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Mon May 14, 2007 6:11 pm      Reply with quote
http://www.antifursociety.org/PayPal.html

Oh my goodness, the anti fur society is having a raffle to raise money to save cats in China who are being rescued from a meat market. For just $5 you can be entered into a raffle to win these exquisite 18 kt gold grey pearl earrings. I just entered the raffle--- if I win I will definitely wear these earrings with pride knowing that I also helped some kitties in need!

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Tue May 15, 2007 1:40 am      Reply with quote
This is TOTALLY pathetic liz, what are you trying to pull off here???? Another piece of fake fuzz????

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Tue May 15, 2007 7:38 am      Reply with quote
Scotslass, I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, but this organization is legit. They are non-profit, and they work hard to rescue cats from meat markets and fur markets in China. If anyone feels like that is uminportant work than feel free to pass this post right up, but my heart goes out to the cats suffering in China and I want to do whatever I can.

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Tue May 15, 2007 9:53 am      Reply with quote
If you scroll down there's another link for Kate's Caring Gifts-- buy something and a small percentage goes to some organization that helps cats. Listen, do whatever you want to feel like you're helping, but there's things you could do on a local level to helps animals in your area. I feel like buying things in the name of helping cats in a state I don't even live in is a bit... well, whatever. Buying things isn't going to save a life.
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Tue May 15, 2007 9:59 am      Reply with quote
Volunteer work is a very personal thing violetanne, so people need to do what they are comfortable with. My husband and I are both very active with volunteering in our local community, however, we like to support organizations that reach past our community as well. I'm of the mind that local or not, every little bit helps.

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Tue May 15, 2007 10:11 am      Reply with quote
Mods, would you be so kind as to delete this thread? I wasn't trying to offend anyone with it, I honestly thought that some members would be glad to read it. I'm having a bad day here and I honestly can't take any more hassling.

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Tue May 15, 2007 10:16 am      Reply with quote
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This is TOTALLY pathetic liz, what are you trying to pull off here???? Another piece of fake fuzz????


EXCUSE ME? Did I just read what I thought I read?

Your unnecessary rudeness: PATHETIC, m'dear!

Whose needs did you meet by saying such a thing to another member? If you don't care for her activities, fine. Keep it to yourself.

I AM NOT PLEASED! Mad

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Tue May 15, 2007 11:10 am      Reply with quote
I agree with Casper's Mum. If you're not interested in someone else's activities, keep it to yourself. There's no need to go around being rude or bullying other members.

Dear Liz,

I really appreciate all the little things you've done to help animals regardless of where they are. Some help, even little, is better than none. And if someone who doesn't see the need to help, I also don't see the need for them to put someone else down either.

Lynn

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Tue May 15, 2007 11:10 am      Reply with quote
Wow, I always looked to this board for friendly members and a place to post things JUST LIKE THIS. My views on animal rights are the same as Liz', but I still don't find the second post appropriate. Crying or Very sad

Nothing Liz has ever posted has been fake.

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Tue May 15, 2007 11:26 am      Reply with quote
Thanks for posting this Liz! And I agree the comments above are not at all appropriate. And to me, it doesn't matter where an animal lives, if there's something I can do to help then I will do my best!
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Tue May 15, 2007 11:27 am      Reply with quote
That's ok PhoebesMeow - today we are well on our way of ridding the forum of anyone who decides to take their anger out on anyone else here, or otherwise posts something inappropriate. This too shall pass and in a little while we'll all be happy again Smile

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Tue May 15, 2007 11:34 am      Reply with quote
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This is TOTALLY pathetic liz, what are you trying to pull off here???? Another piece of fake fuzz????


Are you serious? Liz is one of the kindest people I know and she has no agenda, just a desire to help--people and animals alike.

violetanne wrote:
If you scroll down there's another link for Kate's Caring Gifts-- buy something and a small percentage goes to some organization that helps cats. Listen, do whatever you want to feel like you're helping, but there's things you could do on a local level to helps animals in your area. I feel like buying things in the name of helping cats in a state I don't even live in is a bit... well, whatever. Buying things isn't going to save a life.


Geez! Get off her case! Its a raffle, just like people do to raise money all the time, it clearly states that (all) the money will go to help these cats, can you prove that it wont save a cat? I know that Liz does do stuff in her area to help animals, so what if she wants to help them in another country! Dont damn her for having a heart. If you dont wish to participate fine, just dont belittle what she is doing to help.

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Tue May 15, 2007 11:35 am      Reply with quote
Mabsy wrote:
That's ok PhoebesMeow - today we are well on our way of ridding the forum of anyone who decides to take their anger out on anyone else here, or otherwise posts something inappropriate. This too shall pass and in a little while we'll all be happy again Smile


Sorry Mabsy I didnt see your post! Feel free to delete my comment.

