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Wed May 16, 2012 6:13 pm      Reply with quote
Can I use Rosehip Oil after using a Dermaroller?

If not, what will be the best oil or serum?
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Wed May 16, 2012 6:41 pm      Reply with quote
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Can I use Rosehip Oil after using a Dermaroller?

If not, what will be the best oil or serum?
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I have not rolled yet, just got my rollers but here is a review that is very positive for using Rosehip seed oil:

Oils for Skin Needling Rollers #1: Rose Hip

http://www.homedermarolling.org/2010/12/oils-for-dermarollers-1-rose-hip.html

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Does Dermaroller work on Hypertropic scars?
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Sun May 20, 2012 1:59 pm      Reply with quote
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Does Dermaroller work on Hypertropic scars?


http://forum.owndoc.com/showthread.php?617-What-to-do-about-hypertrophic-scars

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Firefox7275, this clip (http://www.youtube.com/user/dermaPen?v=29bWwHzl1ec (see 1:47)) makes me think twice about a roller. It seems to cause much more damage than needed through the rolling action.


Sorry I am late in replying. According to OwnDoc the opposite is true, and I am inclined to believe OwnDoc due to the accumulated experience here. I have eczema and have over-exfoliated many times so I know what a damaged skin barrier feels like. I *think* there has also been research into how long the increased permeability remains for after rolling, if the barrier was being destroyed as that advert claims you would have increased permeability for days while the epidermis heals. IMO how much damage you do to the epidermis depends how aggressive you are - I don't push hard because I have grazed and irritated my skin that way. I get plenty of pinprick bleeding so I know I am pressing hard enough.
http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/derma-pen-review/

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Fri May 25, 2012 11:30 am      Reply with quote
Though my question is not directly related to derma rolling but it does involve tissue damage... I was wondering if controlled bruising alone without micro needling could be beneficial to skin as well..

" A bruise, also called a contusion, is a type of relatively minor hematoma of tissue in which capillaries and sometimes venules are damaged by trauma, allowing blood to seep into the surrounding interstitial tissues."

I ask as recently I started using a vaculifter and if not careful, it's v easy to leave your face all purple n blue with it, and that what happened to me! But when the bruises cleared in few days my skin appeared bright & fresh.. there could be other reasons for this but just a thought, any comments? Thank you
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Hello, after a back tooth abscess my right cheek got swollen for a couple days but know it's not the same in terms of tightness,my tooth has been treated and the source of the swelling went down but I think it left it saggy, will that be temporary or my cheek has been stretched forever? My left cheek is very tight and soft but the other is just not the same texture, I have been doing Tanaka Massage for saggyness and it kinda help but it is still saggy. I'd like to know if the Dermaroller can help me tight and lift my right cheek again?

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Sat May 26, 2012 9:05 am      Reply with quote
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I ask as recently I started using a vaculifter and if not careful, it's v easy to leave your face all purple n blue with it, and that what happened to me! But when the bruises cleared in few days my skin appeared bright & fresh.. there could be other reasons for this but just a thought, any comments? Thank you

Interesting. Wet cupping in TCM has shown to be quite effective [ German study] for reducing pain / healing ?, not specifically skin texture. That, one can hypothesize is due to the direct injury and the blood pulling, may even be due to the bruise formation and the entire healing cytokine and paracrine healing cascade that kicks off. Unknown. [ but pretty likely]

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Sun May 27, 2012 8:21 am      Reply with quote
My concern with cupping/ bruising would be whether the user is able to inflict the controlled damage we aim for with dermarolling. A certain degree of inflammation is part of the healing cascade, but too much inflammation can destroy surrounding healthy tissue and prolong the healing period.

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Sun May 27, 2012 9:34 am      Reply with quote
Agree with you. Yet, the research seems to such otherwise and the mechanisms for the effect remain unknown. It was a well controlled study with sham. Who knows? Many things are effective, for some people, but not all, and may well be placebo.

Fortunately, with skin needling, there is histological evidence to prove otherwise. 80% and over of patients receiving anywhere from 1-4 treatments and still improving a year out. Compared to LED with max 52% of participants showing 25-50% improvement and that is using the correct panels and not hand held units.

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Wed May 30, 2012 8:18 am      Reply with quote
Is Dermaroller safe to use on your hair scalp and how does it make your hair healthy and grow faster?
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Also, can the Dermaroller help unblock hair follicles that are trapped or wont grow due to product build up , chemicals, heat....?
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Wed May 30, 2012 1:31 pm      Reply with quote
morocha wrote:
Is Dermaroller safe to use on your hair scalp and how does it make your hair healthy and grow faster?

Also, can the Dermaroller help unblock hair follicles that are trapped or wont grow due to product build up , chemicals, heat....?


I don't see how you could roll your scalp without getting hair tangled in the mechanism, unless you have a close cropped hairstyle. AFAIK blocked follicles/ product build up/ heat styling doesn't stop hair growing, where did you get that idea from?

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Wed May 30, 2012 1:34 pm      Reply with quote
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morocha wrote:
Is Dermaroller safe to use on your hair scalp and how does it make your hair healthy and grow faster?

