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schnauzer1
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:45 am      Reply with quote
Hi,
I'm a newbie to dermarolling and have a few questions. I ordered the 0.5 and 1 mm MTS roller and want to start rolling for fine wrinkles. Last night I tested the 0.5 mm on my hands, just to see what type of inflammation response that I would get. It was a little red right after, but this morning it's good. So my questions are. Should I use the 0.5mm all over my face, or should I attempt the 1.0 mm, is the 1.0 mm better? Also, when going over an area, do you go over it 4 times(vertically), lifting the roller after each roll and then do the opposite direction and do you reposition the roller after you lift it off the skin? Not sure where I read the 4 times.

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Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:01 pm      Reply with quote
Schnauzer, all the best info I've found is available free at Owndoc in their protocol and on the forum.
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Fri May 02, 2014 7:20 am      Reply with quote
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/

Hi, here's a link to the forum mentioned.
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Mon May 05, 2014 8:04 am      Reply with quote
I dont really know if this is the same as the ones that cost an arm and both legs but..... do an online search for aliexpress.
aliexpress is a web site with all Chinese venders. I bought a derma roller for less than $10. I havent used it yet so I cant tell you how well it works. I have never used a derma roller so I wont even know if it compares to the expensive ones you are all paying. It looks like it though. For the price? Its worth checking out.
The U.S gets all their products from China anyway. Cut out the middle man, who is goudging the hell out of us. Plus its free shipping.
I buy from this site alot. I have had no problems.
(when you go to the aliexpress website just type dermaroller in the search box. All the venders that sell them will be listed with their price) Its a great site. excellent prices ,...... on everything you could imagine.

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Fri May 09, 2014 7:37 am      Reply with quote
I was interested to see that Fawnie had mentioned Dr. Setterfield's on line course. $399.00. Suddenly his book is looking more affordable $65 on Amazon.
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Wed May 14, 2014 8:27 pm      Reply with quote
Well, I've been using a different derma stamp now and I have no problems drawing blood on my face. I do prefer it to the roller as it's much less painful. Also easier to control. Body skin seems too thick for it though.
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Thu May 15, 2014 3:31 pm      Reply with quote
lagomorph,
what dermastamp are you using?
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I am having a tattoo removed with skinila next week i have my last session. It left me a pink scar in one ankle, do you think dermarrolling te scar eill help, as the scar is created by needles and the product the put in the skin with the needles.

How long should i have to wait to start dermarollin th scar. Maybe one month?
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Fri May 16, 2014 8:52 am      Reply with quote
Pablita wrote:
I am having a tattoo removed with skinial, next week i have my last session. It left me a pink scar in one ankle, do you think dermarrolling te scar would help? as the scar is created by needles and the product the put in the skin with the needles.

How long should i have to wait to start dermarollin th scar. Maybe one month?
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Sat May 17, 2014 8:34 pm      Reply with quote
Lorraineg57 wrote:
lagomorph,
what dermastamp are you using?


It's just one I got off ebay for like, basically nothing, $7. It looks just like all the other generic yellow derma stamps and the shipping was really slow. The needle length is a bit longer,I started with a 1.0 and had trouble getting pinpoint blood spots with it. My skin is on the thick side so ymmv.

Love the derma stamp, it's so much better for me than rolling. I hardly need topical numbing with this, far less painful. I gave the derma roller a trial a long time ago but never liked doing it. This is much easier IMO. Slower maybe but I don't mind doing it which is key.

Did my forehead, under eyes and top of cheek area Friday. Will let you guys know if I get any results.
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Sat May 17, 2014 8:38 pm      Reply with quote
klysteele wrote:
I dont really know if this is the same as the ones that cost an arm and both legs but..... do an online search for aliexpress.
aliexpress is a web site with all Chinese venders. I bought a derma roller for less than $10. I havent used it yet so I cant tell you how well it works. I have never used a derma roller so I wont even know if it compares to the expensive ones you are all paying. It looks like it though. For the price? Its worth checking out.
The U.S gets all their products from China anyway. Cut out the middle man, who is goudging the hell out of us. Plus its free shipping.
I buy from this site alot. I have had no problems.
(when you go to the aliexpress website just type dermaroller in the search box. All the venders that sell them will be listed with their price) Its a great site. excellent prices ,...... on everything you could imagine.


Thanks for the info. I always thought you had to buy in bulk from that site?
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Pablita wrote:
I am having a tattoo removed with skinila next week i have my last session. It left me a pink scar in one ankle, do you think dermarrolling te scar eill help, as the scar is created by needles and the product the put in the skin with the needles.

How long should i have to wait to start dermarollin th scar. Maybe one month?


Hmm, not sure about the time element. I have some laparoscopic surgery scars that I've used individual needles on and it definitely worked for those. Not sure what a tatoo removal scar looks like-mine were slightly raised scars.
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Sun May 18, 2014 8:57 am      Reply with quote
lagomorph wrote:
Pablita wrote:
I am having a tattoo removed with skinila next week i have my last session. It left me a pink scar in one ankle, do you think dermarrolling te scar eill help, as the scar is created by needles and the product the put in the skin with the needles.

How long should i have to wait to start dermarollin th scar. Maybe one month?


Hmm, not sure about the time element. I have some laparoscopic surgery scars that I've used individual needles on and it definitely worked for those. Not sure what a tatoo removal scar looks like-mine were slightly raised scars.


I have read single needdles are muxh better for scars but i am afraid to use it, i bought one last year for little scar on my fotehead but have not been able to use it, each time i try i freak out and i am not able to out it on my skin.