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Tue May 15, 2007 11:35 am      Reply with quote
I'm with PhoebesMeow as in I came to this forum because the members were so kind and helpful. It's a place to share your interests (which is mainly skincare:)), make friends and support each other. But it seems lately things have been somewhat unpleasant around here, which I find rather disappointing to be honest. There really is no need at all to be rude to other members.

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Tue May 15, 2007 11:36 am      Reply with quote
liz keep up your efforts to help the animals and to keep us aware of how we can help.

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Tue May 15, 2007 1:28 pm      Reply with quote
Wow - not quite sure what ScottsLass comments are all about. Shock Bit harsh and uncalled for I think! Maybe she just had a bad day? (Hopefully)
Anyway....Liz - thanks for posting and please don't stop letting us know how we can help - Personally I believe animals deserve our help where ever they are, if we know about it we can then choose whether or not to participate.

(((hugs)))

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Tue May 15, 2007 1:53 pm      Reply with quote
Crying or Very sad
Liz -- I'm really sorry you've had to take a very rude one-two punch when all you're trying to do is support a cause you believe in.

Pretty incredible...and not in a good way.

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Tue May 15, 2007 2:47 pm      Reply with quote
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ScotsLass wrote:
This is TOTALLY pathetic liz, what are you trying to pull off here???? Another piece of fake fuzz????


EXCUSE ME? Did I just read what I thought I read?

Your unnecessary rudeness: PATHETIC, m'dear!

Whose needs did you meet by saying such a thing to another member? If you don't care for her activities, fine. Keep it to yourself.

I AM NOT PLEASED! Mad


While I agree with the sentiments, I'm curious why this isn't the standard response to posts of this type? Is it selective? I am asking pragmatically.

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Scotslass, I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, but this organization is legit. They are non-profit, and they work hard to rescue cats from meat markets and fur markets in China. If anyone feels like that is uminportant work than feel free to pass this post right up, but my heart goes out to the cats suffering in China and I want to do whatever I can.

Hi Liz - I owe you a giant apology for my earlier post. I clearly did not articulate myself properly and for that I am truly, truly sorry Crying or Very sad. I see that this is a legitimate cause and my greatest wish is that it succeeds. Again, I am so very sorry....

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Tue May 15, 2007 3:07 pm      Reply with quote
Some people here are freaking ridiculous!
Liz is a compassionate, beautiful soul. She has a huge heart, is helpful to others and has NEVER said anything unkind about anyone on these boards.
If you aren't interested in helping out these animals...Fine, Great, Good for you. Keep it to yourself. This is the "Lounge" section of EDS not the "sit around and treat others like crap" area.
I have basically left this forum for this very reason. Being a bully and treating others like dirt is not acceptable. If you for some reason believe it is than you need to spend more time worrying about your inner beauty than your make-up and skincare needs. I can almost guarantee in real life your foul attitude uglies up any outer beauty you may possess.
Liz - I am sending you extra well wishes.
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Tue May 15, 2007 4:08 pm      Reply with quote
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If you scroll down there's another link for Kate's Caring Gifts-- buy something and a small percentage goes to some organization that helps cats. Listen, do whatever you want to feel like you're helping, but there's things you could do on a local level to helps animals in your area. I feel like buying things in the name of helping cats in a state I don't even live in is a bit... well, whatever. Buying things isn't going to save a life.


I take personal offense to this. So what, we just exclude what's going on in the world because we don't live in a hundred mile radius? Wow, what a sad mentality to live with.

I am a major supporter of International Aid for Korean Animals, a non profit organization that gets dogs and cats off the street and out of the meat market and is dedicated to educating the Korean and international public so that other animals do not have to go through a similar, inhumane fate.

Just because it happens in "another state" doesn't make it any less real. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.

If you say "buying things won't help" to preach against Liz's efforts, then I can surely respond in kind and say "being oblivious to global need" doesn't help either. I didn't know that charity had to be selective...

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Tue May 15, 2007 5:50 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you Liz, for posting this. I'm going to China soon, and I'm terrified of seeing anything like this. But at least I can make a donation and help them a tiny bit.
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Tue May 15, 2007 6:36 pm      Reply with quote
Yes, thanks for posting about this Liz. Very Happy It's nice to know that there are compassionate people in this world that truly care for the welfare of our furry friends. Anyone could tell you have a huge heart.
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Tue May 15, 2007 6:58 pm      Reply with quote
Liz,
The world needs more people like you--from one animal lover to another.
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While I agree with the sentiments, I'm curious why this isn't the standard response to posts of this type? Is it selective? I am asking pragmatically.


Because we try to be diplomatic and handle things in the background via PMs and warnings, as other people should, not on a public forum. Every so often, when members go nuts at each other, too much crap behavior tends to lower our diplomacy levels a little because it's just too hard to handle so many reports and so many complaints on top of doing our regular jobs.

This particular situation has been handled and I think it might be helpful to just go back to the main topic of this thread instead and put the focus back on the animals, where it should be.

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