Also, can the Dermaroller help unblock hair follicles that are trapped or wont grow due to product build up , chemicals, heat....?


I don't see how you could roll your scalp without getting hair tangled in the mechanism, unless you have a close cropped hairstyle. AFAIK blocked follicles/ product build up/ heat styling doesn't stop hair growing, where did you get that idea from?


It is explained in the book to go in one direction only! Smile

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It is explained in the book to go in one direction only! Smile


Maybe I am being thick but I don't see how going one way stops hair being drawn up the back of the roller, given that it is going round like a wheel and it is covered in prongs. I can see that would reduce the severity of tangling compared with back and forth. Question Then there is the hygiene issue, if you do a food/ clean room safety you are always taught that hair is a risk for contamination, and you obviously can't clean it with alcohol as you can skin.

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DarkMoon wrote:

It is explained in the book to go in one direction only! Smile


Maybe I am being thick but I don't see how going one way stops hair being drawn up the back of the roller, given that it is going round like a wheel and it is covered in prongs. I can see that would reduce the severity of tangling compared with back and forth. Question Then there is the hygiene issue, if you do a food/ clean room safety you are always taught that hair is a risk for contamination, and you obviously can't clean it with alcohol as you can skin.


He adds that if you feel it slow/drag then stop and make sure hair is not caught.

Hair can be washed with a surgical scrub such as Betadine or Hibicleans prior, then you do need to be willing to wash your hair with sulphates!

Of course you can clean the SCALP with alcohol just like your skin, just in small areas at a time. Wink

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Ok. I have a derma roller. I've had it about 2-3 years and I'm not sure of the size or where I bought it. I'm hoping someone can identify it. It came in a white plastic cylinder, and has MH on the top of the handle. The needles are small but I don't know what size and I'm trying to figure out where I got it so I can go from there!! Is this like a needle in the haystack?
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Ok. I have a derma roller. I've had it about 2-3 years and I'm not sure of the size or where I bought it. I'm hoping someone can identify it. It came in a white plastic cylinder, and has MH on the top of the handle. The needles are small but I don't know what size and I'm trying to figure out where I got it so I can go from there!! Is this like a needle in the haystack?


You might check the images here, other than that it's a needle in a haystack.
http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermaroller-review/
Do also read the text, it suggests similar looking rollers are available from more than one source with totally different levels of quality. Confused

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Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:22 pm      Reply with quote
DebM wrote:
Ok. I have a derma roller. I've had it about 2-3 years and I'm not sure of the size or where I bought it. I'm hoping someone can identify it. It came in a white plastic cylinder, and has MH on the top of the handle. The needles are small but I don't know what size and I'm trying to figure out where I got it so I can go from there!! Is this like a needle in the haystack?


You can see many different rollers on:

Dr. Roller:

http://www.dr-roller-shop.com/dr-roller

Other rollers:

http://www.dr-roller-shop.com/Derma-Rollers

Good luck, I hope you find the one you have! Smile

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Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:41 am      Reply with quote
Hello, I have got a few questions if that is OK.

- I have been recommended to use a 1.5mm for deep scars and a 1.0mm for light scars, does the 1.5mm not cover both the light and deep scars?

- Does derma rolling have any negative effect on hair molecules, facial hair for example?

- And finally is the general oppinion to avoid the cheaper makes of rollers such as the example listed below:

ebay.co.uk/itm/540-Titanium-Microneedle-540-Needle-Roller-Acne-Skin-Hair-Loss-Wrinkles-Derma-MM-/160763983171?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Skincare_PP&var=&hash=item6b1ea56375#ht_10298wt_1289

Any help is appreciated thank you.
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:38 pm      Reply with quote
Can Dermaroller help me tighten saggy cheeks due to tooth abscess?
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:03 pm      Reply with quote
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Can Dermaroller help me tighten saggy cheeks due to tooth abscess?


is your abscess completely healed? you may have residual inflammation making the cheek saggy...
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:44 pm      Reply with quote
I'm in the process of having it totally treated, I have 2 more treatments to remove the abscess. I'm just wondering if the Dermaroller can help tighten the saggy skin caused by the swollen tissue.
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:46 pm      Reply with quote
morocha wrote:
I'm in the process of having it totally treated, I have 2 more treatments to remove the abscess. I'm just wondering if the Dermaroller can help tighten the saggy skin caused by the swollen tissue.


I am sure your skin will tighten up on it's own once your swelling is gone.. dermaroller will not tighten a swollen tissue, it may make it worse...
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:13 pm      Reply with quote
Hi- I'm new here. I'm reading dermarollers need to be replaced often, how often do most people replace them?

are the cheap dermarollers on ebay ok? the cheap and expensive ones all look sorta similar... the green with the clear handle, the tan ones, purple and black handle ones... and I read they all are made in china anyway.

also, I think I made mistake and order the roller with 500 needles. I'm reading this is too many and won't really penetrate the skin, and all the needles are more like little knives than needles due to the way they are cut. will I still get any benefit from it till I can order the regular 200 needle rollers?(waiting to hear if it's ok to order the ones on ebay before ordering another one!)
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