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nazlee
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Joined: 26 Jul 2004
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Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:53 am  |
When first i read about sk2, i was so exited to try on because of all the benefits they promise.Lucky me i didn't buy the full set instead i just bought the trial/sample kit which is much more cheaper and safer for a first timer like me.First few days,nothing miracle happen yet. But then i can see different. Pimple/acne/whitehead whatever u wanna call it.it really dissapointed.nothing miracle about sk2 by the way. they declare the essence as a 'miracle water' which content yeast named pitera. i was impressed in the early. but then i think again, it is an alcohol.that's why they didnt pun any of the ingredient instead just said 90% pitera.the treatment set is too much alcohol i think.my skin was very dry after using the set.it doesnt mosturize at all.
For the sekkisei, i think so far still ok.i fell very fresh after using it.and it's more gentle on the skin.
p/s : dont buy sk2.  |
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Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:29 am |
In your title, you mentioned Sekkisei. What products do you recommend from this line, and what is so great about it? I ask, because I have easy access to this line. But I have heard, in general, that the Japanese lines are weak in terms of containing antioxidants. Not being able to read the labels, I have no idea it this is true!
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Mabsy
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Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:33 am |
Nazlee,
Are you referring to SKII Facial Treatment Essence vs Kose Sekkisei Medicated Lotion?
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nazlee
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Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:58 am |
Basically, i think kose sekkisei range emulsion,lotion)are much better than sk2 treatment range(facial treatment cleanser,clear lotion,essence).Here i try comparing in a basic daily care(cleanser,toner,mosturizer).
Even after reading so many reviews about sekkisei and sk2, sekkisei still better.mostly fit to various skin type.as i remembered, i read somewhere saying that sk2 targeted to 35 yrs and above.but im not sure about that. |
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nazlee
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Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:12 am |
yeah,there are many japanese lines of facial care product in the market.even kose itself has many brands.for basic daily care, i recommend the seikisho black soap(cleanser),seikisei lotion and seikisei emulsion.this three basic range are good.
before this my skin is very oily and yet can be very dry easily (combination skin).and also very sensitive.easily breakout if the product doesnt suit me.but sekkisei is different.it's gentle.it takes a little time to see the difference.
about the ingredient details, i dont know much about it.im not an expert.i think ingredient base on herbal is good enough. |
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exquisite
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Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:28 pm |
Recently, I've been researching products that "whiten" or lighten your skin - I have very dark knees and it's very unappealing.
Well anyway, I came across Kose Sekkisei and SK-II. Both are sold in high end department stores in the US (Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue, respectively). I've been reading a lot about both and SK-II seemed VERY impressive, especially with their "pitera". So I obviously wanted to try it out but now I'm back on the fence of whether or not I should.
I stumbled upon this place while googling both these products. Well, anyway, has anyone else tried anything from either Kose or SK-II? I'd like to try both but they're SO expensive that it'll be such a waste of money if it ends up not doing much for me.
Colleen you said you had easy access to Kose products...would it be possible if you could get me a few trial products and send them to me? I would obviously repay you the costs. |
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Tue May 08, 2007 9:37 am |
I have used SK2 products(lotion,essence,sunscreen..).The fragrance is not good but not oily and mat.
But after using a few days,my face was covered with whitehead.
I heard some other people experienced like this.
Maybe "pitera" is not suitable for all skin type.
Before buying SK2,must use samples. |
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Tue May 08, 2007 4:41 pm |
From my own experience with SK2 and Kose Sekkisei plus feedback from other people in forums:
SK2 is better for mature skins. If you're early 20s and under, there is higher chance of acne breakouts on this product. I have oily/combo skin. I find using the essence once a day rather than twice a day is better for my skin, less likely to aggravate pimples. It improves hydration and gives some glow to the skin. You have to use it for some months to see its effects because it works on improving the skin's monthly turnover cycle, so results will not be so good in less than a month. Remember even Retinol products initially cause skin peeling before they improve your skin.
