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Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:56 pm      Reply with quote
I live in Canada and want to buy a derma roller for my cellulite on the back of my thighs. Where is the best site to get a good derma roller besides ebay?

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I finally used the 0.25 roller. It was scary at first but when I got the hang of it, it was fun. Slap me! I'm lying! Laughing I wasn't sure of how much pressure to use. I started off lightly and had slight pinkish tone, nothing like a sunburn. I went over my face again using more pressure and was satisfied with the results. Yes! I got the sunburn look. There was no bleeding. After an hour I spot treated with super cop 2x. It burnt for about five minutes. This is the first time I felt the 2x doing something whereas before I saw the results.

My question is:
Do you roll one each facial area as a whole or do you break each section?

I did the forehead in three parts, the cheeks in four, the chin in two. The nose got me confused - too many sides!
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I have been trying to read this thread but it is so long - so if this question has been asked before, please forgive me.
My doctor thinned the skin over my entire body by giving me steroid injections for pain. I am in my early thirties but have skin like that of a woman who is twenty years older. My knees have bagged - when relaxed the skin sags and wrinkles.
I got a cheap skin roller, and have used it twice in one week - but after the inflammation goes down, my knees look worse than before. Is this normal? It is a .75mm roller. Any insight would help me out. Thanks
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somebody mentioned a guy named "Jack" that sells Dr. Rollers for a discount to EDS members and also ships to canada. I tried calling him and emailing without a respond. Anybody know whats going on?

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I've done a little bit of research but going through 170+ pages is a bit much for me, so if anyone could answer my questions, I'd greatly appreciate it!

I have some shallow scars and redmarks that I would like to get rid of. I'm thinking of purchasing a 1.5mm dermaroller to use every 4-6 weeks with a vitamin C serum to boost collagen after.

1) Do I need to also buy a 0.2mm roller to use with the vitamin C serum every morning? If so, would the 0.2mm roller be light enough that I can wear liquid foundation over it without any problems?

2) I also use 8% AHA every night... Can I continue to use this product while I am dermarolling?
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Hi all, I am in the UK and looking to try to reverse my wrinkles which are mainly caused by way to much time on the sunbed in my teenage years. I ahve a dermaroller on ebay amd it has 1.0mm needles. Will this be OK and do I need anything else? I keep reading about actives and CP but it means nothing to me.... If I need other things can anyone UK based advise where to get the other items from???
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Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:46 am      Reply with quote
This is Miranda wrote:
hippychick wrote:
Well I last did a roll (very aggressive) almost 9 weeks ago now and I'm thinking of doing another this Friday.

This might be a stupid question but for future reference I was wondering how to use a single needle for individual lines (such as the 11's).

Do you poke the needle into the line itself or either side of it? Do you dot really close together in a zig zag pattern that covers both the line and the skin immediately to either side of the line?

I'm not planning on doing it just yet but I'm still trying to research that as I can't picture it and can't find anything on youtube.

Thanks in advance! Smile


Single needle use:

Stretch marks/scars - will need 'needle abrasion' which means dense needling WITHIN in the scar.

Acne, chicken pox and single wrinkles - will need only 10 to 20 needle pricks within the scar/wrinkle.

Both should be done 5 days after a deep roll for optimum results.

Indepth guidelines can be found here from the Owndoc site



Thanks a lot Miranda, that's really great, exactly what I wanted to know.

I started another deep roll tonight, my first in about 10 weeks.

Oh dear God I think my face is on fire! I don't remember it hurting this much last time! I had to get a bottle of wine out of the fridge! I think I'll try again when there's a bit less wine in the bottle... Wink

Actually it's not my entire face that feels like it's on fire, just the bit that I did before the swearing and squealing started... Laughing Embarassed
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Well, I did my first dermaroller with a 1.5 needle and no numbing cream. I thought that I had a smaller needle because it was no big deal to me, although I was not pressing hard. At the end I did to see if it really hurt. I double checked the box and it is a Dr.roller 1.5 needle.
No biggie at all. I loved the popping sound.
My face looks very red like a bad sunburn.

Can someone please tell me if tomorrow I should apply sunblock? I need to go for a dentist appointment and the sun is very intense these days where I live.

TIA!
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After the overwhelming response to my question Laughing I decided to put on some SS and headed to my dentist's appointment. I haven't been out much though, which is boring.

