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Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:01 am      Reply with quote
Before you start giving me psyhic`s phone numbers, I will explain: I just bought a physical Z-cote sunscreen.Thats right, the formula that is supposedly "transparent". Well...it is not.When I went out to the shops, half the people were staring and the other half were avoiding me and I found out why when my boyfriend said: Hello, Grim Death !Strangest thing : when I entered a darkened room and looked in the mirror, the white cast effect was more obvious. The criminal: Obagi C Sunguard SPF30 killed even my already very pale complexion.So even though I hate chemical sunscreens, I`d rather be greasy than...undead?

Am I the only person that had the above experience?And what does a sunscreen have to have to deserve the name? Personally I am looking for ,in order of importance, :

1.transparent texture

2.best UVA protection (Can only be achieved with Zinc Oxide,Z-cote(a form of Zinc Oxide),Titanium Oxide or STABILISED avobenzone (also called Parsol).)

3.best UVB protection

1 & 2 seem to exclude one another in physical sunscreens, so only Avobenzone,chemical sunblock, remains.This ingredient however is WORTHLESS if not stabilised with for example Octocrylene(another chemical).
Phew!
Chemistry was never my favourite subject,I just dont want to be wrinkly when Im 55 - a dream I think most of you share.But looking dead ,even if wrinkle free,is not an option.

I have pale combination skin, from Sunscreens I have also tried and have doubts about :
-Decleor Ecran Haute Protection SPF 20 - found it very shiny and greasy-LOOKing even though it doesnt FEEL greasy,it balls under make-up;

-Dermalogica Solar Defense Booster- this one had good texture , but is avobenzone stabilised
here (and with what?)or does it just dissolve on the skin within 30 min??I have my doubts.

Tried mixing Obagi with L`oreal Cashmere foundation - didnt work -still very white look.

Any help/comment very much appreciated!

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...or I might start haunting you.

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Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:10 pm      Reply with quote
On the makeupalley board, the big winners for stable suncreens seem to be the Shiseido spf 55 and the Anthelios 30. If you go over there and do a search you will get more info than you probably ever wanted to know but it's accurate and very informative. The Anthelios is popular but I can't remember which one - there's a matte version and then another one....I think PeterThomasRoth also has a chemical-free spf 30 that is fairly lightweight that has gotten good reviews. It has the ziox and the tio2 in it but micronized so more transparent....
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Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:04 pm      Reply with quote
You beat me to it...now I'll just have to second the recommendation. I love shiseido sunscreens. I use their super smooth spf 33 everyday and it doesn't make me look like a ghost. It is very lotion-like and has a matte finish.

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Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:19 pm      Reply with quote
thank you so much for replying,betterat40 and scootercat. I was feeling a bit desperate but it is passing now. I mean, hey,talk about discovering a gap in the market and room for improvement on existing products.Cosmetics companies pay for the research, well, they can have tons of mine for free Smile
I will try shiseido next for the texture or PTR as I so much want something breathable and non chemical. Thank you !

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Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:17 pm      Reply with quote
I like MD Formulations total protector (spf 30). This has a physical sunscreen, goes on well and is not greasy(on my skin at least). I have used it under make-up without problems, but it is important to use a thin layer. If you use to much it tend to flake. I think it is available with light colour, but i use the uncoloured one.
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Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:34 pm      Reply with quote
Oh, I LOVE shiseido sunscreens too!! They are wonderful and really don't feel like sunscreens at all.

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Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:25 am      Reply with quote
I have spent a long time perfecting a 'living dead look' and personally don't see what your problem is! That said if the advice given so far comes to nothing, there is a huge sticky on handbag with loads of info and if you still can't find what you want, then register and PM chillipaddi, (who must have a chemistry after all her research into suncreams) and ask her or post on the thread. Either way she is very friendly and helpful.

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sorry a zombie ate my brain and I forgot the link Neutral

http://forums.handbag.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=151113

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