Kose Sekkisei lotion contains alcohol, so it's not so suitable for dry skins unless you use with their other product Moisture Skin Repair. The combination of the two is good. The texture is nice and light and the alcohol gives a cooling effect. It's more suitable for acne-prone and oily skin. Doesn't do much for hydration on its own, that's why I recommend using with Moisture Skin Repair. But it has some whitening effect which SK2 essence does not. |
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teho1821
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Tue May 08, 2007 4:55 pm |
| very interested with these two brands, would love to hear about your guys review |
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Tue May 08, 2007 9:31 pm |
| I recommend Sekkisei whitening toner. The effect is very obvious. It has a slight exfoliating effect. You will feel a little bit instant bright after using. However, it won't last long if you stop using it. |
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Wed May 09, 2007 2:00 am |
the key ingredient in SK2 products is an enzyme called pitera.
Maybe it is too strong or sth, but all but 1 of my gfs who tried SK2 products have bad reactions to it. Rashes, bumps and redness, etc etc etc.
Enzyme, (i donno if it is true to all types of enzyme contained in skincare products), work by eating away your outermost layer of dermis, revealing ur the next layer of new skin, which is much finer, fairer, and babysoft.
But the idea of frequent use of enzyme, whatever type, bothers me a great deal. What if my skin is not "regenerating" fast enough to compensate the outer layer peeled off ? will that mean i am "thinning" my skin to an unhealthy state ? what if the newer skin "revealed" is too tender and cannot take any skincare products on ?
I may, again, be overrating and overburdening with my hypothesis,  but this is the very reason y i dare NOT try SK2, coz they say their pitera is a strong enzyme. |
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Wed May 09, 2007 2:03 am |
| i mean overREACTing, not overrating :P |
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Wed May 09, 2007 2:15 am |
| It is heard that long term usage of SKII or using the complete line of SKII is not good to skin |
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Wed May 09, 2007 2:30 am |
| pigpig wrote: |
| It is heard that long term usage of SKII or using the complete line of SKII is not good to skin |
i also heard that!  |
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Wed May 09, 2007 5:23 am |
| I have been using SK11 for about 6 months now, and my skin is loving it. I do alternate with other products though as I don't think using the same line all the time is good. One thing I will say is that you must be careful if you buy off e-bay, as there are a lot of fake SK11 products on there, and who knows what they contain! |
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Wed May 09, 2007 5:39 am |
| sk2 is very good product including sensitive skin but kose is fully of alchol and herbel extract. it suit for oily skin and not for sensitive skin. |
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Wed May 09, 2007 5:39 am |
| sk2 is very good product including sensitive skin but kose is fully of alchol and herbel extract. it suit for oily skin and not for sensitive skin. |
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Wed May 09, 2007 6:05 am |
| The special ingredient in SK2 is called Pitera. It is not an enzyme. It is yeast extract. It is true some people do have reactions to SK2, but it is mostly the younger ones who are still having active acne. Mature ladies have less problems with their products. Some lucky people have beautiful glowing skin on it, I went to buy some of the products for my mum and the salesgirl's skin was incredible, very fair and translucent. The miracle doesn't happen overnight or even a few days for this product. You only really realize it when people you haven't seen for months comment on how your skin has improved. |
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Sun May 20, 2007 7:03 pm |
| i dont think SK2 is suitable for younger skins, i'm not sure about sensitive. There were reactions reported for those who tried it. |
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Sun May 20, 2007 8:34 pm |
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| I recommend Sekkisei whitening toner. The effect is very obvious. It has a slight exfoliating effect. You will feel a little bit instant bright after using. However, it won't last long if you stop using it. |
i will feel horrible if the skincare products effect immediately! do you think so? |
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Thu May 31, 2007 1:35 am |
I don't like SKII neither.
I tried their treatment essence but found it irritating.
There is nothing special for their mask. Olay is much cheaper with similar result. |
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Thu May 31, 2007 8:31 am |
| I know many people like both, maybe they're both effective to certain persons, but there're also some words about their unsafety, so I'd rather believe in them. Anyway, there're more brands other than these two, even some japanese brands, like shiseido or kanebo, which have much fewer unsafe words. |
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Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:27 pm |
I used to only use japanese brands and tried a couple of the sekkisei products and liked them both. they make an awesome peel off mask, it's black and u can see all the nasty gunk in it and their moisturizer was actually very good--it had quite a nice slip to it, but i suspected it had a lot of unnatural ingredients in it (of course, i can't read anything on the packaging since it was sent from hong kong).
anyhow, i have never tried skII but will probably in the future some time.
i usually don't find any japanese skin care products to be horrible though. |
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