Anyway, I found a clinic in Victoria, BC and have some "after" spectacular pictures. I will probably go and ask questions over there and the products they use.

http://www.dermalintegrity.com/index.html
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Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:17 am      Reply with quote
I've finally read through the whole post and yes it makes very interesting reading however in my research so far on dermarollers I really don't see enough evidence to see that they consistently make a difference.
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Toby wrote:
I have been advised from a skin specialist to cleanse my face and put no product on but keep warm water on my face while I roll and to drip the roller into water after each roll. Now the water isn't for sanitary reasons it helps with penetration of the additives later. I apply cps or other additives when I am finished. This is the process for the morning rollwith the leaf and rusher roller. I roll quickly and don't spent one minute in the total process because it it just to get the product in. I am just starting with retin-a. The last months of rolling didn't involve any use of retin-a.
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Hi Girls!

I'm slowly reading through this whole thread but can't wait till I've read through to the end to start asking questions and posting Dancing

On Friday I purchased a 1.5mm dermaroller from Nova here in Australia and can't wait to receive it. I have a question about Toby's suggestion - would you recommend rolling under the shower then?

Another question - I've recently done a TCA peel and was wondering how long after this I should wait till I roll.

Thank you soooooooooooo much girls for all of your wonderful information x

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Well my 1.5mm dermaroller arrived today. I've rolled but because my hands shook I dropped it into the sink and have bent some of the needles!!!!! Brick wall

I kept going anyway. It was weird - some parts of my face hurt but then my chin area tickled!!!! Question

My face now looks sunburned. I've set an alarm for 40 minutes and then I'll put some Ultraceuticals cream on (I can't remember which one but I'll update you all when I next post).

I'm pretty confused as to whether I should be rolling every week or waiting 6 weeks between rolls. Any suggestions from veteran rollers?

Cheers!
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Update - 10 minutes later.

My skin already feels tighter LOL. I'm sure that must be the inflammation. I feel like going to get my roller and rolling again already! I'm one of those people who tend to go hard (too hard????) when it comes to using treatments. Any thoughts girls....?
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:47 am      Reply with quote
HI, ChicitaGatita, I'm not an expert, but I don't think you roll with a 1.5 any more frequently than once every 6 wks.
Please try not to overdo. Wink

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Hi Mars

Lovely to hear from you. I was beginning to think no-one was reading this thread anymore.

Well my skin looks fabulous this morning. Better than it's looked in ages. I'm not noticing any differences in my lines, but that's not my main issue. My skin looks brighter, more even toned, and my pores look smaller.

I'd done two TCA peels in the two weeks prior to doing my rolling and I've been using Retin A for about 6 weeks. After I rolled I waited 45 minutes and then put on Ultraceuticals 23% Vitamin C cream. It hurt/itched a little bit but not too much. This morning I put on Ultraceuticals Ultra A facial cream which has Vit A, Retinol, Vit E, Green Tea and AHA, followed by Cetaphil moisturiser, followed by 30+ clear sunblock.

Next time I roll I'm going to take a painkiller before hand, ice each section of my face before I roll and I might do two rolls. I wish I'd rolled for longer last night but I wimped out (pain) and as I said above I was feeling like doing it again 30 minutes later. It's just a matter of pacing myself.

I don't have any after effects today - no redness, no peeling, no pinprick holes etc. I'll keep you posted on how I go over the next few days. I'll use Retin A tonight as I believe I'll be fine. I have very tough skin that is the absolute opposite of very sensitive.

Feeling v happy with results so far, but I know this is prob just because of inflammation and that actual collagen regrowth takes about 6 weeks and it's supposed to take 90 days before I see any real results.
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I've just dermarolled my right hip/thigh area over my stretchmarks. I'll be using Retin A in a few minutes. I
ll keep you posted on how that goes.
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Hello ladies. I've been using a derma roller 3 times a week on my face and neck with 0.3mm needles and am now using one with 1.0mm needles once a month. A dermatologist told me that there's no point in deep needling more often, since the process of building new collagen takes a month to six weeks to complete and more frequent needling will not speed up the process so is unnecessary. Improvement is about 10% per session, so it will be a year before your skin is twice as good as it was at the start.

I think some websites that show before and after photos and claim instant results are cheating: the face is swollen after needling so of course lines will look as if they have vanished.