My tattoo scar is kind of purple, not raised, same to the touch as normal skin but that ugly purple colour.
As well i am doing the Fe massage, do you think is safe to dermarroll with 0.5mm more than once a week? Or it would be too much for the skin th massage and dermaroll few times a week?
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Tue May 20, 2014 6:51 am      Reply with quote
Pablita wrote:
lagomorph wrote:
Pablita wrote:
I am having a tattoo removed with skinila next week i have my last session. It left me a pink scar in one ankle, do you think dermarrolling te scar eill help, as the scar is created by needles and the product the put in the skin with the needles.

How long should i have to wait to start dermarollin th scar. Maybe one month?


Hmm, not sure about the time element. I have some laparoscopic surgery scars that I've used individual needles on and it definitely worked for those. Not sure what a tatoo removal scar looks like-mine were slightly raised scars.


I have read single needdles are muxh better for scars but i am afraid to use it, i bought one last year for little scar on my fotehead but have not been able to use it, each time i try i freak out and i am not able to out it on my skin.

My tattoo scar is kind of purple, not raised, same to the touch as normal skin but that ugly purple colour.
As well i am doing the Fe massage, do you think is safe to dermarroll with 0.5mm more than once a week? Or it would be too much for the skin th massage and dermaroll few times a week?


Hopefully someone else can give you a more informed answer than this but I just know it's not advised to needle/roll fresh scars. I'm not sure how long you need to wait. I know silicone sheeting can be used with fresh/new scars.

My advice is to read up on this before starting. I know the thread here can be overwhelming Smile , but you do want to be safe. (especially with sterilizing the rollers/stamps or needles)

some info on tattoo removal and scars:
http://www.realself.com/question/fear-severly-burned-laser-tattoo-removal
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Tue May 20, 2014 6:33 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks for the link, i am going to find out information about when to start dermarolling my scar, i got it one month ago so i guess i would have to wait a while
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Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:48 pm      Reply with quote
I have another question, i have been dermarolling every other day, the instruction that came with my 0,5mm roller was that you can roll everday.
My sister got a 0.5 mm roller today from another manufacturer and the instruction says to roll only every 3 weeks.
So i dont know which instructions are correct hers or mine, or if i am rolling too often.
Who often do you girls roll the 0.5mm?
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:28 pm      Reply with quote
This experienced MD has an interesting page on various treatments for aging skin (laser, microdermabrasion, chem peels and microneedling): http://jamesgreenmd.com/plastic-surgery-articles/skin-care-chemical-peel-microdermabrasion.php


His observation is this: "Even though it's not yet as popular, Collagen induction therapy trumps them all. Also called "Micro-Needling,""
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I went for a derm counsultation a few weeks back to get some advice for sagging and lines around the mouth. For around the mouth, they have me two options - laser and SkinPen. Said both would get similar results. Skinpen would take more treatments and take a bit longer, but was cheaper ($300 each, with a recommendation of 6 treatments). And less down time than the laser. While I've been doing th MyM myself, I've not really seen much of a result. I was thinking of doing one professional treatment to see if if made a difference.

It was very interesting to see how much they were pushing the micro needing over the laser.
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:53 pm      Reply with quote
Interesting, Shasta. Sorry, what is MyM? If DIY microneedling, can you give us the length and frequency that showed no results for you?
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Needl wrote:
Interesting, Shasta. Sorry, what is MyM? If DIY microneedling, can you give us the length and frequency that showed no results for you?


The MyM is a DermaPen knock-off. It's an electronic dermaroller that pulses in/out and you can dial the length of needles that you want.

I did six months of once monthly rolls with 0.5mm. I waited about 4 months. Then did another 5 treatments at 1.5mm every 6 weeks.

I would follow the treatments with either AnteAge serum or an oil mix with vit C, A and E.
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Shasta, that does sound frustrating. Exactly what results were you seeking?
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Needl wrote:
Shasta, that does sound frustrating. Exactly what results were you seeking?


Improvement of wrinkles around the mouth area. I saw some improvement around the eyes, but my bigger concern was around the mouth.
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OK, here's my theory: using a roller or stamp for deep lines or acne scars might be counterproductive. If your skin responds well, the surrounding skin might actually get thicker, with the deep lines not even getting the same needling. I've had good success with perioral lines using the thinnest of sewing needles. HOWEVER, Owndoc's Sarah Vaughn believes sewing needles should not be used, as they are too thick, and she is selling single needles with proper handles, so have a look at those. I only use rollers and stamps for whole areas I want to develop, eg slightly crepey or thinning skin. For specific lines, I use single needles.
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Owndoc suggested starting with a .75 mm regular dermaroller for melasma. May I ask which model does anyone recommend and can I use Obagi Clear or Blender right after for the melasma areas?

I've read through many parts of this thread but not so sure if dermarolling helps or hurt melasma.

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I have not started rolling bc I am afraid of damaging my face even further. I am using it for some minor depressed scarring. I have done some research on the web & have found conflicting answers. I have read owndoc's instructions & the forum & it wasn't helpful. These are the questions that I would like to know. I would greatly appreciate any answers to these questions Smile

1. How often to roll to allow collagen regeneration
(I have heard 5x a week for the first 3months to 1-2x a week & 1x every 3-4 weeks. I have heard it takes 4-6 weeks to build new collagen & 8-12 weeks on this forum)

2. The numbers of times to roll an area. I have seen the video on owndoc but in the description it says she wasn't doing it the right way ( not slightly tilting it)

3. How often to roll to maintain the results. Like, do you roll more initially & then once you see the results you just have to do it once every 4 weeks?
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