsLass. Mine is only 3mhz. I got the UltraSonice Beauty Device SD-958. You don't want to mess with 1mhz on your face. Anything lower than 3mhz on the face, I heard can damage the tissues (especially soft face tissues). Also, my model is FDA approved, and is safe to use on the face, & eyes. You can't find it on ebay.

[url]http://www.ib3health.com/products/UltrasonicBeaut
y/SonicBeauty/Index.shtml[/url]


Are you pleased with it, Poohlisey? Does it do what it says?
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Are you pleased with it, Poohlisey? Does it do what it says?

Yes, I'm very please with it! To me, it does what it said on my face, because that's the only place I really use ultrasonic on so far. I've tried it on the legs 2x but since I only have 1 oz of conductive gel, I decided to try it on my body later. My face is the one that need serious care too Embarassed .

I love the results! It's the best beauty machine I've invested in Very Happy .
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I bought one about 3 years ago (around $250 I think) but only used it few times. It's too hard to glide. A skin boutique SA told me that in Japan every woman has one.


That's very interesting. Most Japanese women I have seen have very good skin and look younger than their ages. I wonder if it has something to do with ultrasound or some other gadgets. Very Happy
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poohlisey wrote:
ScotsLass wrote:
poohlisey wrote:


My ultrasonic beauty device is 3mhz.


Hi poohlisey - I just came across an Ultrasonic Facial Massager with Face Mate that looks interesting...it offers both 1 MHz and 3 MHz frequencies. Is this the same unit you are using? http://www.chiisland.com/ultrasound_beauty/face_mate.shtml. Oh, and what were you hoping to achieve with your device (and did it perform as you had hoped?).

Thanks for your help! Smile


Hi ScotsLass. Mine is only 3mhz. I got the UltraSonice Beauty Device SD-958. You don't want to mess with 1mhz on your face. Anything lower than 3mhz on the face, I heard can damage the tissues (especially soft face tissues). Also, my model is FDA approved, and is safe to use on the face, & eyes. You can't find it on ebay.

http://www.ib3health.com/products/UltrasonicBeauty/SonicBeauty/Index.shtml


Thanks for the great link! This website carries a number of ultrasound beauty devices, including the Facemate ES 330 that intrigued lunarmm and myself. However, only two models are FDA approved (yours and one other). I am still wrapping my head around the dangers of using 1 MHz and 3 MHz ultrasound frequencies. Contrary to what I originally thought, 1 MHz frequency penetrates significantly deeper than 3 MHz. So 1 MHz is great for pain reduction, but can cause different forms of cellular damage should you use it as a skin rejuvenation treatment on your face (as you indicated above). 3 MHz frequency targets shallower areas and this was deemed safe and effective to use on your face. It's also effective for cellulite reduction as it again targets the shallow areas under the skin that contain the fat and toxins which create those nasty dimples. Apparently ultrasound can help break down those fatty deposits and firm the skin again.

ETA: Poohlisey - I am so glad to hear that you are so pleased with this device! How long have you been using it now and how often do you give yourself a treatment (every day, week, etc?). And how long is each treatment? Also, why did you choose this particular model when the website has other 3 MHz devices available? Was it strictly the FDA approval? Thanks again!

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ScotsLass--


Sorry, I forgot to answer you other question on how i liked mine. I got this to improve my skin conditions, such as acne, pore size, etc. I didn't get it to get rid fat excess or anything. 1mhz is aim at larger muscles areas. 3mhz is good for facial. I really LOVE this device! I'm really satisfied with the results. Smaller pores, smoother skin, firmer skin, etc!
If you do get it, never use it without a conducting gel. I tried it without a conducting gel and it didn't do anything for my face, until I started using it with a conducting gel. This machine has given me clear skin for 3 months.
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Are you pleased with it, Poohlisey? Does it do what it says?

Yes, I'm very please with it! To me, it does what it said on my face, because that's the only place I really use ultrasonic on so far. I've tried it on the legs 2x but since I only have 1 oz of conductive gel, I decided to try it on my body later. My face is the one that need serious care too Embarassed .

I love the results! It's the best beauty machine I've invested in Very Happy .
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sorry for the double post.. my computer is acting up.

ScotsLass,

I got it because it's the safest one to use for the face, hence it's FDA approved. I use it everynight for 10 minutes before I go to bed on the weekdays. On the weekends, I use it for longer than 10 minutes, love the special treatments! It makes my skin really moisturized and soft. You can use it on your eye areas too! It does a great job for depuffing the eyes. The face mate looks good, but I really don't like multipurpose devices, they tend to break easier on me. I've been using this device for 3 months now. Smile
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poohlisey - this is starting to make me pee from laughter Laughing Laughing Laughing !!! Every time I attempt to reply to your post, you are replying to mine - it's like a serious game of keyboard TAG!!!

Thanks for answering my questions and sharing your experience with this very interesting device! I am definitely going to look into it further Exclamation

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poohlisey - this is starting to make me pee with laughter Laughing Laughing Laughing !!! Every time I attempt to reply to your post, you are replying to mine - it's like a serious game of keyboard TAG!!!

Thanks for answering my questions and sharing your experience with this very interesting device! I am definitely going to look into it further Exclamation


LOL! Laughing I've never tried HA with the device. I was going to get cilabo aqua sonic device before, but after looking at the price, it broke my heart. I have to admit, I am happy with my UltraSonic SD-958!! Very Happy I tried CiLabo conducting gel with my Ultrasonic, but it didn't give great results as the one that came with my Ultrasonic.

This is CiLabo Aqua Sonic Device:


http://cilabousa.com/en/product_beauty.asp
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Thanks poohlisey!

Great site.
Have any of you taken a look at the new models they have? Ultrasound/LED sounds like best of both worlds?
I'm still deciding about adding bells and whistles or not...!!! Very Happy
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Thanks poohlisey!

Great site.
Have any of you taken a look at the new models they have? Ultrasound/LED sounds like best of both worlds?
I'm still deciding about adding bells and whistles or not...!!! Very Happy


I am having a "senior moment". What model are you looking at that is Ultrasound/Led? Please forgive me for my ignorance.

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I found the Facemate for significantly less on Ebay:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=Facemate

I think the 1mhz is made for muscle aches / injuries on body. 3mhz for face.

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Frodo wrote:
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Thanks poohlisey!

Great site.
Have any of you taken a look at the new models they have? Ultrasound/LED sounds like best of both worlds?
I'm still deciding about adding bells and whistles or not...!!! Very Happy


I am having a "senior moment". What model are you looking at that is Ultrasound/Led? Please forgive me for my ignorance.


You can find quite a few with ultrasound/infrared combined.

http://www.ib3health.com/products/UltrasonicBeauty/Index.shtml
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