I'm also appalled by the costs of having needling done in a salon. In the country I live in, rollers above 0.3mm needle length are not allowed to be sold to the public, so you have to go to a salon for expensive treatment if you want deeper needling. I just ordered a 1.0mm roller from a company in the UK.

I use an ice-pack to help with the pain of needling, though it doesn't stop the sneezing fit I get whenever I do my left temple, must be hitting a nerve or something. Surprised

I use a creme afterwards which greatly helps to reduce the irritation, stimulates collagen production and feeds the skin. I have it made up for me to order by a small Dutch company: it contains vitamines A,E and C, plus hyaluronic acid and fibrostimuline, no perfume, no chemical additives, no animal testing used and a minimum amount of preservative, so it has to be kept in the fridge. Not expensive, costs 18 euros for 50ml.

I'm hoping for a reduction in wrinkles, pore size and pigment spots. So far my general skin tone has improved and the fine lines on my upper lip have been reduced considerably.

By the way, my face doesn't bleed when I roll, but the backs of my hands do a little, so I guess the skin is thinner on hands.
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:41 am      Reply with quote
Hi Betsie! Welcome! Speak to the hand

I'd love to hear how I can order the serum from the Dutch place. It sounds fabulous. How long have you been rolling for with the smaller roller, and how long have you been rolling with the 1.0mm and what results have you seen?

Cheers!
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ChicitaGatita wrote:
Hi Betsie! Welcome! Speak to the hand

I'd love to hear how I can order the serum from the Dutch place. It sounds fabulous. How long have you been rolling for with the smaller roller, and how long have you been rolling with the 1.0mm and what results have you seen?

Cheers!
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Hi, CG! Thanks! Smile
I've been using the smaller one for 3 months, and the 1.0MM one I've used twice. The smaller one claims to do no more than tone the skin and increase absorption of face cream, so that's what I've been using it for 3 times per week. The one with longer needles is supposed to work on lines and wrinkles, pigment spots and enlarged pores, stimulating the growth of collagen, so I'll have to be patient.

What I have noticed with the longer needles is that my skin is "busy" for about a week after treatment: a slight, not unpleasant tingling,as if the skin is working hard to renew itself, and the vertical fine lines on my upper lip have really improved a lot, so I have great hopes for the future with the 1.0mm roller. I'm also using it on the back of one hand to see if there is any difference in the pigment spots over time.

I'll send you a PM about the cream, since I think we aren't allowed to recommend names of products on this forum.
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Thanks Betsie. I think you have to post a certain number of posts before you can PM anyone so I'll have to be patient :P If you want to increase your posts then post in the introduction thread and respond to people's welcomes Smile
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ChicitaGatita wrote:
Thanks Betsie. I think you have to post a certain number of posts before you can PM anyone so I'll have to be patient :P If you want to increase your posts then post in the introduction thread and respond to people's welcomes Smile


I sent you a PM yesterday, CG, and the system seemed to be working. Maybe I'll try again later when I have more posts.
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Hi ladies. I am a male who has undergone weight gain with the result of getting stretchmarks on my hips and a few small ones on the love handles. I am planning on buying the dermaroller. I wanted to ask what needle length you are using? I am thinking of buying the 2.0 mm ones for stretchmarks as i am guessing that anything smaller will not be able to penetrate deep enough to actually make a difference.

Also can i ask to the people who say they have seen a difference in the stretchmarks, have they just seen fading of the stretchmarks from red to the silvery-white colour, in other words has the dermaroller simply speeded up the process of fading, or have the stretchmarks bvecome smaller in diameter and width as well? I am going to read this forum for tips on how to get the best results, but any further tips would be much appreciated Smile
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:28 pm      Reply with quote
Hi Shadow! Welcome Smile

I've only used it once on my stretch marks and these ones are silvery in colour. So it's too early for me to say. There was someone who had great success with stretch marks. I can't remember who she was but have a read through (I know it's a loooooooooong thread!). Keep us posted on your results once you get your roller.
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C.G. I think you can name the company - many posts have company products and websites listed. Please dish the name of your dutch company. thanks.

You cannot endorse your own products, DIY products for $$, etc. It is not a place for advertising but you are not advertising - you are sharing information to help others on EDS. If I'm incorrect I hope the mods will let me know however we are talking about a product on another site which is the same situation and no problems have resulted. We all try to help each other.

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Where do you buy your dermaroller?? I'm newbie...may some advice about before and after rolling...

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